CES 07: 360 hits 10.4 million, IPTV coming

I think out of this whole Sony Micro$oft war the best compromise would be playing 360 on a Sony H.D TV...

everyone said that the ps3 would own this gen, but ms showes that with a little creative thinking, they still got a shot at making the next great console. BTW i own all three consoles and i know wii will probably win this gen.

microsoft is really going far with there xbox i love having my pc to connect with there xbox now this!!! i hope they can put windows live mail and messenger that would be a killer

I already have tivo, but this is still pretty cool

x505 Got plenty of money, thats not the issue.. on the flip side why waste you hard-earned money buying all three? they all have their downfalls, and even all together they are still not the "perfect system". NWO my point in the disney comment was that Jobs is a pretty big share holder in disney, and he has somewhat of a say in matters like these. (thought most everyone knew that... even if they despised apple).

This is awesome news!! My 360 being a DVR? Cool. I'm sorry and I am speaking from my OWN opinion, but the wii isnt all that great. I have all 3 next gen systems and my wii see's the least action. The controller is cool and all, but the game library sux. And shooting games are next to impossible to master. Again this is my OWN opinion and I truthfully think the wii will fail in a few years. Nothing is stopping Microsoft as of right now and the ps3 still has some improving to do before I call it my next gen champion. Dont get me wrong, but I usually find myself playing only retro games on the wii. Nothing but Zelda catches my eye and their line up in the future isn't that great. I dunno, we'll see what happens, but really, lets stop knocking Microsoft for what they are doing and lets see how it turns out, you never know. Plus I paid over $1000 for my PS3 after all parts and necessities were said and done. I don't need the HD DVD drive from Microsoft so that does not add up in my 360 collection. Why would I buy that when I have a blu ray on my ps3. Unless games start playing on the HD drive. But until then, I am perfectly content with my maybe $600 purchase for my 360 and a few games and live. At least I dont have to change the controller after a year like my ps3. And at least they provided a headset and component cables right out the box. I had to buy all things seperately for my ps3. No compoent cables on a High Def system? Whats the story with that? Instead I had to spend $100 on a Monster HDMI cable. So really they all add up, lets stop knocking on Microsoft for what they are doing.

trd_matrix000 wrote: "doesn't make any sense to me... out of the box the 360 is not a good value at all, then they want you to buy 3 add ons (haha wireless dongle.. go figure) to make it like a ps3. All together it is more than 900 to get a white ps3 and fuel the richest man in the world??? Why? Furthermore all those add-ons just look dumb spread out everywhere...why not just buy a seperate HD-DVD player? and most people (that want it) already have DVR through their cable company. I am not a PS3 fanboy by far, but it would make more sense to pick one up rather than a 360... (if it would work) nah.. I'll use my savings from the wii and buy an iPhone. " --- Uh, instead of worrying about which one to get, how 'bout getting a part time job or someting to make some cash. It's the people low on dinero that seem to pose as the most biased. Seriously, if you could get all three I'm sure you wouldn't be crying about this stuff.

"trd_matrix000 sorry but for once apple did beat ms with the downloading. They are years ahead of them and there is no way for M$ to have Disney and its subsidiaries (MGM, ABC, ETC.) Jobs wouldn't let that happen... M$ is screwed on that deal." Dude , OBVIOUSLY by your icon I can see that you are an Apple fanatic (snicker) but even YOU have to see that between Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, Jobs has no shot. You really think Disney doesn't like to make money? Apple might not, but Disney loves cash. Plus who the hell has ever heard of Apple TV? Sounds like a show on the Food Network.

Here is my solution for the best gaming possible. 1. Buy a wii and play it with your friends when they come over. To me, this thing is a serious party machine. Besides that, I got beaten at a game by my 75 y/o dad. First time in 20 years. Serious, that is AWESOME!!!! He wouldn't have a chance in hell of trying that on a PS3 or a 360 but with my wii it was easy to catch on, no complicated buttons and sticks, and we had a lot of fun, and he beat me. 2. Buy a 360 to play online with you friends. Forget the blue ray, forget the HD DVD, forget IP TV, and especially forget downloading movies ( takes forever!!! ). I have cable for all the TV I want to watch and I don't need PPV on my video game system either. I also don't need a TIVO in my Xbox stealing my small amount of space. I actually bought my unit to play games. I only chose the 360 because I don't want to have to wait for good titles to come along in the future and I enjoy the ones they have now. The PS3 may be better in the future but I really don't care because I am happy now. P.S. The Zune Sucks!

sorry but for once apple did beat ms with the downloading. They are years ahead of them and there is no way for M$ to have Disney and its subsidiaries (MGM, ABC, ETC.) Jobs wouldn't let that happen... M$ is screwed on that deal.

"trd_matrix000 if i were a fanboy i would have the ps3.. personally i can't stand the 360 or the ps3.. it would just make more sense to get it all in one package if it was really necessary. BTW didn't apple already do all this with appleTV?" Yeah, but MS would like to do it SUCCESSFULLY.

ricsuave "Why is it that this statement is always accompanied by sony fanboy drivel?" if i were a fanboy i would have the ps3.. personally i can't stand the 360 or the ps3.. it would just make more sense to get it all in one package if it was really necessary. BTW didn't apple already do all this with appleTV?

guys! can any body tell me what is the maximum dvd disk size on the xbox 360? i mean how much can an xbox 360 dvd hold? is it the normal standerd 4.7GB?

"trd_matrix000 I am not a PS3 fanboy by far, " Why is it that this statement is always accompanied by sony fanboy drivel?

doesn't make any sense to me... out of the box the 360 is not a good value at all, then they want you to buy 3 add ons (haha wireless dongle.. go figure) to make it like a ps3. All together it is more than 900 to get a white ps3 and fuel the richest man in the world??? Why? Furthermore all those add-ons just look dumb spread out everywhere...why not just buy a seperate HD-DVD player? and most people (that want it) already have DVR through their cable company. I am not a PS3 fanboy by far, but it would make more sense to pick one up rather than a 360... (if it would work) nah.. I'll use my savings from the wii and buy an iPhone. :P

sony was LUCKY to get 1 mill in one month, that was only because all the hype... but they now want 6 million by march, the console itself is already dead, AND microsoft has killer features and games up it's sleeve. goodbye sony, i will not miss you

I bought the game when it first came out,after playing through it when it was still in its youth(which it still kinda is),I knew it was a guaranteed success,and it's not just Halo like,it's better than Halo 2.But,as we all no,Halo just keeps getting better and better,we're gonna go crazy over Halo 3:)At the moment,there's nothing better than Gears of War,you can never call it an amateur,comparing it to Halo,it made 2.7 million and climbing.They're both great games and their on their own paths.

"Halo like?" What Qualifies that? It better be based on success and popularity. Halo was just a popular game, not some amazingly new ground breaking game.

how is ps3 gonna compete wait this as soon as sony relase there console the xbox has built a amzing list of extra features thats wernt there last december all i can say id MICROSFT FOREVER!!!!!!!!

O snap! I can just see their leading up to make some new huge capacity Hard drive to record more stuff so they make even more cash!

Actually, assassinX01, if you run out of room on your 12 gig hd all you need to do is buy an external hd and connect it to the 360 via USB and you have yourself more space :D Funny how technology works...............

lol. I was actually looking for a price drop report in this article. ^_^" oh well. gonna have to wait longer then.

The Xbox 360 is beating the PS3? Big surprise.

pff. There are only 12 available Gigs on the 360 hard drive. After games, movies, musics, pictures, and downloading things, how the hell will there be any room left to record T.V? Good idea (even if rote and unoriginal), but once again, Microsoft, you've limited yourself by using outdated technology on something you have such good plans for.

Then there's this guy: Eagles5 "internetmovies makes a good point. How can you Xbox fan boys sit there an judge a systems outcome six weeks into launch? Because November 2005 I remember stories about how itâ??s just Xbox 1.5 the games look last gen. Not a great launch lineup. Freezing, disc scratching, bricking systems. An all PS3 launch came about was 200 of the 8000 ps2 games would not play but were fixed with an update. Also compare 360 launch to the ps3 launch the ps3 launch sold more consoles in the same time period" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ;) mmmm very interesting point yes, but tell me something what does any of this have to do with 360 selling 10.4 million or IPTV?

internetmovies "Will all this fan-boyism EVER Stop....for God sakes it's so ridiculous obviously no one in here is a true gamer." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations! You get the award for TRUE GAMER OF THE YEAR... NOT!! I think its very amusing that this guy starts off dissing fan boys and then goes of on a rant about how the " 360 SUX" and ... "the PS3 won't fail, it has too many solid titles that will be coming out in the next 2 years to amaze people" That is a direct quote people. now tell me who's the fanboy who. Please

Specter03 "stuff like this really really makes me wish that some crackhead didnt steal my xbox360," -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think cherrytwister stole your 360. I'm still waiting for him to send me that crack :D

With regards to TheeVindicator's skeptics... I just got my 360 for christmas and did have some of the freezing and disk scratching problems that people have talked about. I called microsoft phone support and frankly, they're non-english speaking, scripted employees did nothing for me...then I went to GameStop. From them i found out that keeping the system vertical causes is to shake back and forth just enough to scratch disks and that this can cause the system to freeze up sometimes go as far as to break completely. I got home and put my system horizontal and in a nice cool area and haven't had any of the problems since. Being a long-time Sony fanboy and basically a hater of the original XBOX, I have to say that Microsoft did a lot of things right with the 360 and its definately worth buying...just take extra-good care of it when you do.

if u think about it they will upgrade hardrives but the thing about is xboxlive isnt just a gaming service u can also domnload content i think it cool what they are doing and if u have windows vista its going to play even smoother microsoft is smart

I never comment ,,,but from the picture and its note (The faithful wait for Gates to take the stage at CES) I just cant stop laghing , it is a great joke and the wrter has brileant sense of humar.

I never comment ,,,but from the picture and its note (The faithful wait for Gates to take the stage at CES) I just cant stop laghing , it is a great joke and the wrter has brileant sense of humar.

My buddys 360 just broke last week (he didn't break it, it died) He wanted to buy my Wii off me My other buddys 360 carved craters into his disks As much as I would like to have a 360 these things make me skeptical. My ps2, super nintendo, n64, xbox, ps1, gameboy..... pretty much every system i have ever had still works. even the virtual boy works so why cant these brand new 360s stay alive

Next couple of years are going to be interesting: Apple with AppleTV, MS with XBox360/IPTV, Cisco with it's Linksys market hyping, cable companies pushing their solution....

Eagles5 so what you want to call fanboy/ fangirls an epicdemic omg some likes something you don't big whoop. besides that i agree with you but i believe there there coming out with a 120 GB hard drive....wonder how much thats going to cost....idk don't know if you've played both systems on Cod3 and Madden 07 on both consoles but man i'll tell you something First Person don't work out that well on the PS3 and i prefefer the wii over the both the Ps3 and the Xbox 360 honeslty. and i own a ipod and a Zune both 30 Gb and i l ike the Zune way better i've found myself using it more anyway. Ps3 is better in 3rd person games like you know over the top view. Well see how this turns out obvoisly

Gotta love the Canadian economy , it makes the 20GB PS3 $50 more than the premium 360. THAT is a MUCH better deal that the $100 difference for americans and this combined with the exchange rate means the US suffers even more! In Canada it makes the 360 more expensive and the PS3 cheaper when directly compared to the US prices.

internetmovies makes a good point. How can you Xbox fan boys sit there an judge a systems outcome six weeks into launch? Because November 2005 I remember stories about how it?s just Xbox 1.5 the games look last gen. Not a great launch lineup. Freezing, disc scratching, bricking systems. An all PS3 launch came about was 200 of the 8000 ps2 games would not play but were fixed with an update. Also compare 360 launch to the ps3 launch the ps3 launch sold more consoles in the same time period. You Xbox fan boys ignore true facts you take bits and pieces of the truth and make it seem like your system is god in the shape of a console. Also you will not win a console war with just Europe and American You need Japan if you want to win on a World wide basis. You might say that oh its only 21 percent of the World console market, but if you take account in what the Nintendo wii and what the playstation 3 (soon) are doing that 21 percent may mean first, second, or even third place on a worldwide basis. I say that because EVERY single High profile Xbox 360 game except for lost oddeysy (not even that great), Blue dragon and fable are FPS. How will Xbox 360 win with games geared towards the American market? Halo can?t even sell in Japan and not as good as in Europe as it dose in America. See you fans miss the obvious that M$ only cares about the USA and I can see its taken steps to broaden its diversity of games but its not going such a great job when you look at what Nintendo and Sony are doing with their diversity of games.

How can hte Xbox 360 have a IPTV with only a 20 gig HDD? Tehy are thinkin way to ahead ATLEAST annouce plays for a larger harddrive first before annocing IPTV.

Internetmovies made a good post Also I have the 360 and PS3 and the fanboys are crazy. They are the first ones to jump on Sony when thety stated awhile back that the PS3 will becom a DVR and be able to do location free to the PSP. They complain that SONY just needs to stop with the extras and make games. Yet when its turned around and 360 does downloadable movies an announce the 360 will be a recorder - they praise that. Strange. I havn't Dnld any movies or TV shows from my 360 yet - seems like it takes to long- plus I have on demand thru cable. BUT if the tech get faster and they have more I am not against it at all.

Actually, Spartan1017, I have a pc, gamecube, ps2 and 360 so am I a fanboy of everything??? I see fanboy and I think of someone that praises a company or what have you and buys their product regardless of it's quality and just because of the name. I realize that just because a company has put out a good product before doesn't mean they will continue to do so. I wonder though why the word "Halo" is always used to reference a good game. There were games before Halo that are better than it, such as the original Half Life. No I'm not a HL or Vavle fanboy, I didn't really care for Half Life 2. Halo wasn't really a "revolutionary" game. The AI, which was so hyped up, had been done before in games such a Turok 2 (enemies take cover, run away when they realize they are going to get their asses kicked) so why is it praised so much??? Seriously. I realize people think "it's just fun" but so are other countless other games such as Deus Ex (which was released BEFORE Halo). Oh yea, you forgot Linux fanboy :P

i agree. we're all f'boys(fanboys) here. if you're here to praise msoft, you're a msoft fanboy. if you're here to rebuke them, you're a apple, sony, or nintendo fanboy. so just get over it and accept it.

Everytime I read these comments.. no matter what, I see the word "Fanboy" and everytime I see it, I cringe! Everysingle one of us are "Fanboys" in a way. So what is anyone's point? It is the single most, overused, 10 year old's word used on this entire site. I propose a ban on the word..."F-boy" I can't even type it anymore! There, I said it, you may now commence using the F-word again. Hopefully not though! :)

10.4 million in 37 countries with the majority of the buyers being new to the console. I don't believe that for one second. Most if not all of those 10.4 million people own the xbox.

It's disappointing that they didn't announce the HDMI-360, and that it turned out to be just a prototype...but at least IPTV is good news.

First off FANBOYS on all consoles suck on you know what!!!!! I own all three but i personally like the 360 more. Mostly because of the games appeal to me more and the controller fits nicely inside my hand. Yea thats the only reason. But its not a good enough reason to only own one because of some stupid loyalty to a video game company. Ok now back to the subject at hand. Tthe fact that the 360 is going to have a tivo type of function is great. I'll be using that a lot. Back when PS2 and XBOX were out and no 360 and when a game was multi platform i use to but the XBOX version because it looked better and XBL was with it. But now that the PS# is out and the graphics will be more alike it will come down to how the game plays and if i wanna get down online. When PSN gets to be big like the XBL then i'll be swaded more often but not now. I do have a tag on PSN but im almost never on it cause no one i know is playing on a PS3............yet.

Will all this fan-boyism EVER Stop....for God sakes it's so ridiculous obviously no one in here is a true gamer. And just to let all you xbox-fanboys who jumped on the PS3 fanboy in here ya'll need to go back and read the posts you guys jump on the INSTANT it's posted and laugh in Sony owners faces and blah blah blah...to be honest I own a 360 right now and I plan on getting a PS3 in march (bought the 360 for my neices more than anything) but ya i've had fun with it but currently back to playing PC games...but anyways the PS3 just came out it will improve...do we need to go back to the crappy 360 launch as well???...tell me when the 360 started getting recognized...ya that's right it took a while and it's still growing it still hasn't reached it's peak...and the PS3 has JUST begun and the hike up the mountain is just beginning...the PS3 won't fail, it has too many solid titles that will be coming out in the next 2 years to amaze people and so will the 360....dont be suprised to see a God of War 3 coming to the ps3 its most likely in the works already....Gran Turismo HD is simply amazing the gameplay is totally different can't wait to see a full thought out game of the GT series...MGS....Final Fantasy...SCE Sports titles to tell ya the truth are getting a hell of a lot better and don't be suprised if you all are **** in 2 years that all we 360 owners are getting is EA Sport titles when Sony is stepping up and making some great sports titles...Ridge Racer is back...F1 series is back...WarHawk or whatever we'll have to see how some new titles do i'm sure some will bomb others will succeed into a new greatness exclusive for Sony....All I know is all systems have great stuff going for them the 360 has been out for a year+ and has a head-start this is the only difference i'm seeing I actually think Sony's launch went smoother than the 360 they promised the 1 million shipped units and delivered...they had a few good launch titles and ports...stuff to keep us entertained till the spring summer titles start coming as well as other games coming out all in 2007.... PS3 online is just starting...there's a lot of new things Sony is doing that they haven't done in the past which is good and right now it's still in beta form almost they will work the tweaks out and it will succeed...just like the 360 did just took a little time...So I plan on enjoying both systems and can't wait till March/April to get my own PS3 and play me some MLB The Show 07' haha cause 2ksports baseball sucks haha...just wish Sony would deliver with a football game.

gimmie a 360 and gears of war plz >:

Gears doesn't deserve to get compared to a crappy game like Halo... more specifically Halo 2.

stuff like this really really makes me wish that some crackhead didnt steal my xbox360, games, and accessories... and it makes me even more upset knowing i will eventually drop more money once the system drops in price... BUT things are looking great and I am looking forward to being a proud 360 owner once again!!!

"Sainraja, you obviously read the above statement wrong. Here it is again. It says SOLD 10.4 Million. M$ actually SHIPPED 10 million units back on the first week of November. So, no they are not sitting at retailers. Sold means, sold from retailer to customer. According to Bach, Microsoft sold a total of 10.4 million consoles through the most recent holiday season in 37 countries, with the majority of customers being new to the Xbox platform." Peter Moore said they sold the 10.4 to retailers. Ofcourse, I don't mean all 10.4 are sitting on store shelves but the majority of them are. Microsoft sold them, not to customers. Moore himself said so. I did not read the statement wrong. I quoted it....the link was provided. Read it yourself.

I'm really impressed with the sales of Gears of Wars. There was hype, by it didn't receive the crazy mass marketing that Halo 2 got, and it still sold 2.7 million copies. Congrats, Epic!