@gamer620 You're being quite defensive yourself, but fair enough. You just sounded very much like a cod fanboy and we all know they exist in extremely large numbers. I just assumed... Sorry!
Halo studio not crafting additional add-on content for latest sci-fi shooter; Defiant Map Pack out next Tuesday.
When Bungie signed a 10-year publishing deal with Activision last year, the writing was on the wall that the Halo studio would soon depart from the famed franchise. Now it's a done deal.
According to Bungie's latest Weekly Update, the Washington state video game studio will not create any more new map packs for Halo: Reach.
"We are not building map packs for Halo: Reach, and we're not working on any engine modifications, with code pressed tightly to metal," reads the statement.
That said, Bungie plans to continue to support Halo: Reach until Microsoft takes total control of the franchise. That continued support will come in the way of "playlist additions and upgrades," the addition of community-made maps to the multiplayer hopper, and undefined community contests.
Halo: Reach fans eager for more add-on content can download the $10 Defiant Map Pack next week on Xbox Live. The content was codeveloped by Certain Affinity, a studio also responsible for Call of Duty: Black Ops and Left 4 Dead downloadable content.
bungie are sell outs. ms gave them their freedom and they cant make one single game without signing a deal with activsion lol.
The sooner 343 completely takes over the running of Halo Reach the better. MS loves Halo and will continue to support it even if Bungie are done with it.
@NickyWithATicky I am no CoD fanboy, nor am I a Halo fanboy, I get enjoyment out of both. My argument was in response to "Call of Duty, while played a lot, is controversial for being the same game over and over. For not changing at all. " And when i brought up the fact that the CoD franchise HAS actually brought changes year after year, they got defensive and all of a sudden im a fanboy. Its amazing.
@gamer620 @AncientDozer This has got ridiculous. You both make very good points and you'll never agree because some people are cod fanboys and others are halo fanboys. [personally I'm the latter ;) ] If you want actioned packed campaign, progressive multiplayer and crazy zombie killing then you want black ops. If you want an emotional story, ever-changing multi-player and some of the best music the gaming world has ever heard (bar brutal legends, of course) then you want halo. They're just too different to compare...
because the definition of Cash Cow is 6 games in 10 years. herp derp. Isn't CoD going on its 5th game in 5 years now?
Dont worry guys Halo is too fat a cash cow for both ms and Bungie to keep their hands of, somewhere somehow Bungie will milk that fat cow for ms again and we will gladly buy the milk while others (i wont mention any names but we/you know your selves) complain why ms is milking Halo
Dont worry guys Halo is too fat a cash cow for both ms and Bungie to keep their hands of, somewhere somehow Bungie will milk that fat cow for ms again
Sorry but telling a story better like reach did compared to halo 3 is hardly some revolutionary step forward. ODST was a step forward for the franchise because it actually did change up the way the story was presented making it feel fresh. How was Reach any different? You made an argument that you are now defending with a hypocritcal stance in the sense that Halo reach does more than Halo 3 but Black Ops doesn't do more than MW2. It doesn't matter if you didn't like the changes that were made, or think that the "core gameplay" hasn't changed because as stated before, HALO REACH did not change the game play from halo 3 any more so than black ops did for MW2. Your argument is so blinded by your hate for activision it is ridiculous.
From Halo 3 to Reach, we get four player co-op, the original theater mode, forge mode, all manner of tweaks, firefight mode, and stability. And a story mode that, perhaps not oscar-winning, at least makes sense. Every Halo game has at least been one step forward. Call of Duty, from 1 to 4, have been gradual steps forward. Every game that follows has been two steps forward and one back if we're lucky and now it looks like it'll be one step forward two back with Activision's plan to release a new call of duty every YEAR. Without even improving the engines. NOT EVEN GRAPHICS, the most shallow of elements.
@gamer620 Added vehicles, which were terrible, and then taken out in future renditions. So that's technically a flimsy step forward and then a step back. Let's look at something else. From 1-3, Call of Duty is competent if unremarkable. It contributed NOTHING to the genre unlike Halo 1-2 which arguably brought credibility and accessibility to the FPS Genre as well as rekindling an interest in co-op. Call of Duty 4 is the ground breaking game of the Call of Duty franchise, bringing us perks and kill streaks and all that jazz. World at War was the unremarkable except for Zombie Mode. Modern Warfare 2 was a step back. Not only did it add nothing new, it was broken from the beginning. Oh, I guess it added more guns and perks but really? Is that anything noteworthy? Oh, more prestiges. Let me roll my eyes. Every game after 4 is pretty much a copy of four. The biggest addition is Zombie mode and a broken theater mode. And the stories just get worse from there. It ceases to be about coherency and is more about "shock". It's like they came away from 4 believing "wow, people were amazed by playing a guy dying from radiation sickness, LET'S DO THAT TEN TIMES OVER. Let's kill civilians in an air port, kill a random astronaut and then kill the one character that people actually start to like and give a totally ridiculous reason for it". And don't get me started on all the crazy torture in Black Ops.
I am more than sad at the fact that Bungie has removed itself from a franchise that I hold dear...In their latest update, Bungie stated that they "won't go out with a whimper", I hope that they go out with a BANG...cause the community that made them what they are today deserves it! While I'm sad to see Bungie move on (simultaneously excited to see what the studio will work on next!), I have faith in 343/C.A....the more I've seen of their work the more I like it. They're comprised mainly of employees who hold the franchise in the same revere that most of its fans do! KEEPIN MY FINGERS CROSSED FOR HALO:COMBAT (RE-)EVOLVED!!!
@gamer620 Now someone else could just as easily best that comment and counter point it with a pro halo version, see you clearly are a cod fan, and know little to nothing about the improvement to the Halo series. Moot point dude, moot point. Unlike your effort the factual counter point would be exhaustive and verbose. Move along, move along.
@AncientDozer No I did not forget that Halo had that record once, and explain to me how the halo formula has changed any more than the CoD formula has since their inception? Hmm... Lets take a look here shall we? Halo 1 to Halo 2 saw Health regen and online play added to the mix. CoD 1 to CoD 2 saw Improved Graphics and Health regen Halo 2 to Halo 3 saw improved Graphics, Theater mode, Forge and brand new online features including a new ranking system CoD 2 - CoD 3 saw Vehicles added to the multiplayer... this is by far the weakest entry so far... lets keep going. Halo 3 - ODST = added firefight to the mix and a new story to tell. CoD 3 - MW (wait for it, this is the big one) = Added Perks, Kill Streaks, New online game modes, a new ranking system, prestige mode, and like ODST a new theater of war, only difference here? COMPLETELY NEW SETTING AND WEAPONS. Do I even need to continue after what MW added to the franchise? That game alone has done more to the CoD franchise than any halo game has done for its franchise. But hey.... you keep riding your Activision hate train though... CoD doesn't do anything new... I mean, they didnt add even more content into MW2 or Black ops... i mean spec ops didn't exist at all... neither did the wager matches or bots from Black Ops...
I am a 7th column member and will always love Bungie, no other developer offers as much in game, and in the community as they do. That said, I think every dev house would benefit from going multi-platform, it just means more people would be exposed (*gasp) to their genius. The fact that activision is proclaiming from the rooftops that the next bungie game is better than halo, that's a given and has nothing to do with them. With each successive bungie game the feature set and customization of the games has increased, so yes it will have everything reach has and more, it just won't be Halo. I totally disagree with the activision singing though, I think it was the wrong move for bungie, the microsoft buyout all over again, except not. But I wish them the best of luck, if anyone can survive the horror of activision 'tis them. I think activision can get flung with the giant slingshot, into the sun! Oh yeah CA they are a top group of guys and gal's 343 too, and lot's of them are ex bungie, so yay us.
Activision please piss off Bungie so its comes back to its fans in Microsoft and the Xbox Community and help 343 make the best Halo games ever. The Franchise universe still has many places to explore and show us fans in detail. But dunt ever do what you did u Infinity Ward
Sounds okay to me... I wasn't too impressed by Noble map pack, and the new Defiant maps look a lot better IMO.
its kinda like bungie is the perents & halo is the child,when the child turned 18 the perents kicked the child out of home & said its time for you to stand on your own two feet, & set about travling in there little camper home to travel around the world. they call the child everynow & then to see if there not dead. but this is a sad story
It's good someone else is helping them make more maps. The Defiant Map Pack looks impressive. I'm also glad there is a Forge World. That will help keep the game more replayable. (Just hope for another Forge World environment setting)
Well going by the look of this new map pack... I think its great that they're not making anymore maps. 343 maps looks so so good! way better then the last map pack.
@ wlldan All of their prime developers are still there, and admit that Activision is the best publisher in the world. Blizzard and Bungie and Treyarch included. Activision was a big deal in gaming back in the 80's!!! And it sure wasn't because of flunky studios who can't handle the heat, like Bizarre Creations.
There will be more map packs. Bungie just isn't making them. 343i and Certain Affinity are handling all future Downloadable Content for Halo:Reach.
@TheTHCGamer "I hope activison pressures bungie into messing up and bungie goes bunkrupt." Your spiteful and a fair weather fan.
@gamer620 I'm glad that you forget that Halo held that record before and remains supremely competitive and is highly regarded, highly popular, and very much adored. Call of Duty, while played a lot, is controversial for being the same game over and over. For not changing at all. As soon as the Activision Blizzard merger happened, things like charging 20 dollars for recolored normal mounts happened. Activision who has proclaimed their intention to pump out a call of duty game every year, who has no intention as of yet making a new game engine but riding the current one to its grave. Activision, who threatened to charge a monthly fee for CoD multiplayer. Yeah, I feel perfectly justifying calling them a train wreck waiting to happen. Just because Call of Duty and WoW has everyone by the teet, doesn't mean they are the be all end all or that they aren't making terrible choices. It just means some people accept terrible things.
That's why they created Forge. So gamers can continue making their own multiplayer maps, thus extending the games shelf life.
People always complain that COD comes out every year, and on top of it they release two $15 map packs. Yet Halo comes out maybe every 3 years and they release two map packs within the first 6 months? What doesn't make sense to me is that this type of DLC is supposed to extend the life of the game. If Bungie is done making map packs, how can it be expected that people will still be playing Reach in 3 years like they were with Halo 3? It kinda proves that DLC isn't necessary to keep a game alive. Unless of course M$ is going to make map packs themselves. I don't fully agree with the use of community made maps. I think they are fun, but they should pay the members who made the maps if they get used.
@gamer620 The only reason CoD is the best selling FPS is because its also availible on the PS3. Halo is a 360 exculusive title. Can't wait to see what Bungie makes next!
@ TheTrueMagusX1 actually my dear Magus im using the cage as example of how lame halo has become when thats considered one of the "good" boards. Notice the quotes?
@AncientDozer... yeah we all know Acti-Blizz reputation... turning annual IPs into gold. Remember... CoD NOT Halo is the best selling FPS of this generation. Pretty sure they will make as much if not more that what they were getting off the halo franchise.
I'm looking forward to their new IP, hopefully the partnership with Activision doesn't smother their sincerity and quality.
I feel like Bungie is potentially shooting themselves in the foot. So what if they kept making Halo games, They were making bank. Now they're with, who was it? EA? Activision-Blizzard? Right, Activision-Blizzard. And we all know their reputation.
@WllDan7 While you have a justifiable reason to not like Activision, and I personally donot buy games cause the games they release these days donot interest me, its kind of funny how Publishers resemble the Movie Studios of old. Activision is much like many of the studio system of old, say something like RKO or the old Warner Bros. Activision is a well groomed factory that pumps out games while the executives own every aspect of it. Activision has what is called Vertical Intergration which in a buisness sense is a brilliant idea, but on the other hand it limits creative. Holding a monoply on the games they make are great for buisness, but on creativity it is lacking. I will be honest I like call of Duty, but the series is getting stale, and this is a direct result of vertical intergration.
They've had an awesome run with Halo. It's time they moved on to new projects. I'll always support them! :) Hope Activision doesn't mess them up though. >_>
@CyberKlown28 The reason we hate activsion is because they destroy the studios that make them successful then sue the ones who defect to other studios.
@WeskerLogan Wow your comments are funny. You complain about DLC and use the Cage as an example which is a Variant map that was included in the game at retail, not DLC. LOL
Lol at the hate for Activision. If they weren't successful they wouldn't be hated. And Bungie's next project will outsell Halo CE for sure, thanks to Activision's support.
@The THCGamer WTF are you talking about? Bungie has always cared about the halo games and they even cared about Reach and bungie has given Reach updates, sure you may not have noticed them but they are there and just look at the new playlists they have had. And sure bungie is with activision but activision will never bring bungie down. As it is bungie is very popular and activision is on the edge of death.
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