Borderlands 2 finished, Gearbox now working on DLC

 @vault-boy i guess its like a sale. To attract attention and promote at the sametime. I've preorder the game so no complaints there :) This is worth my 59.90

 @IceDefenseGod i agree but people want money we can thank the most greedy companies for this EA and capcom.

 @IceDefenseGod Quit whining, they would never be able to get the DLC they're working on into the the millions of copies of Borderlands 2 before the release day. In RPGs, it is almost like making a section of their game all over again from scratch, it's not like it's map pack.

 @IceDefenseGod its going to take them five months just to push it out. The concept for this character came out in late April. Would you rather them go back to square 1 to fit her in and delay the game til possibly early '13. I didnt think so...

 @IceDefenseGod Feeling better after all that crying?

 @AuronAXE Or if the DLC not worthy of your money, which I highly doubt, because it is a brand new character in a game that your powers and skill tree is like adding a hole new campaign.

 @Gelugon_baat  @warhawk-geeby Most expansion packs were expensive because they added a LOT of content. Not 4 maps and a couple of skins. Entirely new areas, new quests, hours and hours of new stuff.  Not all of them, I agree, but they were reviewed on a higher standard than you can look at 99% of todays "DLC".

With the exception of Bethseda's output, I can't think of much DLC this gen that would be worthy of the name "expansion pack".

 @Gelugon_baat What about the likes of Gears of War and Uncharted 3 having 'DLC' locked on the disc?  It's a new trend that's killing the industry.

Digital distribution may be cost effective for the companies, but now consoles are no longer backwards compatible it means folks are losing their money.  I found my old stash of PC games the other day and I know I'll still be able to play them one way or another, consoles though unfortunately not.

Companies wonder why sales of games are down and it's because we can no longer afford to buy multiple titles.  If you buy a game now you can practically guarantee there'll be 3 expansion packs released within 8 months, costing consumers anything up to 100 bucks/quid per game.

It's a sad state of affairs!

 @Toxic-Seahorse You don't even have to buy the game.

 @Toxic-Seahorse You don't have to buy the DLC.

 @Toxic-Seahorse Uh, the DLC is free if you preorder.  

 @Toxic-Seahorse Did you actually read the entire article? 

Clearly you don't understand how the process works...  Software goes to "code complete" status LONG before it's published. Then it's tested, fixed, etc., then goes "Gold". Then it's physically published. Adding in the character AFTER that would mean that it's no longer "code complete", thus restarting that whole process.   ...further, did you miss the part that A) it's FREE, and B) the target date is 2-3 months AFTER the release? 

 @Toxic-Seahorse why don't i get free desserts and drinks when i go to a restuarant? "Oh, right, they want to squeeze as much money out of me as possible."

 @raydawg2000 You do know that game developers and game testers aren't the same job, right?

 @warhawk-geeby A few people have mentioned this, so maybe you can clarify for me: what's the difference between dlc like the ones released for the original borderlands (or fallout 3, or the upcoming skyrim and dark souls dlc), and a 'good old expansion pack'?

I mean, the idea is that someone doesn't just try to sell you something that should have been unlockable right? (a palette swap, new voice/music tracks, some extra weapons, etc.) I agree that for new content to have value, it should include a substantial shift / addition in gameplay (new maps, gear, missions, npcs, etc. all rolled into one). But  some dlc (the ones that are actually being properly made) do all of this.

I agree that some oldschool PC expansions we're completely mindblowing in scope, sometimes as large again as the original game (Beyond the Dark Portal from WC2, Broodwar, and Armageddon's Blade from HMM3 come immediately to mind, but there are countless others). Thing is, those expansions were released at a comparable price point to the originals. They were essentially full-priced games running off the same game engine. Until recently consoles couldn't do this because of technical limitations, and so released ridiculous amounts of numbered sequels instead.

So, please explain. What's the difference between a $10 dlc that adds a few new maps, gear, missions enemies, etc. and a $60 expansion that adds a new campaign (with more maps, gear, missions, enemies, etc.)?

 @warhawk-geeby So you would rather them wait until release, then start work on DLC content?  Or would you rather them try to include this  DLC in the release that is barely 2 months away.  In my opinion, it was foolish to announce this because of people like you, but it is an open secret that EVERY developer starts DLC before the game is released.

 @marcusurelius

 i agree whining when one said he dont even like the game....well why do you care? and waiting till it hits the bargain shelf is ok but about every game gives its true fans dlc and things for being loyal fans. and obviously theyre not going to be able to put the dlc in the game before release date. if u want to whine and complain about something go to the ea forum thats the company trying to squeeze money out of everybody. and the sad part is everyone complains but they still buy it regardless. so why complain. if u dont like it dont buy it. me ill be in line on release date waiting to get my copy. oh and then im gonna laugh at those bargain bin buyers when they complain about oh i gotta pay extra for the dlc....well you knew that long before but i bet you will complain about it again. and the kicker you will still buy it. lol its a vicious cycle

 @Gelugon_baat  @parrot_of_adun Yeah, free dlc is the sh^t, I couldn't agree more. I'm assuming you mean the RedDead 'outlaws to the end' mode that added some co-op missions? It was fun, but not immense in scope by any stretch of the imagination. Keep in mind too that it was only released after a substantial number of $9.99. As fun as they were, none of them expanded the game world, with the exception of undead nighmare, didn't add anything enormously different about the game (or time consuming to program).

I'm not knocking Rockstar for doing them (I'd rather have more of a game I really liked), but I think you'll find that most Borderlands 1 dlc was better value than RedDead's. Also, by the time Rockstar / Take 2 got around to doing the free dlc, they'd already more than made back their money on both the main game and the paid dlc. It was, essentially (and they even said this in the release) a thank you to our fans for supporting our game. So, um, how is this any different from what Gearbox is doing (with the exception that they're thanking their fans straight up, instead of waiting until they make enough money off them)?

 @Gelugon_baat I would because I'm going to pre-order. you cant expect Gearbox to thank-you from the bottom of the bargain bin. Get over yourself

 @Gelugon_baat Reading all your comments, you are just pissed because devs wont give you stuff for free? Its like OMGUSH THEY ARE SO GREEDY, but i dont know a single person that works for free. They are a company. If you like DLC (i personally don't, i prefer expansion packs retail-version) or not, you can't demand and get angry just because people arent giving you stuff for free.