Nintendo annual revs hit $18.5 billion, profits up 8.5%

  • By Mark Walton, GameSpot UK
  • Posted May 7, 2009 4:18 am PT

Mario maker banks $2.83 billion in net income, $6 billion operating profit; 26 million Wiis, 31 million DSs, 16 million Wii Fits sold during last fiscal year.

Despite the grim news coming from some in the gaming world, Nintendo hasn't been feeling the pinch like other companies. Aside from some stock volatility, the Wii maker has continued to post record sales and significant profits.

Today the Mario factory released its financial results for its fiscal year ended March 31, and the company reported sales of more than ¥1.83 trillion ($18.5 billion, £12.2 billion) and operating profits of ¥555 billion ($5.64 billion, £3.72 billion). After taxes and extraordinary expenses, Nintendo's net income for the year wound up at ¥279 billion ($2.83 billion, £1.87 billion), a rise of 8.5 percent on last year's figures, though falling slightly short of analyst expectations.

Nintendo also announced sales figures for its consoles, with 26 million Wii systems sold for the fiscal year, pushing lifetime sales beyond 50 million and reaching that milestone faster than any other console, according to the publisher.

The company's handheld also enjoyed incredible sales, with 31 million DS units sold, pushing lifetime sales past 100 million units and edging ever closer to the PlayStation 2's 136-million sales mark. Again, Nintendo touted the handheld as having achieved the milestone faster than any other game system in history. Software sales also rose for both the Wii and DS, with 197 million DS and 204 million Wii games sold.

As for specific games, Nintendo singled out sales of Pokemon Platinum (3.75 million) and Kirby Super Star Ultra (2.36 million), noting that those games didn't see release in Europe during the fiscal year. Bolstering the company's strategy of pursuing evergreen games were sales of the Brain Age series. Between the two DS installments, Brain Age sold 7.31 million copies during the year, pushing lifetime sales to 31.12 million.

The Wii also saw its share of sales success stories, none of which were bigger than Wii Fit. The Balance Board peripheral pack-in managed to sell 16.37 million for the year, bringing its lifetime total to 18.22 million worldwide. Slightly less popular was Mario Kart Wii, which sold 15.4 million copies packed in with the Wii Wheel peripheral. Nintendo also released sales for its two big holiday releases, Animal Crossing: City Folk (3.38 million) and Wii Music (2.65 million).

Nintendo also gave projected sales figures for the coming year, estimating that another 26 million Wiis and 30 million DSs will be sold. As for software, the publisher expects consumers to snap up 220 million Wii games and 180 million DS games.

244 Comments

  • rouguesquadron

    Posted May 14, 2009 8:49 am PT

    @ fps_d0minat0r

    You don't know what your talking about. Some of the greatest ever came out during the 16-bit era. Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Zelda: LttP are great games. To go one step further it's still up to debate which of these two games is the greatest game ever (Zelda: OoT or FF 7.)

    If better specs truly made a better game then the new argument would be if Twilight Princess is better than FF 13 or not (I know FF 13 isn't out yet but you get my point.) Specs do not make a game, it doesn't matter if a game has the best graphics possible as long as the game has a good story the game will be good.

  • HAWKYMAN

    Posted May 13, 2009 3:11 am PT

    Rofl fanboys. Here we go. EDIT: Lol@format of this site. Also, guess which kinda fanboy I am.

    "its been the same running and rolling since he came to gaming in 1991.....thats almost when i was born LMFAO.
    so much for nintendo being creative lol.....still using 18 year old sonic and 28 year old mario.....and fanboys like you are proud of it."

    The whole reason Sonic games suck nowadays is BECAUSE they try to make it new and 'exciting'. Sonic is not supposed to be a direct competitor to todays advanced games, its a fast paced simple twitch game. The only direct comparison would be Mirrors Edge. Its not supposed to even be 3d... Same is true for Wii games in that theyre not supposed to be technically superior, if you cant understand that then maybe you shouldnt be skipping school. No More Heros sucked, btw, IMO. Just to make clear where Im coming from. I also have a blast playing Wii Sports. I also play games like Stalker, Crysis, Fallout3-Oblivion(PC), KOTOR, Halo, Res Evil(4), and Bejeweled and Minesweeper. To name very few. If your a 360/PS3 fanboy knocking on someone that likes Wii games... Your under 20 years old, and have no idea what gaming is all about. And FYI Oblivion on consoles is nothing compared to the PC version.

  • brendanhunt1

    Posted May 12, 2009 12:02 pm PT

    i still prefer ps3, better games

  • brendanhunt1

    Posted May 12, 2009 12:01 pm PT

    familys buy the wii for the gameplay it offers, they also buy it because it keeps you healthy

  • FoxExecutive

    Posted May 11, 2009 10:43 am PT

    You guys remind me of this:

    "Water sucks, Gatorade is better."

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 11, 2009 8:54 am PT

    @ fps_d0minat0r
    Pices does have a point when it comes to you. yeah you've brought up spec but other than that you've done nothing but call him a fanboy. try to be a bit civil when arguing man. you're just making yourself seem like a PS3 fanboy.

  • Pices

    Posted May 11, 2009 8:53 am PT

    @malco and fps

    *sigh* Look folks, I am done with this. I hate making arguments online especially about console wars. You could go on and say "Oh giving up? Wii fanboy" etc. Whatever reply from one of you gets posted, I'll simply ignore it.

    PS Nintendo did not make Sonic. Sega did

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 11, 2009 8:15 am PT

    @ Pices
    "* How about you ask the Youtube guy about the 15 exclusive titles?"
    oh no, don't pass this on to someone else.
    why should i involve him in an arguement between me and you. this just further proves that you yourself can't name good 15 wii exclusives. you've already admitted to the PS3 having higher specs and really that's what we're trying to argue here. what makes a game better is specs. what makes a game more fun is opinion. there is a difference between good games and games you like more. for example I really liked No More Heros, in fact it is my favourite wii game. but i know that as a game Oblivion does a better job.

    "The Wii does not need oblivion, Assassins creed etc. You want those games , then buy the other systems. I bought the Wii for originality and unique gameplay."
    this isn't an original idea. fps_d0minat0r already brought up the PS EYE. i'll bring up the NES POWER GLOVE. it's the same idea. unique gameplay is a different story. Even on one of the wii's best games, No More Heros, you only did a few wii mote actions. the rest was pressing buttons. Same with mario galaxy. you only used the wii mote to spin and shoot stars. the most impressive wii-mote use comes from, Metroid 3, wii-sports, wii-fit, skate it, and the rayman mini game comps. i have another challenge. name 15 games that use the wii mote for more than just swinging, because to be honest that's the only motion that's been done somewhat right. and try and stick with this challenge man.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 7:47 am PT

    @ Pices

    sonic failed on all systems......poor gameplay and last gen graphics.
    how would you expect sonic to be a hit anyway? its been the same running and rolling since he came to gaming in 1991.....thats almost when i was born LMFAO.
    so much for nintendo being creative lol.....still using 18 year old sonic and 28 year old mario.....and fanboys like you are proud of it.

    any facts???
    come on.....you got the whole internet, there must be atleast 1 fact in favour of the wii.

  • Pices

    Posted May 11, 2009 7:19 am PT

    @fps

    better technology = sonic 06?

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 7:10 am PT

    @ pices

    you didnt prove it.....becuase you cant.

    better technology = better games.

    if that was false, people would be happy with their PS1's.

    none of your comments have facts in them, i dont even know why you bother.

  • Pices

    Posted May 11, 2009 5:47 am PT

    @fps

    Judging from your comment you're saying that I'm a fanboy. This all started when some guy said that the Wii has no good games. You then came and said that the ps3 has better games because of the "quality". All I wanted to do was to prove to the guy that the Wii has great games and thats it.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 5:26 am PT

    @ Pices

    ok.....atleast now i know you read the list.....

    tell me if you know any other wii fanboys who think its better then PS3 and ill sort them out too.

    so much for the guy on youtube.....he didnt even last 1 comment.

  • Pices

    Posted May 11, 2009 1:43 am PT

    @ fps_d0minat0r

    I said it once and I'll say it again. Every specs info you gave about PS3 is better than the wii like the processor etc. I find all consoles great. Each one is good in it's own ways. I don't play those crappy casual games like swinging around. The Wii is a next-gen system if you checked the Youtube guy. I play the hardcore ones.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 1:34 am PT

    @ pices

    heres the best your youtube buddy could do.

    "You're missing the point. I never said the Wii was better. I was just saying that the Wii is a good system. And plus, I think the PS3 is the best. Didn't hear me say that in the video?"

    my quest for a fact in favour of the wii continues.......
    *epic music plays*

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 1:31 am PT

    @ Pices

    its not opiniated.....see that massive list i gave you before....

    have you even read it? Here it is again if you havent read it

    100% FACT:
    processor PS3 > wii (obvious)
    graphics PS3 > wii (obvious)
    number of online players PS3 > wii (32,40,60 and soon 256)
    dedicated servers PS3 > wii (obvious due to no. of players)
    average length of each game PS3 > wii (see format)
    content in each game PS3 > wii (obvious, see details)
    control options PS3 > wii (sixaxis, dualshock, mouse + keyboard, logitech G25 and almost anything with USB)
    storage capacity PS3 > wii (SATA HDD, dead cheap even if u get a 300GB one)
    format PS3 > wii (nothing stands up to 50GB blu-ray)
    connectivity PS3 = wii (both have wifi and bluetooth)
    online services PS3 > wii (nothing beats PS home or the frequent updates as you mentioned)
    Quality of exclusives PS3 > wii (see most other things here)
    number of exclusives wii > PS3 (does anyone actually buy 1000's of games? NO, therefore i will not consider it an advantage)
    marketing wii > PS3 (obvious, compare sales with specs)
    characters PS3 > wii (i cant believe they still use 28 year old mario as their most used character)
    web browser PS3 > wii (obvious)
    image gallery PS3 > wii (very cool in PS3)
    oh....i forgot...resolution PS3 > wii (obvisouly 1080p pwns)

    got any objections????
    PS3 is better as far as facts go.

    like you said if you prefer swinging a remote at a tv with last gen level games then its your "opinion" lol.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 11, 2009 1:26 am PT

    @ Pices

    you could have just said
    "yes i know all the facts go in favour of PS3 but i like wii because i like to swing a remote around at the tv"

    and btw i never said wii doesnt have exclusives.
    i only state facts and i said wii has MORE exclusives.
    however the quality of them is low compared to PS3 games.

    im not saying wii games are rubbish, im saying PS3 games are better designed leading to more gameplay.

    i dont see whats so creative about wii games as you mentioned.
    dont forget motion sensing was bought into household gaming by the PS2 with its eye toy which "senses motion"

    but of course PS3 is the only console with both motion sensing and a joypad in one......good balance of both.....ahhh... with dualshock 3 now as well.

  • Pices

    Posted May 10, 2009 11:27 pm PT

    * I never said that multiplatforms are better on the Wii. The majority of them are better on ps3/360 but SOME are on the Wii (Sonic Unleashed, Force Unleashed)

    * Well, ratings aside. I find the games better but you don't. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

    * The Wii does not need oblivion, Assassins creed etc. You want those games , then buy the other systems. I bought the Wii for originality and unique gameplay.

    * There are a lot of good games on the Wii, just because they don't appeal to you or you don't find them good, that does not mean that they are bad.

    * How about you ask the Youtube guy about the 15 exclusive titles? My job here is done and I am done with arguing

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 10, 2009 7:15 pm PT

    @ Pices
    yeah you never said the wii is better, but you tried to say that all multiplatform games get higher ratings and then go back and say we're giving opinianated statements. as I said before ratings ARE the OPINIONS of people who get paid to give their opinions.you're giving opinionated statements as well. you may think that multiplatform are better on the wii but not everyone thinks so. not everyone goes ratings crazy either. ratings arent official world renown, so you using them to back up a point really goes against your "opinionated statements" arguement. on to point 2. i'm sorry but fps_d0minat0r has a point when he says that no wii games compares to a PS3 or 360 game. no wii game has gotten close to Oblivion's, MGS4's, Uncharted's, Halo's, Soul Calibur 4's, Lost Planet's, GTA4's, OR Assassin's Creed's quality. I don't even think you can say that was an opinionated statement. if you wanna go buy your ratings formula Gamespot gave the wii version a lower rating than the other consoles, COD 3 also got lower scores on the wii, so did Madden 08 & 09 , Manhunt 2, Pikmin, Scarface, The Godfather, and well i think that's enough to get my point across. *ahem* i'm not gona lie the only reason that i'm responding is because you make it so easy. at least I never called you a fanboy. and at least your youtube buddy can stick with one arguement. I watched some of his videos. he doesn't go around saying "your statement is opinionated" when proven with a point he can't argue.
    "Only clever devs develop for PS3? Ya...nice philosophy.' it is. where's the wii's oblivion?i owned a wii at one point. i sold it within 9 months. that's how tired I was of waiting for good wii games. there was 4 at the time. I owned all of them. sold them all. the even the good wii games have major shortcomings. like bieng able to beat no more heros in 4 days. or Super Mario Galaxy being easier and shorter than Super Mario 64. the point is that the "opinion" card shouldn't be played when it doesn't apply. there are good wii games but back to MY ORIGINAL ARGUEMENT, which you seemed to have veered off of, that list of wii games WAS pretty weak and FULL of ports. i still haven't had anyone name 15 good wii exclusive games.

  • Payback7

    Posted May 10, 2009 4:26 pm PT

    Dang - can't all you fan boys just be happy for Nintendo. I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but at least I have the guts to congratulate other systems/consoles when they do well. All the systems are great in their own ways. Each system appeals to different people in different ways - accept that and enjoy your own console - GEEZ!

  • Pices

    Posted May 10, 2009 9:39 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    * I never said that the Wii is better
    * Just because your giving opinionated statements, they should be accepted as facts?
    * so we have to dedicate ourselves to one console and become obsessive fanboys?

    I already explained why I am not a fanboy

    @Malco

    So that makes me unintelligent? I sure got bored from arguing with people full of immaturity.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 10, 2009 8:55 am PT

    ah well at least Pices' youtube buddy seems intelligent.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 10, 2009 7:53 am PT

    so you think a game of 9GB max would last as long as a game of 50GB max?
    if you think thats wrong then one would call that stupidity, not trying to offend you or anything.

    and i dont know where u got the idea that people aint satisfied with online.......more people play online then they do single player.
    and PS3 offers 16,32,40,60 and soon 256 players.....all lag free and cost free and in games like killzone 2, it maintains the graphics detail from single player, not many games do that.

    exclusives aint rare, its just that wii has the habbit of making 5gb games using old characters, 28 years old in the case of mario and pricing them the same as PS3 games.

    PS3 games take years to make which is why their better. wii billions of lightyears away from games like MGS4, GT5 and killzone 2.......ur actally gonna compare metriod prime with KZ2 or mario kart with GT5?
    you must be having a laugh m8.

    btw name me 1 thing xbox is better then PS3 at or dont talk trash.
    and wii wouldnt be good even if it had 2160p HD......cus the games are poorly designed, have no depth to them, lack good online competitive play and obvisouly dont last very long.....9gb yh wow, that was PS2 days for me.

    anyways if 50Gb is useless how comes wii didnt stick with 750mb CD's???
    oh yh i forgot the obvious......the more content the better the game.

    talk sense next time.

  • BaillieBoy

    Posted May 10, 2009 7:12 am PT

    lmao, dominator comes off as the most biased gamer out there. Your facts don't mean anything, so what if it's 50GB a disc? I've yet to see how that has affected what a multiplatform game looks and plays like.

    The online is something A LOT of people aren't really satisfied with, it's not brilliant if more people dislike it than like it.

    Exclusives are very rare on the PS3, so yeah.

    I think it's a powerful beast, but what has it done to show it's better than a mere 360? Nothing yet. What if Nintendo made a new console, with 1080p graphics and a bunch of other stuff. They would honestly destroy both sony and microsoft, and you know they would.

    That's the only thing you're backing really, is the graphics department, with the billions that nintendo are making, they could make a console that blows the PS3 out of the water.

  • Pices

    Posted May 10, 2009 7:00 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    Ugh...what does it take to put some sense into you? So, Capcom will gain something for "lying" about the development costs? Come on now. I gave you sources, dated or not, they are still valid. I never said that the PS3 is weak or anything, its much more powerful than the Wii in every way, I totally agree. About opinions, now if you say something is better, does that necessarily mean that it is a fact? Let me give you an example : Sonic fans defend Sonic games no matter how bad they are. They say Sonic 06 is an amazing game. But it isn't. So it is their opinion. Nothing special? Madoworld, Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 etc. The Wii does have great games. And for the last time, I am not a fanboy. If I am a fanboy I would criticise a console and favor the other one so much. I don't do that and I find all consoles great, even the 360 (which I don't have). If a guy says that XBL sucks and I explained to him the content and on how good it is, does that make me a 360 fanboy ?(even though I don't own one). wii does have great exclusives like mario galaxy, metroid, zelda, punch out etc. Twilight Princess takes 40-50 hours to complete. The Conduit and Madword have great AI . I have component cables to play it on HD. Just because it has no HD graphics, that does not mean that it sucks. They don't necessarily make the game good (Too human, legendary , Sonic etc.) Wii is stronger than the original X-box, that is how it is next-gen. Just because other companies went to one direction, that does not mean that Nintendo has to follow it. Only clever devs develop for PS3? Ya...nice philosophy. Seriously, this argument is going forever.

    If you have a Youtube account, and would love to argue about console wars , go to this guy :

    www.youtube.com/shokio

    And I will ask you nicely to drop the argument, no one owned anyone here. Let us just play whatever console what we want, mind other people's business and tolearte others likes/dislikes. Don't start saying,"Oh I won haha" or some rubbish and immature statement. Like I said, I posted the link of a youtube account and I am not free to argue about ridiculous console wars. Console war is the most ridiculous thing right after the Iraqi war.

  • Zerabp

    Posted May 10, 2009 6:57 am PT

    Ok i have to say something to all the nintendo fanboys who think the sun rises and falls with SSBB. Unlike most of you who laud this game with praise i owned a gamecube. I also played the original on N64. I was looking forward very much to Brawl as SSBM had done nothing but improve upon the original. Note i and my friends even took place in multiple local SSBM competitions and we hate competitive gaming, we just liked Melee that much. Even when played with a Gamecube controller, the preferred method for most Brawl players, it is inferior in every way shape and form to Melee, not even the graphics are improved except in the cut scenes. It went from being a game where a button masher would lose to and experienced player every time to a game where the button masher has a solid chance to win. All around it was a disappointment to true gamers who were fans of the series (note i mean real fans not fanboys who will prop it up even when they get so many things wrong). In short SSBB was the death knoll for my Wii gaming as it was simply the single most hyped dissappointment i have had with this gaming generation. Try playing a game that was underscored like Drakes Fortune, or Kameo. drakes should have gotten tens from everywhere and kameo 9s and only then because of one level (the underwater one for those who played it) ok after remembering that level Kameo maybe an 8.5 but still both are twenty times better then brawl. If you want to play a brawl type game pick up and Play SSBM instead it's also twenty times better. Just please stop fauning over the game that was nothing near what it could have been.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 10, 2009 3:00 am PT

    @ Pices

    its not hard to believe.....common sense tells us that if a company can make a game for a system then making another game for the same system is easily possible. I dont know whats so hard in understanding this simple theory.

    PS3 does have the best hardware, its a fact....see that massive list i made for you before.
    nintendo games dont even have half the content PS3 games do which is why nintendo having so many games is nothing special.
    its not like wii games last as long as PS3 games anyway.

    all wii fanboys come down to the "opinion" point when they cant prove anything against the PS3 or cant defend the wii......dont worry, its in the blood of someone who owns a nintendo, its not only you.

    wii doesnt have great exclusives, the best graphics on wii are just average for PS3 and xbox.
    the scale of wii games also cannot come anywhere near PS3 and xbox because it simply doesnt have the processing power.
    wii also lacks good AI because of the same reason above.
    it doesnt even do HD which makes it look even worse and unappealing to play.
    and gameplay is controlled by 5 buttons and 2 motion sensors.....wow thats a lot of depth to gameplay..... (not)

    compared to the PS2 or xbox 1, wii take the edge on games but dont be comparing it to the current gen consoles. wii is so last gen.

    PS3's development kit was reduced by 50% back in 2007.....stop using out of date information u little fanboy.
    http://uk.gamespot.com/news/6183089.html

    PS3's easy development:
    http://www.psu.com/PS3-development-was-easy,-says-COD4-developer-News--a0001806-p0.php

    PS3 easier to develop for then other consoles:
    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.104989

    more easy ps3 development:
    http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/08/27/team-ninjas-itagaki-says-ps3-development-easier-than-famicom/

    its like at school, not everyone can be clever so not everyone sits the higher tier exam paper.......in the gaming industry, the clever devs develop for PS3......the below average ones cry about it and no-one buys their games anyway......so they go to wii, create something in 3GB and sell it for the same price as a PS3 game potentially exceeding 50gb.

  • nappan

    Posted May 10, 2009 1:56 am PT

    Wow. That's um... that is a lot of money... I think I'd feel better about it if that revenue came from people buying a better class of game. As Taylormakdederek said, it would be nice if this had been happening in the context of meaningful gaming. How is it that Metroid, Zelda, MadWord, NMH, MG, MK, etc... are not the basis for that revenue... but WiiFit?

    I don't even blame Nintendo... clearly this is a problem with people at the consumer level. If Nintendo can make this kind of scratch publishing Wii Fit, why make real games? Nintendo fans are shooting themselves in the foot by supporting some of this trash, and by NOT supporting the quality!

  • Pices

    Posted May 10, 2009 12:50 am PT

    @Malco

    Want a cookie? You won because you say so? His points about comparison of ps3 and wii specs are correct. How would you react if a people gave your great game a bad score? Not KZ2, but another high rated game. I remember you saying that SSBB doesn't deserve a 9.5 because it is a 1 year old game. So should I give MGS4 a 5 because almost one year has passed?

    @fps-d0minat0r

    I know its hard to believe about Capcom but its the truth. If you don't believe me then CONTACT THEM. About Wii's technology, its not "a 10 year old PC". It handled the COD4 engine, an engine that ps3 and 360 use. About the PS3 is the best system with best games....that is your opinion, it can't be a fact. All consoles are great, so why do you become an obssessive fanboy and dedicate yourself to one? The Wii has MORE exclusives than the PS3 because of the development costs (and I mean great games). Lets take this into logical sense..... do you think that it is cheap for a developer to make games on a system that has blue-ray, power graphic-cell processor, etc.? No, it is not. Research if you don't believe me. Here are links for you :

    http://www.ps3power.com/ps3-dev-expensive.htm

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/playstation-ps3-sony-price-drop,news-3637.html


    And stop giving me garbage about quality games from the PS3, ALL SYSTEMS have great exclusives. Some people disagree with you, others won't. That is why your statements are completely opinionated.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:18 pm PT

    @ fps_d0minat0r

    i agree with your points. Pices doesn't look at the points you make anyway. he just argue for the sake of arguing. if he actually took the points we made into consideration he would've made a decent arguement when i said "name 15 good wii games" or when you said "If a wii game gets a 9.0 the same exact game (not improved version) would get a lower score because the PS3 can do better.". but instead his main counterpoint is "your opinions about these games don't matter" and such. he hasn't made a solid counterpoint so we've won in our arguements against him.

    @ BLuFAlc0n
    "If u said PS3 got one of the weakest voltage, you're wrong because the Wii has the best-saving energy compared to the ps3."
    how is this possible when you have to buy batteries every 3 weeks for the wii-mote. or when a PS3 controller's lithium battery lasts longer than AA rechargables. or when AA rechargables eventually die within a few years and lithium batteries die after 15 years. not only is the PS3 an energy saver it's also a money saver when it comes to batteries.

  • taylormadederek

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:10 pm PT

    If this was two years ago when Nintendo made relevant software I would be happy for them.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:07 pm PT

    @ Pices if the PS3 vevelopment costs are so high for monster hunter then:
    1) why would capcom be pushing for 40+ PSN games
    2) why is dead rising 2 coming to the PS3 and 360 as where Dead Rising one was a 360 exclusive. capcom is one of the biggest gaming companies in the world i doubt making MH 3 would be expensive. it's also been confirmed that there will be a monthly fee for MH 3's online at least in Japan. they could've done that for the PS3 and covered the "expensive development costs" that apparently are limiting this multimillion dollar earning company.

    "Yet again, your opinions about these games don't matter. True Gamer? I'm pretty sure you'll go balistic if the KZ2 gets negative opinions from people , right?"

    i actually traded in KZ2 so there goes that point.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 9, 2009 2:19 pm PT

    @ Pices

    firstly id like to say every single game in the world is fun, even pong from back in the 70's.
    the POINT IM MAKING is that at the moment, PS3 is the best console with the best games. see the massive list i made for you earlier.....you dont seem to have proved any of it wrong or objected to it so i assume you accept it.....you have no choice anyway, it was all fact in there.

    its not expensive developing for PS3......its just that its dirt cheap developing for wii because that level of technology was used in PC's 10 years ago.....ppl have had plenty of experience with that and for game developers, its childs play.

    however even if it was expensive, PS3 games still come out good.
    at the end of the day who wants to spend money on a game with a low budget anyway???
    its like the movies, you would watch something professional with stunts, not amatuer footage of a backyard stunt......atm thats how wii is representing it self......theres obvious proof looking at the quality of wii games compared to PS3 games which you your self claim their more expensive to make.

    the best things are never cheap.....i could go crying to ferrari to make me a car under 10k but then it would be a peice of s**t.

  • andrew_ribbons

    Posted May 9, 2009 11:15 am PT

    "hatieshorrer Posted May 9, 2009 1:12 am GMT @andrew ribbons

    I could read through your entire comment a point out ever thing thats wrong but Ill just point out that MarioKart(Wii) has sold over 14million units. So how many games on the other current generation consoles have sold 14million units."

    @hatieshorrer

    Oh please, so the Wii's prize game is a regurgitation of what's Nintendo first did back in the early 90s?

    That only goes to prove my point further that Nintendo are failing to innovate. Sure they've added stick wagging to a console with about 25% more power than a G.cube, however that is nothing more than a gimmick, a cheap lure for the gullable.

    A cheap lure that's worked, i will credit. However does that make it right? No. It simply makes Nintendo just another greedy corporation, when in gaming, developers and console designers can be so, so much more than that.

    It remains that 9/10 people i know who have a Wii, admit the novelty wore off after a few short months, leaving them with a sub-par console with a very generic set of re-runs and casual spin-offs for games.

  • Pices

    Posted May 9, 2009 10:45 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    I have the game. Its generic. Killzone 2 . It takes place on the planet Helghan, the home-world of the Helghast, who invaded an Interplanetary Strategic Alliance (ISA) colony. Two years after the Helghast assault on Vekta, the ISA has launched an assault on the enemy's homeworld of Helghan. The ISA goal is to capture the Helghast leader, Scolar Visari, and bring the Helghast war machine to a halt. Players assume the role of Sergeant Tomas "Sev" Sevchenko, a battle-hardened veteran of the special forces unit Alpha Team, who go on a mission to take out the Helghast threat. I'm not saying its bad, it not a "unique" storyline and completely basic. And the Wii does have. Eg : TP

    Graphics don't matter? If that was true, then people will stop playing Ocarina Of Time and stop buying Wiis. And Wii has great graphics, even though not as good as PS3. NWFC is not as good as PSN but its not broken either , Eg : Mario kart, mario strikers, call of duty Waw, moh : h2. Developing games isn't expensive? Where is your proof for that? You're telling me that it is cheap to develop a game for a console that has blue-ray, powerful graphics-cell processor etc. Seriously, research before you know.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 9, 2009 10:35 am PT

    @ Pices

    lol whats wrong with its story? its epic and it makes sense......you always like to critise stuff without reasons.
    It doesnt have the best story but then again wii games aint known for their storylines anyway.

    and im not discussing why MH wasnt on PS3, im TELLING you that the reason you think is real is infact a load of s**t.
    its common sense that if they make lots of PS3 games then MH isnt that complicated to make anyway.

    and graphics and online is all that matters......graphics make it attractive and online gives it good replay value.
    im suprised why you didnt talk about physics, depth of gameplay, textures, resolutions ect......oh yh wii cant match it.

    if you critisise anything except the best, obvisouly your gonna sound stupid.
    just look back to that long list i made especially for you and compare it to a list of your own....which will probably be number of games and.....thats it.

    developing for PS3 isnt expensive, it requires skill and all game designers earn the same amount of money, cost doesnt even come into it.
    as for being difficult, infinity ward said it was easy making COD4 and looking at the quality of other games, it also looks like they were made with ease.

    however you have some studios like bethesda who cant even make a port properly and therefore PS3's version of fallout looked worse then PC and xbox.
    however games are now being made for PS3 and ported onto the xbox.

    If the wii had the same power as PS3, i still wouldnt buy it because it would lack exclusives and first party titles.
    all id be playing is a realistic looking mario.

  • Pices

    Posted May 9, 2009 10:19 am PT

    @Malco

    Yet again, your opinions about these games don't matter. True Gamer? I'm pretty sure you'll go balistic if the KZ2 gets negative opinions from people , right?

    @fps_d0minat0r

    You discuss this with Capcom , not me. Heres proof :

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/6180675.html?sid=6180675&part=rss&subj=6180675

    Maybe I regretted buying KZ2 since it makes people think that its the "best game ever". It has a weak/generic story with some control hang-ups like the 6-axis controller. Only good thing are graphics and online. All consoles are great, so don't dedicate yourself to one. You're ridiculous obsession over the PS3 completely blinds you from the truth. If I'm a fanboy , I would say stuff like "Wii rulz, ps3 sucks" . That means that I criticise other consoles. But I don't do that because its stupid. I have a PS3 and Wii and I play them equally, I also find the 360 a great console. Nintendo is doing a good job as a business, and that is to MAKE PROFIT. Not making "macho" consoles with kick-ass graphics and power. Developing the ps3 and ps3 games require a lot of money, you can't counter that. Heres a wise statement from Miyamotto,"The consensus [at Nintendo] was that power isn't everything for a console. Too many powerful consoles can't coexist. It's like having only ferocious dinosaurs. They might fight and hasten their own extinction.” If the Wii has the same power as PS3 it will be dead on sales.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 9:19 am PT

    @ Pices
    "Sorry, but you're giving me opinionated statements."

    all you did was spill out ratings. ratings are opinions of people employed to give rating. nice try.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 9:13 am PT

    @ uwlbpwnd
    "@fps_dominator:
    "medal of honor heroes 2 gets 8.0 on wii
    call of duty 4 modern warfare gets 9.0 on PS3"

    Shouldn't you be comparing the same game here?"
    okay PS3/360 verison of COD WAW was the overall highest rated if you wanna compare by score, and i'm talking more than just gamespots scores. i can't see the wii version's 8.5 really being as qualitative as the PS360 version's 8.5.

    "@malco_vincenzo: You want 5 good wii games? Super Mario Galaxy
    Zelda TP (not technically a port, was developed for Wii right alongside the GC version)
    Mad World
    Metroid Prime 3
    Super Smash Bros.
    No More Heroes"

    my original arguement when i was talking to Pices was to name 15 good wii games that were wii only. try looking at the whole conversation before you comment.

    @ Pices
    "Sorry, but you're giving me opinionated statements. Here is why I included them :

    * Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 (it got 8s)
    * House Of the Dead Overkill (it got 8s)
    * Legend Of Zelda Twilight Princess(it may be a port but still a great addition for the Wii's library)
    * Okami(Same as TP)
    * Zack and Wiki(It got 8s)
    * Mario Strikers Charged(it got 8s)
    * Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles(it got 7.5s and 8s)
    * Trauma Center (Still a great game)
    * ExciteBots(it got 8s)
    * De Blob (it got 8s)
    * Wario Land Shake It(GBA? Show me proof)
    * Deadly Creatures(it got 7.5s and 8s)
    * Super Smash bros. Brawl( 9.5s)
    * World Of Goo(best Wiiware game)
    * Boom Blox(8s)
    * Tenchu 4(says you)
    * Tatsunoko vs Capcom (mod it)

    So far, you failed. You only gave me opinions which are completely inferior. Its obvious that you have not played them."

    you go by ratings which no true gamer does. a ture gamer plays the game for themself and determines if the game is good. So what if boom blox got 8s. it's still not on par with any PS3/360 game. it's not even on par with viva piniata for gods sake. besides these rating are done within weeks of the game's release. would you give SSBB a 9.5 now that it's been out for over a year? Nope. The game gets boring after a couple months play. proof that wario land shake it could be done on GBA, fine. Look at Wario Land 4 for the GBA. that sad thing about this is that Wario Land 4 got an 8.7 as a GBA game and Wario Land Shake It got a 7.5 on the wii, if you wanna go by ratings. Kinda sad to see a GBA gane from almost 10 years ago beat a wii game in quality.As for Tatsunoko vs Capcom, it's bad when you have to use a modded game on your list to prove a point. Deadly creatures getting 7.5 or 8 doesn't change the fact that the game is really repetitive. Everyone is getting sick of games like Mario Sports games. you wii list of games is still very weak, and the wii game library is still filled with more shovelware on it than any other console in history. It's kinda of sad to see that there will probably be more more sports sequels and Mario Party sequels then Final Fantasy Sequals.

  • Xanzibar_Joe

    Posted May 9, 2009 8:27 am PT

    Last Time i checked, Super Smash Bros Brawl was a pretty amazing game. And it was fun to boot. Anyway, the PS3 has 6 cores powering it, of course it's gonna be graphically and technologically brilliant. However it does not guarantee that all the games are gonna be fun to play. The wii has a very decent line up of it's own, even if it has got a hell of a lot of third party crap.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:58 am PT

    Pices

    its common sence that if they can develop a game like RE5 for PS3 then they can also develop MH.

    you need proof for that?

    and ur silly if u think any game on wii that got a 9.0 comes anywhere near killzone 2.....thats impossible, no game on wii has that sort of depth in technology or gameplay.

    Haze is 1 game out of hundreds of games with stunning graphics......sonic got boring 10 years ago like mario so i dont even want to talk about that.

    oh just because im supporting the better system im a fanboy.......you havent given me 1 reason why wii is better so your the fanboy defending it for no reason at all.

  • Pices

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:17 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    Show me proof that Nintendo "helped" MH. Why are you comparing titles? Each console has good games. And this philosophy about that if a game gets 9 on wii it'll get better on ps3, that is opinionated , I';m sorry. Graphics aren't everything , Sonic 06 and Haze prove so. Just because ps3 has better graphics, that does not mean that Wii graphics are bad. Like I said, trolling about a console just shows how you're an obssessive fanboy.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:12 am PT

    @ Pices

    i know they said it, obvisouly their hiding something.

    nintendo knows they cant outsell PS3 in japan so they tried to get hold of the massive MH fanbase but its gonna flop because MH is all about PSP and playing MP locally.

    anyways MH isnt that big of a title compared to GT5, god of war, infamous and all the other multiplatforms which will be rubbish on the wii.

    whats smg?
    killzone 2 got 9.0 on PS3 standards......if killzone 2 somehow managed to work on wii, it would be the best game on wii and therefore it would get a 10.0.

    i dont think you understood my last post about game ratings according to consoles.
    and game rated 9.0 on PS3 will be better then a game rated 9.0 on wii because obvisouly the wii version will be bad.

    however it gets a 9.0 on wii because its that good for WII STANDARDS, NOT ps3 standards.

    if i was wrong then theres hundreds of games that beat killzone, however common sense tells us theres not many games anywhere near killzone 2.

    anyways play wii if you like, i just said the facts.

    at the end of the day if someone likes worse graphics then its not my fault.

  • uwlbpwnd

    Posted May 9, 2009 7:01 am PT

    @fps_dominator:
    "medal of honor heroes 2 gets 8.0 on wii
    call of duty 4 modern warfare gets 9.0 on PS3"

    Shouldn't you be comparing the same game here?

    @malco_vincenzo: You want 5 good wii games? Super Mario Galaxy
    Zelda TP (not technically a port, was developed for Wii right alongside the GC version)
    Mad World
    Metroid Prime 3
    Super Smash Bros.
    No More Heroes

    And thats just what I can think of off the top of my head. I could give you even more if I were awake, but for now those 6 great wii games should be enough to at least disprove your point.

  • Pices

    Posted May 9, 2009 6:59 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    Well, you can contact the developers because they even said it in an interview. And there are a lot of sources.

    Ok, COD 4 is better but that does not necessarily mean that moh:h2 is a bad game? Oh, you wanna play like that? SMG got 9.5 while KZ2 got 9, so i guess kz2 is a bad game? Now, you get the point. Each console has an advantage and disadvantage. So, how about you tolerate other people's likes and dislikes and don't become an obessisve fanboy by giving fans of "insert console here " a bad name?

    That fact list is correct but not necessarily a good thing. With blue-ray and high graphics cell processor, ps3 is an expensive console to develop for. HD graphics don't make the game better, eg : Sonic 06, Haze , Legendary, etc.

  • fps_d0minat0r

    Posted May 9, 2009 6:53 am PT

    @ Pices
    Thats because PS2 had lots of support from game developers.
    The PS3 still has that but now most games are multiplatform however sony have also increased their first party games to more then make up for it.
    and PS2 was only the weakest because it was the first to come out and mark my word, PS3 will also last over 9 years just like PS2 because sony make their consoles for the long run unlike nintendo and M$.

    and if capcom cant afford to develop MH for PS3 then how can they afford to develop all their other games???
    you believe anything if you read it twice dont you?

    and stop going by ratings.....ratings are based on the consoles ability, their benchmarked against the best game on the same console, not the best on other systems.

    If a wii game gets a 9.0 the same exact game (not improved version) would get a lower score because the PS3 can do better.
    however multiplatforms are better on PS3 and xbox which is why they get the same score as on wii, 9.0 in the case of the example.
    medal of honor heroes 2 gets 8.0 on wii
    call of duty 4 modern warfare gets 9.0 on PS3

    that should have been enough to open your eyes.....

    why dont you just admit now that ive proved it that PS3 has more facts in its favour.

    unless you can prove that massive comparison list i made, wrong.

  • Pices

    Posted May 9, 2009 6:40 am PT

    @fps_d0minat0r

    Power is not necessarily a good thing. The Ps2 was a successful console and it was the weakest last-gen console. And yes, what I said about MH3 is true. Research it and it looks promising. The PS3 may be the most powerful, but with every advantage comes a disadvantage.

    @Malco_Vincenzo

    Sorry, but you're giving me opinionated statements. Here is why I included them :

    * Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 (it got 8s)
    * House Of the Dead Overkill (it got 8s)
    * Legend Of Zelda Twilight Princess(it may be a port but still a great addition for the Wii's library)
    * Okami(Same as TP)
    * Zack and Wiki(It got 8s)
    * Mario Strikers Charged(it got 8s)
    * Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles(it got 7.5s and 8s)
    * Trauma Center (Still a great game)
    * ExciteBots(it got 8s)
    * De Blob (it got 8s)
    * Wario Land Shake It(GBA? Show me proof)
    * Deadly Creatures(it got 7.5s and 8s)
    * Super Smash bros. Brawl( 9.5s)
    * World Of Goo(best Wiiware game)
    * Boom Blox(8s)
    * Tenchu 4(says you)
    * Tatsunoko vs Capcom (mod it)

    So far, you failed. You only gave me opinions which are completely inferior. Its obvious that you have not played them.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 6:37 am PT

    @ fps_d0minat0r

    "so u go by the ratings?
    i actually play the games or look at gameplay footage.
    every single multiplatform is better then on wii."
    support this with a list of games and then i'll consider this statement.
    look at games like ,skate it, farcry, COD WAW, and Fight Night Round 3. These games sucked on the wii and their PS3/360 cousinns were way better.

  • Malco_Vincenzo

    Posted May 9, 2009 6:29 am PT

    @ Pices
    that was a week list. i'll tell you what was wrong with it.
    there was a LOT of ports. i said name "wii" games not ported games.also you tried to used a games that you had to mod your wii for. no points there either. after all that you only came up with 4 truly good wii games.
    No More Heros, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, and Tales of Symphonia. Jeez you couldn't even name 5 good wii games.

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