NPD: Wii sales top 2M during $2.9B month

[UPDATE] Nintendo's console reigns supreme in hardware, more than doubling Xbox 360; Gears 2, COD: World at War top software; top-20 games.

Recession may be on the tip of everyone's tongues, but consumers' appetite for the interactive medium continues largely unabated. Industry stat-tracking firm The NPD Group today released its assessment for US gaming retail sales in November. Industry sales were up 10 percent year-over-year. Domestic sales of hardware, software, and accessories reached $2.91 billion for the month, pushing 2008's total just over the $16 billion threshold.

2,040,000 units in one month.

November 2008's 10 percent sales growth is especially impressive, considering that last month's tally contained seven fewer post-Thanksgiving shopping days compared to a year ago. One huge reason for the surge was the Wii. With an analyst-noted surge in supply, Nintendo's console more than doubled its 2007 numbers, selling more than 2.04 million units. The Nintendo DS also proved staggeringly popular, shifting 1.57 million units on the month.

While lodged firmly in third place in hardware sales for November, Microsoft made huge gains over rival Sony last month. Xbox 360 sales more than doubled those of the PlayStation 3, with Microsoft's console outselling Sony's system 836,000 units to 378,000. Sony's depth bolstered the company's performance, however, with PSP sales hitting 421,000 units and the aging PlayStation 2 managing 206,000 systems.

On the software side, Microsoft and Epic Games' sci-fi third-person shooter Gears of War 2 took the gold, reaching sales of 1.56 million units in November. That figure represents just over half of the title's global haul, which Microsoft pegged at 3 million earlier this week. Activision's Call of Duty: World at War, which also debuted last month, fell just shy of Gears 2's tally on a platform-by-platform basis, with the Xbox 360 edition seeing sales of 1.41 million units and the PS3 game selling an additional 597,000 copies.

Nintendo's Wii Fit, Wii Play, and Mario Kart Wii had another commendable month at retail, snagging the third, fourth, and fifth slots in November's chart with a respective 796,000, 697,000, and 637,000 units. While the rhythm genre was decidedly underrepresented in October, Activision's Guitar Hero World Tour for the Wii and Wii Music both surged in November, logging respective sales of 475,000 units and 297,000 copies.

Other strong performers for the month include the Xbox 360 edition of Valve's Left 4 Dead (410,000 units) and Insomniac Games' flagship PS3-exclusive shooter Resistance 2 (385,000 units).

Though the NPD Group does not include PC titles in its monthly report, Frazier also noted that World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King enjoyed stellar sales for the month. "We would be remiss not to point out the strength of PC game sales this month as lead by the release of the latest World of Warcraft expansion pack," said Frazier. "Wrath of the Lich King sold over 1.4 million units in the US during its debut month at retail." Worldwide, the game sold more than 2.8 million copies in just 24 hours.

[UPDATE] On Friday, NPD expanded its list of the top console and handheld software sold in November to include the 20 best-selling games. Of note, October's top title--the Xbox 360-exclusive Fable II--saw a substantial drop in sales, falling to 19 on the chart. Another big drop came by way of Bethesda's Fallout 3 for the Xbox 360, which fell nine spots to 12.

US VIDEO GAMES INDUSTRY - NOVEMBER 2008
Software: $1.45B (+11%)
Hardware: $1.21B (+10%)
Accessories: $255M (+7%)
Total Games: $2.91B (10%)

TOP-SELLING HARDWARE - NOVEMBER 2008
Wii--2.04 million
Nintendo DS--1.57 million
Xbox 360--836,000
PlayStation Portable--421,000
PlayStation 3--378,000
PlayStation 2--206,000

TOP-SELLING SOFTWARE - NOVEMBER 2008
Title / Publisher / Units*
1) Gears of War 2 (Xbox 360) / Microsoft / 1,560,000
2) Call of Duty: World at War (Xbox 360) / Activision Blizzard / 1,410,000
3) Wii Play w/ Remote (WII) / Nintendo / 796,000
4) Wii Fit w/ Balance Board (WII) / Nintendo / 697,000
5) Mario Kart Wii w/ Wheel (WII) / Nintendo / 637,000
6) Call of Duty: World at War (PS3) / Activision Blizzard / 597,000
7) Guitar Hero World Tour (Wii) / Activision Blizzard / 475,000
8) Left 4 Dead (Xbox 360) / Electronic Arts / 410,000
9) Resistance 2 (PS3) / Sony / 385,000
10) Wii Music / Nintendo / 297,000
11) Animal Crossing: City Folk (Wii) / Nintendo
12) Fallout 3 (Xbox 360) / Bethesda Softworks
13) Rock Band (Wii) / MTV Games
14) Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia (DS) / Nintendo
15) Guitar Hero World Tour (Xbox 360) / Activision Blizzard
16) Mario Kart (DS) / Nintendo
17) Guitar Hero World Tour (PS2) / Activision Blizzard
18) WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2009 (PS2) / THQ
19) Fable II (Xbox 360) / Microsoft
20) Madden NFL 09 (Xbox 360) / Electronic Arts

* Figures include Collector's Editions and non-hardware bundles.

708 Comments

  • Nicaboy456

    Posted Jan 8, 2009 8:21 pm PT

    hopefully the profit is spent on developing an actual next gen console this time....

  • gudni

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 6:01 pm PT

    Wii play w/ remote is almost 800.000 which is understandable since you only have to pay around 10bucks more and get your extra remote with a game. And most people who have played Wii play agree that it is an ok game for 10bucks.
    Is there a site that i can see the sales of extra controllers for the 360 and PS3?

  • silentmage_245

    Posted Jan 6, 2009 4:13 am PT

    God of War 3? Itsa PS3 exclusive.

  • monlosez

    Posted Dec 19, 2008 3:26 pm PT

    Just look at the software sales for PS3, you wonder why PS3 is losing most of their exclusives because they can't sale softwares. Tekken 6 and Final Fantasy XIII are coming to Xbox 360. Those are only two I am looking for in PS3. Rest aren't even close to Xbox 360's exclusives.

  • zig_star

    Posted Dec 19, 2008 3:28 am PT

    Ok most Wii games suck but the console sells well, I'm confused

  • Media_Mind

    Posted Dec 18, 2008 2:03 pm PT

    Now I'm curious what next-gen systems will be like...

  • JYoung103175

    Posted Dec 18, 2008 8:47 am PT

    No fan boy here, but I have owned all three systems, still own 2 of them (sold the xbox360). Hands down, for me, Playstation 3 takes the cake. I do like the Wii when people are over, and besides Mario Galaxy. not something I really play by myself. Wii is selling well because its directed towards children(which im a big one at 33) and also the revolutionary controller, Xbox is outselling playstation because it is cheaper and we are in a recession. As more eclusives come out, and blue ray officially takes over the universe, watch as the playstation 3 climbs. I know people who own ps3s just for the blue ray player. Its got free online play, great graphics, looks slicker, and just kicks a$$ in my opinion. I think when the war is over, Wii will win which is a no brainer, but PS3 will outdo the 360. My personal opionion. Only reason I will even miss my 360 is because I want to play Gears 2 because I love 1, but I can always rent or borrow one to take care of that itch, other then that, I could care less about another Halo!

  • snaggleoooo

    Posted Dec 18, 2008 2:46 am PT

    @ nintendokid
    You maybe right that the XBL servers are unified and the PSN's are not and that the PSN is copying much of the XBL features, but we're not paying for it. I am very happy with the standard of the PSN. I've never suffered from lag, as have the vast majority of PSN users. We get a good service for nothing, while you pay for a service only slightly better. Also, you're saying all non-subscription fee MMO's are terrible. I played WoW and I hated it, yet I've played Guild Wars, which has no fee, which has got great ratings and still enjoy after almost 3 years, as have the more than 5 million others that play the game.

  • King_of_Gamez3

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 7:41 pm PT

    Lukemaneiro I completely agree with you.... this has nothing to do with console wars...each console is good in its own ways and its bad in its own ways...i really don't get why people are agrueing about these things...they are all great

  • Lukemaneiro

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 4:28 pm PT

    Omg THIS IS NOT A CONSOLE WAR TOPIC! All consoles are GREAT. And stop whining about "my console has better graphics". If you want graphics, then get a gaming PC.

  • MoparAddict

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 3:04 pm PT

    Man, all those people saying one system is better than another; look at the stats, they can't be wrong. If you think they're I guess the world population must be as well.

  • tigerlegend76

    Posted Dec 17, 2008 7:26 am PT

    Let's hope that nintendo take their profits and invest them into a technically superior version of the wii for the next gen of consoles.

  • wiiplay1

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 7:56 pm PT

    I still don't understand why Wii Play is still selling like crazy. I always see it on store shelfs. Besides the Wii Remote, it is almost worthless. Here is a tip: Only buy it if you need another Wii Remote and/or want to sell it on Ebay.

  • PrinceofSarcasm

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 7:30 pm PT

    @ xdeiri. "PSN beinging so laggy that its almost inaccessible", how dare you even think of calling someone else a fanboy. PSN is fine so stop trying to justify 50$ a year. All you have is cross game voice chat but we get much more with home

  • srdjan311

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 7:25 pm PT

    dang nintendo is rockin it this gen

  • nintendokid

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 10:43 am PT

    @KingOfOldSkool

    http://reelgamers.com/games/online.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2QEx8r3bDQ

    You're connection speed doesn't matter if the server source is low bandwidth. When no one is paying you (or you choose not to charge) to do something for them, there is no incentive to push you to work harder than you have to.

    Case in point: XBL has been a pay-to-use service from the beginning. It was never free and even during development and planning they decided it would not be free. The reason is because they wanted to really do a get job and get paid for it along the way. They showed how to properly do online gaming. Their domination of online gaming also pushed Sony to implement that into their games.

    The reason why PSN keeps getting better each and everyday is because they have the XBL gold standed to look at and say "We need to do this better like XBL. We need to do it this way to make it better than theirs."

  • debo55

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 6:07 am PT

    The Wii does have a pretty weak game library, but I don't think the people who buy the Wii are as critical of game quality as most of the hardcore gamers out there...Look at Wii Sports...Not a deep and complicated game by any means, but sometimes is just fun to swing a controller at the tv.

    As far as the online system, each has its drawbacks. Xbox Live is a better overall service (Gamespot and IGN writers will tell you that, and I think they would know) but it costs money. PSN is free, but is not as rounded (although they are trying to go in that direction). Sony took a gamble with the PS3...They bet that people would be so loyal to the playstation name that they would pay more (and get more) for their system. So far that hasn't happened but it's still early. I don't even think the numbers are the big issue...The thing that gets me is how many developers are going from exclusive Sony titles to appearing on the 360. They're going to go where the money is, and strictly from a numbers standpoint right now, thats the 360.

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 3:05 am PT

    @lingofoldskool,just to be fair home will be saturated with ads more so than xbox live

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 2:56 am PT

    @kingofoldskool,last xmas was due to user overload,millions of new xbox live subscribers logging on at the same time overwhelming the system.don,t try to spin the story you know what happened LOL

  • KingOfOldSkool

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 1:35 am PT

    What I find so funny is how XBL fanboys accuse those who defend the Playstation network of not using XBL that much when in fact it is probably the other way around. I have plenty of experience with both networks and find the differences negligible at best. @nintendokid - umm.. yeah.. maybe you should spend more time analyzing your slow home network than blaming Sony.You know.. for an infrastructure that is blown by so many it certainly likes to have plenty of holiday season failures like last like December when the XBL network was down for a while. @xdeiri - Yeah.. "pay" for your XBL gold while still seeing an excessive amount of ad's..

  • xdeiri

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 1:22 am PT

    RetroGamer34233
    you sony fan boy i am glad to pay 50 a year to xbox live this insures me the quality service, ps3 online gaming is almost un access able due to lagging and other problems , and this mandatory huge updating

  • KingOfOldSkool

    Posted Dec 16, 2008 12:33 am PT

    I think it's funny so many are blasting Retrogamer34233 considering he's the only one I've seen that isn't talking out of their a**.. XBL is probably the most overrated part of this current generation besides the Wii console itself. Don't get me wrong.. I have both and enjoy both.. but sometimes it seems like the gaming masses are probably as ignorant as they have ever been with numbers such as these. People blast the PS3 for lack of games while a console that hasnt had a quality title in MONTHS sells over 2 millions consoles in one month.. and people continue to buy games in droves for a console the likes of the 360 which has had reports on it which basically indicate that M$ knew about the mass RROD and disc scratching problems ahead of time.. but still shipped their system in an effort to get a full year on the PS3 to create drone-like gamers that.. well.. are like the majority of people commenting on topics like these.

  • TheArcade

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 7:50 pm PT

    Good one IKRITaiNT! XD

  • TheArcade

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 6:33 pm PT

    @RetroGamer34233: Sounds like you are trying to find every reason possible to bash Xbox Live which doesn't matter because it doesn't change the fact that there are twice as many online subscribers on Live than there are PS3's PSN service, the install base for the Xbox 360 is greater, and 360 games sell more, you lose.

  • jtthegame316

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 4:46 pm PT

    RetroGamer34233 why are you moaning about a yearly subcribtion for an excellent service £40 over an whole year is nothing. I am sure you have something that you pay for monthly live is cheaper than whatever you pay for monthly. if you don't want to pay go on live sliver you can still chat to your friends and download content on sliver. sony have you fooled there service might not have a supcribtion fee but they are getting the money out of you in other ways plus for as long as it is free psn will never be as good as live and by time it catches up we will be into next generation of systems.

  • puppiemaster

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 4:44 pm PT

    Having both a 360 and PS3 I have to say the 360 is much better online, but thats to be expected as I pay £27.99 a year to do so.

  • nintendokid

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 3:36 pm PT

    @RetroGamer34233

    You are out of touch with reality at a level beyond belief. If you want to provide a gateway for people to meet (online gaming) you have to run servers. Servers are very expensive to run. You have to keep the electricity going 24/7, 365 days. You have to run air conditioning to the server room 24/7, 365 days (server rooms are always cold). You need engineers and techs to maintain the hardware, update the software and troubleshoot. You are expected to upkeep your server for millions of people 24/7, 365 days, for all of your online games.

    PSN is not unified like XBL. When you are playing SOCOM, you are on SOCOM's server. When you are playing Resistance, you are on Resistance's server. XBL is also very fast. I can download a huge 1GB+ demo like Bioshock in mere minutes. Compare any pay-to-play MMORPG with free-to-play (codename for CRAP) MMORPG and tell me that the free one's connectivity and speed is superior.

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 3:18 pm PT

    @retrogamer34233,price and games are what,s hurting sony.the ps3 is cell based game development.it takes time to make games for the ps3.time is money when your dealing in the buisness world.what ever sony needs to do they better do it fast.time is not on there side.

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 3:10 pm PT

    @retrogamer34233,you should get a 360 and see what folks have been experiencing on xbox live.you get a free trial for 30 days and if you don,t like,i would gladly refund your misery lol come and see how deep the rabit hole is.as far as an axe to grind,folks on the 360 don,t have time to fear anything!! sony don,t have the games,PERIOD!! sony can,t rely on a hit here or a hit there.you must not have read the november numbers.

  • IKRITaiNT

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 1:14 pm PT

    maybe detroit should be asking nintendo for their bailout money.

  • RetroGamer34233

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 12:14 pm PT

    I'm not saying XBL should be completely free. None of the online services are free. But it's the typical Microsoft business model: Give the customer just a little something for free to draw them in, then charge the hell out of them for anything that's remotely useful for more than just a few minutes. I understand 50 bucks a year is nothing, but how much of that stuff could you realistically live without? I'm sure there's only a couple features most people use frequently. Now I'm not going to waste my time and energy arguing this with you. It seems to me many 360 owners on this site have quite the axe to grind. I guess they're afraid the PS3 will actually someday knock them out of the water, I dunno. but what I know is this: The online play feature should be free. Microsoft should let you do that through the free service that comes with the console. If they want to charge you for all the other bells and whistles you mentioned, fine. Those are things not offered elsewhere. But online gaming is.

  • wildarmx

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 11:40 am PT

    its amazing how so many people are upset at the fact that the wii is crushing everyone.... wake up, its got mass appeal!! even your precious 360 cant touch it. PS3 is the most hardcore of them all and yet you still chose 360 over it...... its quite hilarious

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 11:22 am PT

    @retrogamer34233,xbox live charges a fee for several reasons,user freindly interface,8 person chat while we are on our seperate games,acheivements,custom sound trax.the updates are no more than 15sec.50 bucks a year is nothing!!!!!!! how much money do a person spends on booze,cigs,weed,sex? xbox live is topnotch when it comes to online gaming on the console.for those who says live should be free,look at psn and compare.

  • RetroGamer34233

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 11:09 am PT

    Oh, I'm sorry, nintendokid. I almost forgot you can also share your avatar (yippie!) and talk on message boards (you can do that on just about any console these days). All I'm saying is all consoles offer some type of online experience, there's no reason you should have to pay to play games online. paying for the Netflix service and game downloads is one thing, but even the DS and PSP offer free online co-op play.

    And no, I haven't sat down with XBL for a long time. I don't usually have large chunks of time to spend playing games (I only have an hour or two at a time usually), which would make it even more pointless to pay for it.

    HD television is a luxury on top of your standard service. We've moved past the point of having to pay for co-op online play - it shouldn't be a luxury any more. But hey, if you like feeding the Microsoft machine all your money for what's standard on the PS3 and Wii, feel free. They're ripping you off.

  • nintendokid

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 10:50 am PT

    @RetroGamer34233

    You obviously have never sat down with XBOX Live for a good amount of time. XBL offers more than just connectivity with other players. But there's no point in discussing this further because you have no knowledge of how XBL actually works beyond connectivity. Why don't you call your cable TV provider and tell them that their HD channels should be free since the local TV channels are free.

  • RetroGamer34233

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 10:34 am PT

    I think the lack of physical RAM on the PS3 is based on the fact that additional memory can be taken off the main processor. Does anyone know for sure if the 360 currently utilized all 512mb?

    As for a price drop, I'm not sure that's the only thing that is needed to increase sales. I think when people begin to see the PS3 living up to its full potential they'll pay just about anything for it. Because even now all console are much cheaper than a hardcore PC gaming system. Now if Sony would just bring back that PS2 compatibility, which I think is another big part of their downfall. True, the PS3 had its best year in terms of console sales, but the PS One and 2 blew their competition out of the water in previous generations. I will admit Sony is pushing consoles hard this holiday season. I saw rows and rows of them on display at the store with the big yellow tag for a sign.

  • cajunstrike

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 10:15 am PT

    One can only wonder how long Sony will hold off on a PlayStation 3 price reduction in order to spur sales...

  • xplosiv_shift

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 9:57 am PT

    stupid sony how can they only have 256mb of ram when a console before them has 512mb !!!!!!!!! dumb japaneese freaks! the bottom line of this article is that the world is skrewed up buying wii's and the xbox rules

  • joeborg14

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 9:38 am PT

    lol, 360 isn't getting as many sales as it used to 'cause everyone already has one!
    also, for the PS3's "flagship," 385K sales for Resistance 2, compared to Gears 2 with over 1.5 mil, seems pretty weak.

  • debo55

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 9:14 am PT

    A haiku about this article.

    When these guys compete
    Gamers are the ones who win
    So shut the **** up

  • leebec

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 9:05 am PT

    After all the moaning that LBP had only been out a few days when October's results were annouced, where is LBP now its had a full month a retail?
    Nowhere to be seen....

  • RetroGamer34233

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 8:56 am PT

    RageSet made a very good argument for not only the Wii, but for the gaming industry as a whole. It's a ways down, but I'd highly suggest reading it.

    Like I've said before, I own a Wii because it fits my gaming needs better than a 360 or PS3. I like being able to play "Super Mario Galaxy" then switching to some "Metal Slug" on the Virtual Console. I'm not a huge fan of shooters like Halo, GoW and the such, which are plentiful on the 360 and PS3, so I would get limited use out of those. And the fact that the graphics aren't what they are on the other two doesn't bother me. Nintendo has, though, had a reputation of featuring great sound and music with its games, especially first party titles (the SMG soundtrack is exceptional).

    Truth is, all three consoles have their own shortcomings. For example:

    Wii - Graphics aren't as good, not too many "great" third-party titles (more titles are becoming wi-fi compatible, so that argument is moot).

    360 - "Ring of Fire." And the fact you have to pay for any meaningful online content ticks me off. It was OK to pay on the original Xbox because it was by far the best online service at the time. Now, everyone is doing it, even on handhelds.

    PS3 - The removal of backwards compatibility for the PS2 probably turned people off since the PS2 was by far the champion of sixth-generation consoles (which means a lot of people have a lot of games for it), and now you have to keep two consoles on your shelf to play PS2 and 3 games. Sixth-gen compatibility is pretty standard on the Wii and 360, so what's the big deal Sony?

    Another problem with the PS3 is it isn't being used to its full potential still. Since Blu-Ray discs hold the info of several DVDs, the games should be multiple times better than on the 360. But most third-party titles only look slightly different, some actually better on the 360, which is a shame if you think about it.

  • xdeiri

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 7:40 am PT

    nintendokid
    man you remind me of HIV virus " which gladly i am not infected with" disguising as a nintendo fan till you get pass then start attacking them . you should be grateful that nintendo raise the gaming world till its beats the movie industry . every thing related to games from consoles to games to companies owe nintendo a big favor, cause they shaped and inspired them all, and you should be, cause nintendo is the mother of all gaming and they really did an amayzing job this gen by expanding video gaming to a wider audience not the crap we heard from microsoft and sony , nintendo the only one who did it.

  • Mason-McGlasson

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 7:21 am PT

    I don't know why all 360 people are coming out saying there system is soo great now. PS3 outsold 360 world wide almost every month this year. The price cut + 2 hit games (which are not near the quality of some of the ps3 games that just released). I own both systems and I picked up gears of war 2 and fable 2 and enjoyed playing fable 2 (the graphics weren't great but the game was fun), gears of war 2 i liked the new changes they made with gameplay, but the game looks outdated. I haven't played it online yet and that was one of my favorite aspects about gears of war 2 so I still got some time to play that game. I have mostly been playing Wrath of the Lich King, but was also playing Resistance 2 alot, but my major title was Call of Duty W@W(PS3). I say PS3 is in a great position right now, a price drop would sell ps3's like crazy and Sony knows this. Even with killer aps like KillZone 2 (which won most the awards from E3 2008 even beating the best looking game on pc (crysis). PS3 sales wont skyrocket until there is a price drop. 360's will go back down after this holiday and ps3 again will sell more most of 2009 season. Another game I would like to try but havent is left 4 dead (360).

  • jmartin1016

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 6:47 am PT

    Thats's insane. Nintendo is rich. No wonder they won't drop the price, people are eating the Wii up. They could problably raise the price to $300 and it would still outsell the 360 and PS3. They won't get me though, I see through their ploy.

  • LosDaddie

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 5:18 am PT

    Another victory for the great Xbox360 and Wii!

    Go, Wii60

  • xdeiri

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 1:19 am PT

    after all we have to admit that it is not nintendo's fault that most wii games sucks, cause motion sensing games made by nintendo simply amazing, but it is the 99% of the third party games that sucks and has done so much damage to the majority of hard core gamers, cause they see it as quick money. but nintendo to be blamed for the lack of major aaa titels first party games .

  • drsnobby

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 12:32 am PT

    All 3 console makers took a chance on a new idea and look at the results of what they did. YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS

  • XCrunner161

    Posted Dec 15, 2008 12:18 am PT

    nintendokid
    you really don't like the wii do you. well here are some answers to your questions. 1. "hardcore" games sell more because "hardcore" gamers are more willing to dish out cash to buy games. 2. while what you say about traditional controllers being able to do what a wiimote can is true to an extent, it just isn't the same. there is a difference between steering with the remote and putting pressure on a joystick. There is a difference between aiming a gun with a wiimote and using the same joystick. Just cuz you can play DDR with a controller, doesn't make you want to play it, does it? that would be dumb. Granted, some of the motion controls for games kinda suck, but that doesn't mean that motion controls suck all together. Finally, try not to get so offended by what others say. I understand that the pride of your 360 needs to be protected from all the nasty fanboys out there but it really isn't good for your health.

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