@Last VIP or whatever your name is. If you did actually keep up with the news you'd realize this game was gonna be 2 disc and now it's shipping on one. You must be thinking of Lost Odyssey, common mistake.

And I game on PC, lemme tell you. You rarely come across a 2 dvd game. And boy do I mean "rarely". And plus unlike console gaming, you are loading all sorts of different textures and data where as a console game has one set of data and textures hence the smaller size. look at Stranglehold, that game was 20 gigs on the pc! Without the hard boiled movie! The 360 was only 6.3 gigs. Failed argument is failed.

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I hope Tri-Ace does a good job and produces a great game.

I better NOT be 'Turn Based'

Finally, an RPG to actually wait for

lol..great points everyone. I like to see intelligent opinions and debates from both sides. One thing I feel will help immensely is the storytelling style in most jrpg's. They need to almost completely get away from "text-telling". Hiring great voice actors to narrate key story moments would go along way to helping gamers staying immerse in the experience as oppose to doing an abundance of "reading"and it minimizes cut-scenes. Having the story made known to you without complete stoppage of gameplay for long periods of time is another advancement jrpg's need to make IMO.

"Square Enix finally spreads their RPG glory to all platforms. I'm still not going to support them. It's time to evolve I can't suffer through that turn-based ancient gameplay."
-cooldude03

Have you played Final Fantasy XII? Kingdom Hearts I and II? The World Ends With You? Didn't think so...

There's a reason that Western RPG's are doing better. A lot of gamers like myself have grown up and are tired of playing as little emo boys out to save the world. Personally, I'm looking for more mature characters who are believable. I love the FF series, but sometimes the characters look so lame and fruity (Vaan). You would think that they would make a more mature looking game for the 360 considering the user base, but looking at the images it doesn't look that way. Whatever. To each his own.

Square Enix finally spreads their RPG glory to all platforms. I'm still not going to support them. It's time to evolve I can't suffer through that turn-based ancient gameplay.

I am basing my views of FFXIII on projections obviously. If it doesn't do anything new I will be disappointed because I just don't think giving JRPGs next gen graphics makes them next gen anymore. I think Square know this because they have spoken at length about making their games more appealing to western audiences with view to making 80% of their sales from outside of Japan.

Don't get me wrong I love old school JRPGs but they are a thing of the past, every other genre is moving forward but Mistwalker haven't even attempted to add anything new or interesting to their games. Sure I can see why some people would like Lost Odyssey but I think it is way way too cautious. All I'm saying really is that I hope this game and future JRPGs makes steps forward because even if the story is great I don't want to play what is essentially the same game all the time.

XanderZane just schooled everyone. It's true. Microsoft is actually focused on getting a lot of RPG's on XBOX 360.

Partnerships with Atlus, Square Enix, Tri-Ace, Mistwalker, Bioware, the list goes on. These companies and more will keep pumping out RPG's for XBOX 360. Variety is key here, and XBOX 360 is achieving it.

Ardiendo_1 @ XanderZane

So what if Sakaguchi created FF, that alone doesn't bridge the gap in quality between Mistwalker and Square so I wasn't contradicting myself at all. Oh and you still haven't pointed out to me any originality in a Mistwalker title, story is subjective and the graphics were hardly mind blowing in LO.

Also please point out where in my post I mentioned Eternal Sonata didn't innovate (I said BD and LO didn't). But whatever, it had a few new ideas I'll give it that but still far from the quality of Oblivion or Mass Effect.
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What originality has SquareEnix put in their FF games? Besides changing them from turn-base to action base. The only thing that makes FF games original are their stories. Lost Odyssey had great graphics. You are just a blind fanboy if you can't see that. The story was very good as well. The game was a success. Blue Dragon wasn't the greatest, but it was better then Untold Legend. lol!! At least we have these RPG's to play, where is FF XIII and White Knight? lmao!! You guys have been waiting for over a year now for a decent RPG. The fact that Sakaguchi help create the Final Fantasy universe means he's capable of making quality RPG games. That's a fact. Any true FF fan would agree with me on that. Stop denying this. Sure, he's capable of making a dud of an RPG too, but so is SquareEnix. Not all their RPG's have been perfect. They've made some bad RPG's in the past as well. Bioware is on a completely different level. They can do no wrong it seems. Even though Mass Effect wasn't perfect, the meat of the game was pretty incredible. Yeah.. don't waste your time on my opinions. lol!! The truth hurts sometime, I know. The PS3 will get some decent RPG's eventually. I'm just happy the 360 is finally getting a taste of what they missed last gen.

@Ardiendo_1 Why waste your time arguing over XanderZane's opinion or anyone else's ? You guys just need to enjoy the games .

@ XanderZane

So what if Sakaguchi created FF, that alone doesn't bridge the gap in quality between Mistwalker and Square so I wasn't contradicting myself at all. Oh and you still haven't pointed out to me any originality in a Mistwalker title, story is subjective and the graphics were hardly mind blowing in LO.

Also please point out where in my post I mentioned Eternal Sonata didn't innovate (I said BD and LO didn't). But whatever, it had a few new ideas I'll give it that but still far from the quality of Oblivion or Mass Effect.

Although the developer is that tri-Ace whatever, it's good to see new jRPGs titles from Square without the Final Fantasy name on them... I saw a trailer from this one and looks promising!

Even if the game bombs, the hilarious Engrish title will live on in the annals of awful video game names.

I hope it departs from the classic J-RPG battle mechanic and become more grown-up like Oblivion!

What exactly is "The Last Remnant"? I would really be happy to see more RPGs come to the Xbox 360. Nothing is wrong with a good collection of what are hope-to-be classics of the RPG realm.

So is it coming to PS3, it is what i concern about.

We got a street date for a new S-E IP! Who cares about the platform, it makes me go WOO!

I am quite excited?

XanderZane your crushing these kids lol.

This year is definitly the year when Xbox gets some good JRPGs

anti-viper The 360 needs a really great, not good or solid, rpg.
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So does the PS3. It doesn't have any good RPG really. Oblivion is old. Untold Legends sucks. Folklore is average. Did I miss any? lol!!

Enterna Sonata doesn't even have a release date yet. It was announced for the PS3 last year in the fall and it's already summer 2008. White Knight & FFXIII won't be out until 2009. The PS3 only has Valkyria Chronicles and Fallout 3 before the end of the year. The 360 has Fable 2, Fallout 3, Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Versperia, Spectral Force 3 and Two Worlds: The Temptation. That doesn't inlcude the 1/2 dozen RPG's already out for the system. ********************************************************
CorruptGamerGX @ normsta

Your point? FFVII was popular and released when RPG's were starting to catch on in North America. It's true that RPG's are popular in Japan but that didn't help Eternal Sonata and Lost Odyssey from failing miserably.

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You. Lost Odyssey is about to sell over a milion copies soon. It didn't fail at all. Eternal Sonata didn't sell great, but it was still a decent game. How well did Folklore and Untold Legend sell. LOL!! Even a sure fire hit like Oblivion couldn't sell 1 million copies on the PS3. What a joke.

Loucetios GodOfSyn

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Ardiendo_1 Eh? I'm sorry but 7 thumbs down for saying Mistwalker won't ever make a game as good as Final Fantasy XIII? I'm not bashing the 360 (in fact I own one) but Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are just terribly bland, unoriginal games. I want everyone who gives me a thumbs down to give me one example of originality or innovation in either of those two games. Western RPGs like Mass Effect are blowing JRPGs out of the water this gen, I hope to God Tri-Ace do something interesting with this one or else I will begin to lose hope.
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Well, Eternal Sonata did have some originality and innovation in it's game. Lost Odyssey had some incredible graphics and a very good story. You keep forgetting that the guy who runs Mistwalker, is the guy who created Final Fantasy. So you are pretty much contradicting yourself. You're saying the creator of FF, can't make a better game then FF? lol!! I'm sure he can.

YES!! YES!! YES!! I just found out yesterday that this game has a confirmed release date. I was at Gamestop making sure my Ninja Gaiden 2 preorder was in place and was asking about Wii Fit's availability. Then I remembered I needed to pre-order Tales of Vesperia which comes out in Dec. So I did that and and thought about Infinite Undiscovery, but was sure there wasn't any SKU for it yet as it wasn't on Gamestop's website. So I asked the rep and booyaa, he was just as shocked to see it in his system as I was. Another pre-order for my XBox 360. Woot!! Can't wait to play these awesome games. ***********************************************************
deadman262 This game is destined to bomb like most 360 RPG's.

Sadly this is true. If it isn't a shooter on the 360, it doesn't do well at all in North America.
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Someone needs to be re-educated. Viva Pinata has sold over a million copies worldwide and Lost Odyssey is on it's way to doing the same. Even Dead Rising, NFS Carbon, Madden 08, Guitar Hero 2 & 3, and Oblivion have all sold well over a million copies and are NOT SHOOTERS. So please STHU about non-shooters not selling on the 360.

"The publisher said that Infinite Undiscovery would see a global release for Microsoft's Xbox 360 on September 2."

THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU, THANK-YOU!!!

Glad to see so many JRPG's making it to Europe, the traditional "Shafted Continent"

4 DVDS omg I have to get up?!

the_real_VIP - Xbox used DVD's instead of CD's because that was the industry norm at the time, and it still is. GTAIV and Oblivion are both HUUGE games filled to the brim with content, perfect examples of what nex-gen should be like and guess what? Both of those games had no problems fitting on 1 DVD. Why? Because they're were no pre-rendered cutscenes everything was real-time.

Your arguement about "As time passes, so is technology" is correct, however that doesn't necessarily mean more disc space because as technology gets better, we use less pre-rendered CGI, actually decreasing disc space. Also take into consideration that as technology progresses, so will our ability with software to be able to compress files deeper, and incorporate into hardware such as the 360 is doing now.

IMO, real-time CGI is far better then pre-rendered because it provides a sense of consistency, instead of the normal Sony type of advertising where we see the pre-rendered cutscenes, then months later the realization hits the public that those weren't actual gameplay movies.

And of course there is still no release date for FFXIII

If this game is taking elements from both Valkyrie Profile and Star Ocean then it should be TIGHT!! Looking forward to it!

@ gamecubepad & Guts5: "1 DVD" is the most useless and unrealistic argument I've ever heard. It's like all of a sudden, from nowhere, 1 DVD is enough. As time passes, so is technology, media storage size has always increased and all of a sudden, Xbox fanboys say 1 DVD is enough. If that is the case, how come the Xbox didn't use CDs instead of DVDs if media storage size wasn't a problem? Why is the Wii using a media storage equivalent to a DVD and not the GameCube disc if Wii games have the "same" graphical quality of the previous generation? PC games are now released on 2 DVDs and unless you guys follow the news, this game is confirmed to be on 4 DVDs.

Let us hope tri-Ace deliver the goods as the last lot of footage i did see of this it looked good so finger crossed .

Eh? I'm sorry but 7 thumbs down for saying Mistwalker won't ever make a game as good as Final Fantasy XIII? I'm not bashing the 360 (in fact I own one) but Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are just terribly bland, unoriginal games. I want everyone who gives me a thumbs down to give me one example of originality or innovation in either of those two games. Western RPGs like Mass Effect are blowing JRPGs out of the water this gen, I hope to God Tri-Ace do something interesting with this one or else I will begin to lose hope.

its available for preorder already. im gonna have to do that soon

SWEET!!!! Can't wait.

shows what they think of where the sony entertainment group is oging.

Rock on. More RPGs for the 360 is never a bad thing. Bring em on, squenix!

KingTuttle, exclusives are cheaper and faster to produce. Also, gameplay and engine features can be tuned to the strength of the machine to (perhaps) create a better experience. Of course, I'd think any of those other additional costs of going multi-platform would be more than offset by the additional sales that the other platform would bring. Maybe SE is getting direct funding from the console makers for their exlusive games, helping to offset their initial investment even more.

ohboy,oh boy;where are others:blah blah blah;they talk and great XBOX360 show the games;
we have the best in the next;

Why does any developer do exclusives anymore? Loyalty or not if I was a development house owner I would focus on 2 things: Making awesome games and getting those said games to as MANY people as possible in order to fund my staff, my wallet, and the next awesome game.

"Tri-Ace needs to get this game out the door so they can focus all their attention on Star Ocean 4."

More specifically, they need to get IU out and it needs to turn decent numbers so Square will finally have the guts to officially announce the multiplatform status of Star Ocean 4, instead of shrouding it in "mystery" (ie keeping alive the last shred of evidence to give those living in denial some hope to cling to).

I got a 360 for RPG, mostly WRPG since 360 is the best for that. But its nice to see that JRPG are making a strong push aswell. I'll probably wont get it with Fallout 3, Fable 2 and Sacred 2 being my RPG for late 2008 but i'll have something to save up for 2009.

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Screw this just put real FF on 360 if your not being biased in the "console wars".
Who cares anyway 360 has the creater of FF making games exclusively and they're much better than any FF game I've played since he left so that (if Japanese fans weren't racist) would but 360 in front on JRPG's.

Screen shots look hot.

It's good to hear they're willing to try some new material on the Xbox 360. The system can use some diversity considering that even it's biggest rpg is also a tactical fps. Naysayers take notice, Square Enix is showin' the love!

Tales of Vesperia I think i will get over this

I am so all over this

Eternal sonata, Blue dragon, lost odyssey, and now infinite undiscovery - excellent news that TriAce have done something for the 360, Grandia 3 was excellent. It's a great diversion from FPS plague that is happening on xbox. I like a good FPS, but do we really need that many?

Lets face it, we won't see FFXIII until late 2009 (if we're lucky) so the more new RPG IP's we can get, the better!