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GameCity '07: Rare talks Viva Piñata

The UK-based development team behind the 360 game explain how they came up with the idea to feature piñatas, and who did all the animal noises...
By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Oct 26, 2007 1:58 am PT

NOTTINGHAM--Viva Piñata evolved into the colourful, visually striking game it is because it was originally going to be released as a mobile phone game, Rare told attendees at Nottingham's GameCity event. Concept artist Ryan Stevenson showed the audience the screens from the original version, and said that although they successfully did what Rare set out to do, it just didn't excite them much.

Stevenson also explained how he came to the idea of using piñatas in the game. He said, "I looked at a variety of different things, including aboriginal art--I really liked the patterns, cave paintings, African sculpture animals, and the Mexican day of the dead festival." When he looked at the original drawings based on these influences they reminded him of something--a piñata he'd seen in a Mexican restaurant in New York.

Stevenson thinks it's important to do things this way as a concept artist. He told the audience that he thinks it's best to start with a clean slate, and avoid being influenced by other games and versions. Otherwise artists will just end up with a watered-down version of what they're emulating.

He also revealed that the Rare team became rather obsessed with the game during development. He said, "At the time we had a list of 140 animals and one of the designers had a board up with all the names and how they linked like a mad underground map...We even concepted what the game disc was going to look like. That's how obsessed we became."

He also let slip how a lot of the sound effects were made in the game. He laughed, "A lot of the noises are members of the team being put in a studio and told to do things like quack like a duck. It was lots of fun."

Of course, that game was only the beginning for the Viva Piñata franchise. Stevenson said, "It's a big IP--and it's only just beginning for us. We think it's got legs." Merchandising will follow, with piñata-themed toys going on sale in the US and UK, a cartoon which is currently being shown on the 4Kids TV network in the States, Viva Piñata: Party Animals coming out on the Xbox 360 for the holiday season, and a Nintendo DS version of the original game in the works.

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Genesis14

yeh this was a cool little presentation on viva pinata I was there nere the back listening to the guy talk, It was a laugh some of the time and I am looking forward to the DS version of the game myself ^^

Posted Dec 4, 2007 2:31 am PT
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MasterKakashi

I've been a huge fan of the company since I was little, way back when the '64 and S. Nes had just begun hit the market, their innovative games stole my heart away. From the bird-totting Banjo to the banana junkie Donkey Kong...Rare is nothing short of amazing. All of their games hold true to the word 'fun'. I've never thought a Rare game will/would disappoint me. I will aways stay true and always believe in the company I can't live without...LONG LIVE RARE! Don't ever give up!

Posted Nov 19, 2007 3:53 pm PT
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Zerosumgame

This game is overcute.

Posted Oct 29, 2007 8:07 pm PT
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Devvy01

sounds like a fun game, where's my stick?

Posted Oct 28, 2007 9:44 pm PT
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Nintendo_Man

I think it is vital for the game to sell on the DS, then you can call it a big IP.

Posted Oct 28, 2007 4:47 pm PT
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V-Nine

This game can't be all that bad since it refuses to die...heck I even watch the cartoon (it refuses to die also).

Posted Oct 28, 2007 12:37 pm PT
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Betaslayer

I still play viva pinata on 360 all the time, I just wish more ppl would understand colorful games can be for teens and adults. I mean this game would most likely overwhelm a small child when u rly think about.

Posted Oct 27, 2007 8:41 pm PT
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Lanowar

Viva Pinata? More like Video Game crack! I remember putting it in my tray at like 8 PM Christmas day going "I'll just have a go" then realizing it was 2 AM in the morning . The game is nothing short of addictive.

Posted Oct 27, 2007 3:42 pm PT
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sidious

I am a huge fan of the original Viva Pinata game and it makes me sad that it didn't hit the market in a huge way. I'm glad they haven't given up on the IP yet, but I hope they don't deny the fans a true sequel eventually, even if they have to release it for the Wii as well to recoup some costs. I'd still by the 360 version of said sequel, especially if they enhance the online features (ala letting us visit each others gardens or co-op a garden...). It is cool to see the franchise spin off into party games, or racing games or whatever... just don't go to long without taking a chance on a true sequel. Yes, some improvements could be made to the formula, but the core experience is strong and the franchise could still grow with enough support.

Posted Oct 27, 2007 1:52 pm PT
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okassar

Lol, Viva Pinata owns any "casual game" for the Wii.

Posted Oct 27, 2007 1:13 pm PT
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ardandil

yo pienso que viva piñata rulea!!!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 7:27 pm PT
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MasterChief725

Rare....is awesome...Viva Pinata...is awesome.....Banjo-Kazooie and Perfect Dark.....are REALLY awesome! Go Rare!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 5:42 pm PT
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polsci1503

i'd like to see a proper sequel with different pinatas. It would be cool if you could wander past your own patch a bit and get close to the outer buildings.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 4:13 pm PT
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lamprey263

@Akillathenun - plus, DS lovers may like Viva Pinata so much they'd be willing to pick up an X360, maybe

Posted Oct 26, 2007 1:40 pm PT
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aka1986

they can't do 007 because i think activision has to rights to that now. but they should release banjo news and make a worthy PD sequel true to the n64 title.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 1:17 pm PT
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Akillathenun

"I'm confused. How can Rare make games for the DS if they are owned by Microsoft?"

Microsoft make money from each Rare game, and since they would make more money from 360 games being sold (licensing), than Wii/ PS3 games (no payment for making game disks, etc), but they have no handheld, so it makes sense for them to release where there is no competition to make 'some' money, rather than not getting any at all

Posted Oct 26, 2007 12:53 pm PT
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the_monkey_god

Viva was good but it got old rather fast. They should go back a do a better perfect perfect dark game. Because Zero was horribly bad. A new conker would be great or even a new bond!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 12:22 pm PT
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MrSickVisionz

I think they are only 2nd party with MS. With some IPs being partly owned by MS and others belonging to Rare.

I remember when I bought my N64 solely because of Rare games and they were a company that always made really good games. Now they're just another developer... who makes mediocre titles or good games in genres i'm not interested in.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 12:20 pm PT
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kavadias1981

I'm confused. How can Rare make games for the DS if they are owned by Microsoft? Someone answer please.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 12:14 pm PT
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SmArTaLeC1321

Ya i rather have any other of their titles like a new Perfect Dark, Banjo, or Conker!!!!!!!!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 12:14 pm PT
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LordGamer0001

viva pinata has been attracting me with its bright colors and what not. maybe i should try it out.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:45 am PT
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arc_salvo

I like what Rare is doing for Microsoft, and I'll admit that if I like any of the Big 3 game developers, it's Microsoft... but I still think that Rare would be better off as a Third Party able to develop for Nintendo or actually being owned by Nintendo itself. There's just too much good history between Rare and Nintendo to just dismiss out of hand.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:41 am PT
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GreasyFetus69

I want a new CONKER!!!!!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:39 am PT
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darknferno12

obsession isn't a good thing but for people making my games obsession (on a game) is great, it's nice to see the developers getting into the game so they'll actually make a good game and I never played Viva Pinata but now i think i'll buy it.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:36 am PT
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Generic_Dude

We need DLC... more pinatas, buildings, goals and achievements, please!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:36 am PT
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Chris_Potter

Where's my Pinata 2, Rare?!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:31 am PT
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zgreenwell

Viva Pinata is a great game, and as much as I love it on the 360 the DS version is where this game really feels right. Being able to take it with you is a big enough advantage, but the touch controls would suit this game really well. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 11:05 am PT
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PlasmaBeam44

Rare pretty much WAS my childhood. There games on the N64 are some of my favorites.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 10:54 am PT
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3KindgomsRandy

You know what'd be really great? If Rare made a new Perfect Dark game that was worth a damn. The first one was, as the name implies, perfect (well almost).

That aside, I love Viva Pinata and hope there is a sequel in the future.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 10:51 am PT
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zeecorner

Game was amazing, too bad not that many people played it...
Sometimes I wonder whether Rare was a good fit for Microsoft, probably should have spent that money on Bioware or Irrational or something...

Posted Oct 26, 2007 10:48 am PT
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caybeirwouleyfe

thrashunreal, I think Rare would have left MS to become a third paty (just for the sake of making nintendo games) a long time ago if they couldn't make DS games. Deep down inside I think they miss nintendo and they want to make a Wii game.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 10:48 am PT
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thrashunreal

"Thsi game screams Wii, MS needs to let Rare do it."

I've been thinking that all along. My god. It'd be beautiful on the Wii.

But seriously. I wish Rare would stop talking Viva Pinata and start talking Banjo-Threeie... or talk signing off of MS and signing back with Nintendo. That'd be great. NINTENDO NEEDS A NEW GOOD DONKEY KONG GAME!!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 10:23 am PT
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aisufi

this game really is a cool game. really

Posted Oct 26, 2007 9:37 am PT
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kori911

Thsi game screams Wii, MS needs to let Rare do it.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 9:31 am PT
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Maxdriva

viva pinata + DS = $$$$$

Posted Oct 26, 2007 9:27 am PT
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Warfust

I may pick up the DS version when it comes out.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 9:26 am PT
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drangel_jam

The whole thing has quality, even the anime series, however, it lack a little bit of charisma, maybe it's because I'm not into children's cartoons.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 8:42 am PT
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xxxWigginsxxx

I really enjoyed this game as well. I'm 23 and found this game to be very addicing. It's one of those games that didn't really sell well and make a mainstream splash, but is actually a really good game.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 8:35 am PT
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EXxile

This game was actually a great game. Indeed, I did feel a little wierd when i first started playing it, but I adapted. Its a shame alot of people didn't get to realize that due to their "its a kids game" ideal. In my eyes, Its too complex to be a child's game, and the graphics are beautiful.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 8:24 am PT
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Pfilosophy

Bring on boatloads of VP, I don't mind one bit!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 7:44 am PT
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ebookerd1

I have an appreciation for this game I really enjoyed it a lot personally. It just allows the 360 to reach more people and that is what really counts. better games for everyone. I want this franchise to go on for a long while. Like Mario.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 7:39 am PT
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pigfish2

i see it as a good franchise for all ages but the game could be to hard for kids so I wouldn't call it kiddy

Posted Oct 26, 2007 6:49 am PT
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FlashCharge

It is a very kid friendly game and could be a great educational game if taken in the right direction. Parents would be more willing to go this video game route and it is a direction that xbox should pursue. it would expand their market.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 6:46 am PT
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carljohnson3456

Viva Pinata was ok. I didnt like it like I thought I would.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 6:28 am PT
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club-sandwich

damn, I want some Banjo 3 news

Posted Oct 26, 2007 5:42 am PT
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sprsnc24

I love Viva Pinata, and I'm glad that Rare is finally starting to regain the recognition they had back in the N64 days, but I want some more Banjo-Threeie news, dammit!

Posted Oct 26, 2007 4:56 am PT
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Lord_Artix

It's cool that the 360 got a title that's family friendly, but imo this game really would have fit better on a Nintendo system. The DS outing should do good things for this franchise.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 4:43 am PT
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JustWiicredible

Nice to see orginal family IPs on the 360. Gamers don't just want play FPS and Driving games.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 4:15 am PT
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Sagacious_Tien

I love this game - and I sincerly hope more is on the way.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 4:05 am PT
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SpigleyMcCheese

You have to love a game which can make you say the word "Bunnycomb" without feeling like a prat.

Posted Oct 26, 2007 3:56 am PT
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