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Report: Sony facing massive PS3 losses

Analysts estimate game division could post quarterly loss of $1 billion, according to Bloomberg report.

Sony is expected to report its quarterly earnings tomorrow, and a group of analysts are bracing for bad numbers, according to a Bloomberg.com report. The financial news site obtained predictions of Sony's quarterly results from 11 industry analysts, and the group's median estimates for the electronics giant were a company-wide loss of 75.8 billion yen ($630 million), with revenues up 9.5 percent to 2.02 trillion yen ($16.8 billion).

As for the culprit behind those projected losses, they appear to be due to the game division and then some. Bloomberg said responses from five of the analysts pegged Sony's game group as posting a quarterly loss of 121 billion yen ($1 billion), completely wiping out expected profits from the rest of the company's divisions. The gaming business more than offset gains from Bravia HDTVs and the box office performance of Spider-Man 3, according to the report.

796 Comments

  • sickside6

    Posted Feb 2, 2008 4:44 pm GMT

    no surprise

  • theKSMM

    Posted Jun 2, 2007 7:49 pm GMT

    There's no real surprise here. Sony is still sucking up R&D costs on the PlayStation 3, and the launch costs sure didn't help things any. But the only thing that's going to help Sony sell PS3s in volume is a price drop. I don't care how many killer games come out, the system won't sell well at its current price. Get it under $500, and people will think about it. Get it under $400, and you've got a killer deal.

  • SilV3RSix

    Posted May 21, 2007 12:19 pm GMT

    Holden1985 "The PS3 is scheduled to have a much longer life than the other 2 current systems on the market. It's only expected to have first year losses because software titles are coming this fall."

    The PS2 has something like 120 million units sold in the face of generally flawed approaches by its competitors. MSoft gaffed with the finances, Nintendo just gaffed in general. And then there was Sega *hocking a loogey* The PS3 doesn't have the luxury of bumbling opponents this time, and with its price point it doesnt stand a snow balls chance up a horses rear of hanging around as long as the PS2 has.

    "But 1 Billion US in a quarter is still better than Xbox's 4.5 Billion/year losses since launch."

    They didn't lose 4.5 billion per year. They lost about 5 Billion TOTAL. According to the report Sony just released, the gaming division reported a $2 billion dollar loss over 1 year, with $1 billion coming in 3 months. If you think thats better than losing $5 Billion over 4 years, you need to put new batteries in your calculator. In general terms, I'd say a software company that generates about $13 billion dollars in annual profit and then loses $5 billion opening a hardware division is a smidge better off than a hardware company that generates $1 billion dollars in annual profit and loses $2 billion dollars making hardware.

  • viewjet

    Posted May 17, 2007 5:56 pm GMT

    PS3....mmmhh. Sony is going to have to come up with a Wii type of wireless motion control. They did this before when they adjusted their controller to match the N64 force feedback rumble pack feature. Remember the Dual Shock. I'm telling you, if Sony gets a more engaging control scheme that actually works (not like the eye toy, or the 6axis), they are back in business. The all purpose entertainment power of the PS3 will take care of the rest.

  • Chi-You-Man

    Posted May 17, 2007 4:14 pm GMT

    Ha ha, take that sony, stupid morons

  • Holden1985

    Posted May 17, 2007 1:38 pm GMT

    The PS3 is scheduled to have a much longer life than the other 2 current systems on the market. It's only expected to have first year losses because software titles are coming this fall. But 1 Billion US in a quarter is still better than Xbox's 4.5 Billion/year losses since launch. They have YET to turn a profit. (Ahhh Wikipedia). Don't forget that 70% of HD movie sales for the 1st quarter were blu-ray. Version2.0 of the PS3s interface (XMB) is just around the corner, bringing the online service one step closer to live. Home will be out for fall. By this time next year, I would hope sony has their movie/music download service attatched to the PS store. (Station.com). Oh, & "you can't deny METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS"

    I know how can you it would be like denying The Holocaust !!

  • robinson679

    Posted May 17, 2007 7:23 am GMT

    politicas absurdas de ventas y burla a ls consumidores y ademas por demorar la salida de juegos

  • akka

    Posted May 17, 2007 6:29 am GMT

    Sony will survive since they do more than consoles. Their TVs rock, no doubt and their cameras are great. Sony just needs to find out what to do with the PS3 to help it get off the ground since right now, the PS3 is no real competition to the Xbox 360. What would change that is if Sony and its developers all started making GOOD games for the PS3. Just one killer ap - ala Halo style - and the PS3 could get going again.

  • LOWJ000

    Posted May 17, 2007 5:23 am GMT

    Smart remark jamalnos. Competition between consoles is absolutely good for the consumer if you don't want to spend an arm and a leg. I'm not a Sony fan but I know they will survive. I just hope they get left behind this gen and reevaluate ever releasing a console with such a high price tag, and forcing a format war down out throats. What's with the super long post? I wrote 8 lines and though i was to much.

  • TTDog

    Posted May 17, 2007 1:19 am GMT

    "s_king7: Why are people still buying a seven year old system i mean there better hardware now, which proves you wrong. Look man the majority which is very great know the hardware difference is not that great which is why most people don't go off buying another graphics, sound card they would most likely buy a top spec one first time. So yeah PS3 is going to be here for like 10 years. "

    People are still buying the PS2 as its cheap and they are still getting games like God2 and FF12, and if the PS3 or 360 had a top spec graphics set up then they'd be able to handle Crysis... which they aren't. So the hardware in both the 360 and Ps3 has already been surpassed graphics wise... and you still think it'll be up there with the top stuff in 4 years? It may well last 10 years but the last 5 or 6 will be as a last-gen console where the software support (if it ever arrives) dwindles to kids games and shoddy ports (a bit likt enow really).

  • jamalnos

    Posted May 17, 2007 12:03 am GMT

    PS3 must always be in the battlefield against XBOX 360 because if PS3 got out, XBOX 360 will **** us all of us like chickens in prices and will control the world of games. so the competition must be always exist for more entertainment and more available options for us the customers.

  • NeoNavarro

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:18 pm GMT

    I really hope Sony figures things out soon.

  • gamepunk86

    Posted May 16, 2007 9:43 pm GMT

    sony is a multi-billion company they'll find a way to profits again

  • UrbanMessiah

    Posted May 16, 2007 7:29 pm GMT

    "Your rant is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. "

    Words to live by, geto...Words to live by. -=x

  • getoconnection

    Posted May 16, 2007 6:26 pm GMT

    getoconnection

    @ bone1264 WOW. Where to begin?? Well I guess this post is old news considering the News Sony Fans had to endure today. But alas, MY BEEF IS OLD TOO. I don't let any argument rest. bone1264 said @ GETOCONNECTION--Maybe I'm not censored because you tend to reinforce my point. I did perhaps make the mistake in my post of limiting my criticism to gamespot. GETO SAID--Such is the immediate rationale of a ranting FANBOY. I'm sure they'll forgive you.
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    But, as gamespot points out, "Report: Sony facing massive PS3 losses," and "a group of analysts are bracing for bad numbers." What does massive ps3 losses mean? GETO said - i.e. 2 billion dollars, 7 hundred million a month, 175 million a week, 25 million a day, 1 million an hour, 17,000 dollars per second. I don't know about you but I'd be pretty concerned with the knowledge that every second that goes by 17,000 dollars goes up in smoke with no new games in site. Yeah, I know it is normal. lol
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    A big boat full of them hit an iceberg? Ps3 sale = loss, plain and simple. I don't know how you can possibly conclude anything else, (oh I concur, but to you it's no big deal right?) so ps3 has expanded their base more. GETO said--Wow, user base lets see, I will round for the sake of not being a complete A hole, 4 million users since November, 7 hundred thousand a month, 27 thousand a week, 4,000 a day, 160 an hour, 3 a minute, .05 a second. I guess for every 17,000 dollars they lost, they had a customer riding the fence!! lol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Now, getaconnection, you may ask, "but loss = bad, gain = good, right?" No. Geto said--I have to ask again, where you get the stuff you are smokin'because I want some!!
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    Also, a group of analysts are bracing for bad numbers--no where in the article does it use the term "bad numbers." (guess we got the answer on this) It only says that stringer will come under scrutiny for basically failing to effectively offset ps3 losses. Ken has already resigned for ps3 blunders--Stringer has no control over this really. Geto said--if he said he could get the job done in the interview then he deserves everything coming to him. Taking a shot at Ken didnt help either. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I criticize gamespot for the simplistic tone in their wording of their article, going beyond "just reporting the news", meant to incite "factually challenged discussions" (better?) Geto said--Ha Ha! Nice one! What an oxymoron! Where are the facts backing up your "loss equals bad and gain equals good. NO" argument. I this case a 2 billion dollar loss could easily balloon into 4 billion if the consumer does not think your product is worth the price tag. To me that is bad.
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    such as this. But additionally, the Bloomberg article states that "PlayStation 3 is being outsold by Wii by about two to one, causing Sony's game division, its second-largest by revenue, to post a fourth-quarter loss of 121 billion yen." This statement makes no sense whatsoever. Geto said--THEN FLAME ON BLOOMBERG’S WEBSITE!!! Flaming a site that just copy/pasted an article is as pointless as your previous rant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    It makes four times as much sense to argue that the ps3 and wii are not in the same market and therefore not substitute goods, which would undercut the above statement intrinsically. Geto said--That was the best statement of this rant although the masses wont perceive it that way. It just looks as if the NEXT generation of NINTENDO machines is beating the mess out of the NEXT generation of SONY machines. SPECS make no difference to them. Despite being awesome games, Metal Gear and Final Fantasy will not save the PS3 because the said masses would rather play the Grand Theft Autos and Maddens on a cheaper systems. Your rant is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. (side note-why is it that the Wii is compared to other next gen machines when it comes to SPECS but not when it comes to sales and numbers? Lol Sony Fanboys) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    "Bad numbers" (i.e. massive loses, however you want to cut it) and buy rating would seem odd in the same article, don't you think? geto said--No. It just shows how abysmal the overall picture is for Sony when compared to a system that was released in the same time frame. And since you failed to back up your "Wii is not in the same market" argument with any concrete facts, I consider the comparison justifiable. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    (Oh right, bad numbers isn't there....but massive loss is) The only justifiable criticism for sony's game division is that they did not sell enough games to offset console losses. Geto said--And with MGS on hold until next year, I got a simple equation for you. NO MGS + FF FOR CHRISTMAS = ANOTHER 2 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS FOR SONY. Bottom line no games sold, no systems sold, consecutive billion dollar losses, but that's normal right? lol
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    Well, if you're an xbox360 fan, you would probably be sympathetic to this because this is basically the story of their first year. Geto said--I am but I don't have any sympathy. My 360 works perfectly and I didn't have to sit on my hands for months after launch, I was catching up on the games I hadn't finished on the Cube/PS2. I'm a gamer at heart.

    People are ancy because Sony would have to garner unprecedented sales to offset their pioneer strategy of marketing a high-end good in a gouge war. geto says --Not so pioneer. The 3DO used a similar strategy. Sadly, it's not with us anymore. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    The analysts in this article need to spend more time formulating conclusions from their econometric models and less time reading posts on gamespot.
    geto said--I won't comment on the last comment.

  • leimeisei

    Posted May 16, 2007 5:14 pm GMT

    [This message has been deleted at the request of a moderator or an administrator]. No no, jk. I have a few things to say:

    1. Anyone who compares PS3 to 360 and says "PS3 is failing cause it brags about its hardware but no games use it yet" is an idiot, and they should go pick up an early XBOX 360 game and play it. I think you will find that it also does not use the full potential of the 360.

    2. If you have not seen the bias in most of the Gamespot writers that they tend to have, then either you are extremely new to GameSpot, or you have just recently woken up from a coma.

    3. PS3s are costing great amounts of cash to Sony, and they will be in great trouble if they don't figure out a way to start making a profit on the things, or at least not lose as much money per system.

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    In the ideal world, Microsoft would buy sony and they would both place their ideas together: Microsoft and their games/online features, and sony and their hardware. That would be the most pimpin console on the face of this earth, son.

    that is all.

  • s_king7

    Posted May 16, 2007 4:27 pm GMT

    wastenotwantnot i agree with what you saying got me thinking but i don't think they were surprised to a big extent i mean a company of its size hell no. but you seen the actual report?

    TTDog

    Why are people still buying a seven year old system i mean there better hardware now, which proves you wrong. Look man the majority which is very great know the hardware difference is not that great which is why most people don't go off buying another graphics, sound card they would most likely buy a top spec one first time. So yeah PS3 is going to be here for like 10 years.

  • punfect

    Posted May 16, 2007 4:19 pm GMT

    Austin7591 said: "I hate to say it, but Sony is in bad shape. I won't just beat them on the head with negativity. Aside from the technical boastings that the system(ps3) has, there isn't 1 single game that actually makes use of the refined technology that was bragged about so much.

    I remember right before the ps2 came out, there was plenty of buzz about the emotion chip and the capabilities of the system. During launch, there were about 17 games in total that were ps2 games that accompanied the system. The ps3 had about 12. Here is the major difference. At least 5 of those ps2 games were worthwhile enough to make people actually want to spend their money and get a system even if they were not the killer aps that everyone thought that they were. So far on the ps3, there is only about 2 or 3 games that look okay but nothing completely attempts to show off something about the system. Despite all the praise that GOW2 received(and was well deserving of), it is quite sad when people are saying that a game made for a 6 to 7 year old system that is on its way out, looks better than a new generation system with the technical aspects of a super theater.

    Here the thing, Sony really needs to refocus and soon or else they may end up gracefully bowing out of the console business. Lets remember that they would have nothing to be ashamed of as the ps2 actually sold 118 million unit worldwide. That says something pretty big especially in the Japanese market where MS hasn't even pierced through yet.

    Firstly, letting out some news about the rumble feature coming back would be wise. Not so much a time frame as I do understand that there are technical issues that will cost a boatload of money to fix. Consider the fact that if they did want to have the rumble feature back on the market by fall, that some of the games that they are banking in on selling the system would have to be completely redone to include memory of a rumble feature in them. Then there is testing and so forth.

    Secondly, don't let anything pass under the radar just for the sake of having it out. NBA 07 was ugly and clumsy. Motorstorm was okay but still felt incomplete like they would have added more but due to time constraints, they couldn't. Invest the time in their products to reclaim their credibility on the street and all over the world. Put out at least 5 quality games out of the 20 that come out like they did with the ps2. And just a side note, the ps2 did well because for the 2 to 3 major titles that did come out on the Xbox, ps2 had 6 titles that were both major and above average.

    Third, make an attempt to lower prices. Sounds simple but realistically speaking, it can be done but at the lack of certain features. Look at what they did in the UK by taking out the emotion chip that enabled the backwards compatibility and emulate it instead. That helps. I can say that the real problem though was including the Blu-ray drive in all of the systems. If that was not included, you could have been looking at an average price of about 275 to 415 which would still have been in range of the Wii and the 360. But honestly, for now, I would tell anyone don't get their hopes up. Sony has plenty of cleaning up to do and as the article just read, the less money that they put out is the happier they will be.

    Finally, they should work with subtlety more. I remember all of the announcements and the hype and the press conferences. Sony fails to realize that not so much fanboys, but even casual gamers were hurt and offended because half of the things that they claimed was going to happen or be included in the system never was. BC for ps2 and psOne games didn't happen immediately. I have someone that I know that bought the ps3 recently and still had about 4 ps2 games that they wanted to open and play but they didn't work on the system. The online system sucks. PSN is not really that great. The menus are weird, it certainly is not user friendly, and it freezes on occasion. Even the bluetooth pads disconnect from time to time although not often, this still makes a product not certain. If they would start to treat the consumers like they have sense and won't just settle for your product because you think that we just can't do any better, then things would change. Remember, that although it is a nice form of entertainment, people don't have to spend their hard earned money. And that is another reason why you see the Wii is doing so well. 360 is a great system but again, if people have a price point they are working with, they go with the most for their bucks despite quality this and that.

    I do hope that this is the beginning of change though with Sony and not the end. I see a replica of Sega happnening here and it would be a shame to lose a system that is so powerful just because the companies ego got bigger that it should have."

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Well said Austin7591...Well said indeed!

  • comthitnuong

    Posted May 16, 2007 4:01 pm GMT

    Ouch, if this is true, I hope Sony can step up. Or maybe we will see executives begin to leave?

  • Tairun

    Posted May 16, 2007 3:33 pm GMT

    It was expected. Also Microsoft when first releasing the original Xbox, they've been having losses early also. Even when the 360 first came out there weren't many launch games and in my opinion any really worthwhile games until later. Same goes for the PS3 they'll lose money early on and with Sony having released there dev kits later than 360, there have been lot's of games delayed on ps3. Just wait till later this year there will be more of those highly anticipated games coming for ps3 ^_^.

  • Sil3ntStRik3R

    Posted May 16, 2007 3:26 pm GMT

    o my goodness dont the people that just post something so bias and stupid have something to due do they have a live...man...sony isnt done...they will be okay like ms did back when it realesed the x box...trust me...

  • redxwarriorxxx

    Posted May 16, 2007 3:05 pm GMT

    It's almost time to buy Sony stock.

  • Austin7591

    Posted May 16, 2007 2:31 pm GMT

    I hate to say it, but Sony is in bad shape. I won't just beat them on the head with negativity. Aside from the technical boastings that the system(ps3) has, there isn't 1 single game that actually makes use of the refined technology that was bragged about so much.

    I remember right before the ps2 came out, there was plenty of buzz about the emotion chip and the capabilities of the system. During launch, there were about 17 games in total that were ps2 games that accompanied the system. The ps3 had about 12. Here is the major difference. At least 5 of those ps2 games were worthwhile enough to make people actually want to spend their money and get a system even if they were not the killer aps that everyone thought that they were. So far on the ps3, there is only about 2 or 3 games that look okay but nothing completely attempts to show off something about the system. Despite all the praise that GOW2 received(and was well deserving of), it is quite sad when people are saying that a game made for a 6 to 7 year old system that is on its way out, looks better than a new generation system with the technical aspects of a super theater.

    Here the thing, Sony really needs to refocus and soon or else they may end up gracefully bowing out of the console business. Lets remember that they would have nothing to be ashamed of as the ps2 actually sold 118 million unit worldwide. That says something pretty big especially in the Japanese market where MS hasn't even pierced through yet.

    Firstly, letting out some news about the rumble feature coming back would be wise. Not so much a time frame as I do understand that there are technical issues that will cost a boatload of money to fix. Consider the fact that if they did want to have the rumble feature back on the market by fall, that some of the games that they are banking in on selling the system would have to be completely redone to include memory of a rumble feature in them. Then there is testing and so forth.

    Secondly, don't let anything pass under the radar just for the sake of having it out. NBA 07 was ugly and clumsy. Motorstorm was okay but still felt incomplete like they would have added more but due to time constraints, they couldn't. Invest the time in their products to reclaim their credibility on the street and all over the world. Put out at least 5 quality games out of the 20 that come out like they did with the ps2. And just a side note, the ps2 did well because for the 2 to 3 major titles that did come out on the Xbox, ps2 had 6 titles that were both major and above average.

    Third, make an attempt to lower prices. Sounds simple but realistically speaking, it can be done but at the lack of certain features. Look at what they did in the UK by taking out the emotion chip that enabled the backwards compatibility and emulate it instead. That helps. I can say that the real problem though was including the Blu-ray drive in all of the systems. If that was not included, you could have been looking at an average price of about 275 to 415 which would still have been in range of the Wii and the 360. But honestly, for now, I would tell anyone don't get their hopes up. Sony has plenty of cleaning up to do and as the article just read, the less money that they put out is the happier they will be.

    Finally, they should work with subtlety more. I remember all of the announcements and the hype and the press conferences. Sony fails to realize that not so much fanboys, but even casual gamers were hurt and offended because half of the things that they claimed was going to happen or be included in the system never was. BC for ps2 and psOne games didn't happen immediately. I have someone that I know that bought the ps3 recently and still had about 4 ps2 games that they wanted to open and play but they didn't work on the system. The online system sucks. PSN is not really that great. The menus are weird, it certainly is not user friendly, and it freezes on occasion. Even the bluetooth pads disconnect from time to time although not often, this still makes a product not certain. If they would start to treat the consumers like they have sense and won't just settle for your product because you think that we just can't do any better, then things would change. Remember, that although it is a nice form of entertainment, people don't have to spend their hard earned money. And that is another reason why you see the Wii is doing so well. 360 is a great system but again, if people have a price point they are working with, they go with the most for their bucks despite quality this and that.

    I do hope that this is the beginning of change though with Sony and not the end. I see a replica of Sega happnening here and it would be a shame to lose a system that is so powerful just because the companies ego got bigger that it should have.

  • KingovGames

    Posted May 16, 2007 2:30 pm GMT

    I got a genius idea to save the Sony PS3! Lower your price to $400! People will start buying it instead of the Xbox360 and all the games will start heading over to you. I'm a genius, just saved Sony.

  • mariokart64fan

    Posted May 16, 2007 1:38 pm GMT

    nintendo will take over the lead !!!! sony should lower price if they ever want to come back

  • GrimBee

    Posted May 16, 2007 1:26 pm GMT

    SOny can lose billions, what really counts is word of mouth... if sony can clear up the word of mouth about new playstation products (i.e psp and ps3) then they will succeed...

    The key to gaining loads of cash is to be reputable. Somehow, I think people are feeling like the ps3 is too much of t he same kinda story of the psp. Hence the wii surge...

    If sony can change their ad campaigns and stuff, bring out some extraordinary games which are fashionable and fun and steal the genre, then sony will be onto a winner.

    If sony can't do that, then they will leave too many doors open for the competition to muzzle in on those markets. The ps2 catered for all kinds of gamers. Offering things like BUZZ and eyetoy and lightgun games for a cheaper than the competition price..
    But now... ps3 is too expensive.

    Fair enough, ps2 was expensive at launch, but it was the first out next to the gamecube and the xbox. By the time those came out, it dropped its price to almost half and had well over 100 games.

    Ps3 should create good word of mouth first. Offer a great service.

    I mean, some of the most impressive things my friends liked about my 360 (when I had it) was that you simply plug in an ipod to the xbox 360, and listen to your music whilst you game (and it removes the game music too).

    Ease of use, great quality, nice price... those things go down well.

    At the mo I think sony has no GREAT games which define the console, the online isn't such a great service, and all those hidden charges that have not been clarified as yet. If sony don't clear this up soon, then the competition will show us how its done and steal that market from sony.

    I hope sony can get their act together. Even though they released late, they should still act twice as hard as any other console, because thats why the ps2 was released early - to give the late-comers a hard time.

    Ps2 won because it got the goods done first. This is the only way, imo that the ps3 will increase its market share.

  • runbmp

    Posted May 16, 2007 1:09 pm GMT

    Yeah, magnificent hardware but poor support. In fact movie industries have dumped the idea of making movies all together for the UMD format.

    I can't even sell mine anymore... :-(

  • 02sfraser

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:42 pm GMT

    Totally not suprised. Although it had huge success at launch its following the fate of the PSP but has a even grimmer future than that.

  • iuns

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:34 pm GMT

    expected

  • comunsex

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:23 pm GMT

    NINTENDO is the big winner

  • KingovGames

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:19 pm GMT

    oh cool, if you keep refreshing your page you will get an advertisment at the top right of this page for a free PS3. I guess they're giving them away now since no one wants to buy them, thinking you'll buy their games. But the problem is there are no games. So I don't think I'll even request one.

  • comunsex

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:17 pm GMT

    I am happy. Another DREAMCAST yet

  • BajenVaNamnet

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:17 pm GMT

    "Sony will be fine. This is a very long generation. We need to stop listening to analysts BTW."

    Word!

  • KingovGames

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:14 pm GMT

    In a year? By May of next year they won't be around. They will have stopped production of the PS3. hahaha

  • Zaheero

    Posted May 16, 2007 12:13 pm GMT

    Question: Why is it the a basic PC ten year ago cost £1000 and a console cost about £200 then, yet now you can get a pc for cheaper than a console{i'm talking to you PS3} bearing in mind that computer parts have gone down in price?

  • LOGGER13

    Posted May 16, 2007 11:36 am GMT

    @Yuck_Foo

    You know I've seen you post in pretty much every article about the PS3, of course slamming it every time. Don't you have a job? Do you really care about the PS3 that much if you don't even own one?

  • maxsteel86

    Posted May 16, 2007 11:30 am GMT

    You jacka$$ fanboys slagging off Sony... even if the PS3 were to completely flop to hell, you think Sony will pull out of the games business? That industry made them a boatload of money, they know what it can do. They'll be around no matter how the PS3 ends up. Live with it

  • runbmp

    Posted May 16, 2007 11:30 am GMT

    lot of gamers are attacking games, because its important right now. Microsoft knows this and as a result has been hacking away at Sony's 3rd party developers.

    Its no different when Sony came in the industry to joust Sega of gaming hardware. They knew the relationship between devs and Sega was horrid and therefor created a friendly dev platform and built themselves on that relationship.

    This is just history repeating itself, this time MS has the money to force it down their throats. Gamers however should hope that MS will keep listening attentively to us and at times reward us for being loyal.

    Sony just got over confident, especially when they claimed themselves "the next generation". gamers are Sony, We decide when it starts.

  • TTDog

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:53 am GMT

    @s_king7; Are you seriously saying that in the next 3 or 4 years there won't be better hardware around than is in the PS3? Or that Sony can update the out of date hardware with a little downloadable update? How deluded is that?

    The chances of the PS3 hardware still being up to date in 4 years time are miniscule, why do you think PC owners keep having to update sound and graphics cards every 9 months or so when the new uber-game hits the streets, hardware is advancing so quickly saying a consoles hardware will last 10 years is way too optimistic... but that the "10 year lifespan" came from Krazy Ken, the same man who said PS3 would deliver "4d Graphics" so you can hardly expect anything the man said to be gospel.

  • dandeanuk

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:52 am GMT

    This is for all you people who are slagging of sony and saying they have no good games. Give it a year then pass judgement, did the 360 have gears of war at launch -NO! Did it have ghost recon - NO! People please get a grip and give them a freakin chance. Remember the ps2? the best game at launch was SSX and timesplitters which were ok. Now look at all the cracking 9/10 games that came out in the following years. Don't you people have a memory it takes a long timem probably at least a year before you get knock out games on any system. So just shut the **** up I'm sick of listening to you lot bleat on about the same bloody thing. And before you start saying I'm a fanboy, I've got a 360, and will be getting a ps3 in about a year. Also the the majority of Sonys loss is due to the fact that they sell the ps3 at a huge loss, so we are in fact getting a bargain, all reviewers say that the play back of the ps3 blu-ray is superior to that of £1000 ($2100) (yes the british pound it giving the yankee dollar the best kicking of its life) stand alone machines. I rest my frickin case! Oh yeah I forgot who has just released the most expensive film ever made...erm its Sony! They are gonna be fine!

  • anamnawshad

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:46 am GMT

    Poor $ony Game Division........

  • wild_world_girl

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:38 am GMT

    Sony will be fine. This is a very long generation. We need to stop listening to analysts BTW.

  • jimboboklashaur

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:36 am GMT

    it's hard for me to keep supporting sony when sony isn't making good games. give me something worth buying and maybe i'll actually buy it.

  • Yuck_Too

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:34 am GMT

    --rockybob --
    Some would say Wii Sports and the Zelda's are more then enough reason to get it.

    Or you could spend 2x more and get a PS3 and be playing what exactly?

  • runbmp

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:30 am GMT

    KingovGames
    " I don't have to pay for a Blu-Ray player RIGHT now to have a PS3. This will be seen as one of console histories biggest blunders."

    Yeah, along with 3DO and CDI... Unfortunately they did the exact same thing years ago with a price tag similar to what ps3 has right now.

    But it was all about games, and in the end they did not have a diversified enough library of games.

  • sworder

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:30 am GMT

    LLsmooth, you're overrating the Wii... possibly the same thing that happened with PS3. People by the Wii to play Nintendo games. If you want ANY other game not made by Nintendo, especially games available on other platforms, Wii is probably the worst choice to pick it up for.

    That's the main reason why Wii won't win the console war. It's good, and it sells a lot, but as MS said in one of their previous interviews about Home and Nintendo, they aren't really any major threat to MS or Sony.

  • rockybob

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:21 am GMT

    Besides Wii Sports and Zelda.. what games are there for the Wii?

  • aisufi

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:19 am GMT

    i guess why people hate on the PS3 so much is because the expectations for the PS3 were much higher then the X360. right now the X360 has overachieved in all areas (games, online, price) while the PS3 has grossly underachieved. If Halo 3 turns out to be only "pretty good" and get a score of 8.5 it probably will be labled as the most dissapointing game ever, even though 8.5 is a great score. But us as gamers dont want the PS3 to be only pretty good, we wanted it to be a 10! Groundbreaking! The King of all consoles! But that didnt even come close to happening. Sony seems to be a victim of it's own hype.

  • LLsmooth

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:19 am GMT

    Nintendo does not need to release another console in 3 years. In 3 years the Wii will be in full command of the market and have a lot of games on the shelves.

    It is about the games.. not 480p, 1080p, HD TV's. It is about fun games.

    Think about your favorite game ever... was it in HD?

  • Yuck_Too

    Posted May 16, 2007 10:15 am GMT

    Sony's Game Division actually lost $1.969 Billion this 1/4.

    But their other divisions posted profits and cut that down.

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