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Gates: Nintendo our "toughest" foe

Microsoft chairman cites the "surprising" strength of the DS and Wii as the biggest challenge to Xbox 360 supremacy.

When it comes to console rivalries, many think the most bitter feud is between Sony and Microsoft. Apparently Bill Gates doesn't. In an interview with Japanese TV at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, the Microsoft chairman and world's richest man says he sees another console maker as the Xbox 360's primary rival.

"The strength of Nintendo...in the portable space, has been very impressive," Gates said in a video interview currently viewable on YouTube. "[It's] surprised a lot of people, I think, [that] and the Wii. We see Nintendo as our toughest competition."

Given that the interview was with Tokyo TV, it is possible Gates' comments were about the Japanese market, where the Xbox 360 trails far behind both the PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii. Naturally, many fanboys have taken Gates' comments as another indicator of Sony's greatly exaggerated demise. That viewpoint, though, overlooks the possibility Gates was intentionally slighting Sony in public as part of its ongoing war of words with the electronics giant.

1024 Comments

  • Gameslayer3

    Posted Feb 11, 2007 11:28 am GMT

    sonys dead with out a lower price tag for the ps3. dont they relize that there only losing money.

  • Ant0ny0

    Posted Jan 21, 2007 5:15 pm GMT

    LOL, you are right Gates xD!!

  • Agelu

    Posted Jan 21, 2007 2:13 pm GMT

    Funny stuff. Not even Gates give a crap about the PS3 (supposedly).

  • Nemek64

    Posted Jan 20, 2007 9:09 pm GMT

    admit what ? >.

  • Ground_Zero

    Posted Jan 20, 2007 4:54 pm GMT

    Natedogg, your my hero

  • newZeldamaster

    Posted Jan 20, 2007 4:22 pm GMT

    So the big cheese finally admits it! XD

  • Nemek64

    Posted Jan 19, 2007 4:01 pm GMT

    By the way im a owner of a wii,ds,psp,ps3,xboxx360 and i have zelda didint say its bad its got its good points and its weak points anyways XD these consoles going to be here for about 8 years maybe more so til now the only thing we do is to test them out like we did with the last console generation then we do the final vote WHO IS THE BEST CONSOLE =D!!!!
    peace

  • Nemek64

    Posted Jan 19, 2007 3:54 pm GMT

    well yes what natedogg actually said is true, like you said earlier ps3 migth not have much games realeased and the price is to high but thats why i said time is needed maybe the price will drop maybe new great games will realeased and didint you see the new final fantasys games or maybe grand turismo , metalgearsolid etc etc dont forget these console just got released
    they will have plenty of time to make whatever possible gadgets to make these consoles better and the only thing we can say is wich console had a really succesful launch more than this i cant say

  • cspark809

    Posted Jan 19, 2007 12:20 am GMT

    100% agree with natedogg05.. very true comment... and honestly if any of you whos reading this think graphic is everything why play xbox360? why playstation 3? pc has far better graphics and new graphic cards comes out least every 3months? Lot of time people who think they like xbox. think themselves as "true gamer" hmmmm.....

  • moogle301

    Posted Jan 18, 2007 10:04 am GMT

    natedogg05, your comment was smart and made perfect sense, you didnt bash others really and i read the entire comment without reaslieing iit was so long or getting bored. i agree

  • mach-stem

    Posted Jan 17, 2007 9:41 pm GMT

    natedogg05

    Good comment. Long, but good. I agree with you in every aspect, but what you need to realize is that the fanboys don't care so much about the actual market, they care about the graphics. Sad, but true. As much as I enjoy reading your comments, I doubt half the people reading it will be fond of it, but I wanted to reassure you that there ARE intelligent people who read this who understand what you write of.

    All in all, you have to admit: graphically beautiful or not, it is a great time to be a gamer. Near-realistic graphics, increasingly powerful hardware able to push out true to life physics, if only to name a few. I think now however, innovation will win the market "war". Innovation is key, and Nintendo has proven it.

    And for the record, Bill G. IS a dummy, he just happens to be the world's richest AND smartest dummy.

    PEACE

  • ianbeatson

    Posted Jan 17, 2007 4:53 pm GMT

    hello I just have to say ps3 xbox360 have exactly the same ideas in them used from 10 years ago remember 10YEARs xbox is doing the same as the ps1 while sony is the satrun ( the 6axis contoller is thaken from them)
    while on the other hand wii is different as more of a group thing than a one man band. and on a portable side no one can compare them evenly its nearly imposible thats like asking whether you liek air more than water (ds has to much suport from theppl that have a gba)

  • natedogg05

    Posted Jan 17, 2007 2:05 pm GMT

    All I meant by the keyboard and mouse reference is that if it's a FPS shooter, with the expection of the Halo franchise and games like COD3 that don't come out for the PC, is that I'd rather play those games on my PC where the graphics are comparable, if not exactly the same. And the control interface is easier, with the aim sensitivity of a mouse, and being able to call things up from your inventory using the number pad, or what have you. I wasn't bashing FPSs for consoles, but I find the PC controls much easier. So to buy a console just for a game like that (except for Halo) in order to play a game that I can play on PC, doesn't make sense to me, that's all.

  • CleptoPots

    Posted Jan 17, 2007 10:51 am GMT

    To Natedogg05:

    Well said, man! I'll tell you up front: I am the happy owner of an Xbox 360 and a Nintendo DS, which are both, in my eyes, the best consoles on the market right now. However, all of your points were reinforced and well-thought out (all except, perhaps, the comment about keyboard and mouse beating the pants off two thumb sticks, which is a completely irrelevent comment and utterly subject to personal opinion, so please try to refrain from such remarks as they take away from the rest of your insightful post). Indeed, while I was at first doubtful of Nintendo's Wii, I am becoming more and more impressed with their success in all areas, and I can't wait to see more as this whole console battle story developes a little further with each game and system purchased. May the best company win!

  • natedogg05

    Posted Jan 17, 2007 1:28 am GMT

    I read this article because I was surprised to see Bill Gates' name in the Wii Gamespot email, and let me just say right now, that no matter what you think of Bill Gates personally: Bill Gates is no dummy. It could have been spin, or he could be serious.

    But that's not why I'm posting now. I have to respond to Nemek64's comments about the Wii.

    I can't say as that I've played the PS3 much, only a little bit on a store display. But I have played a few titles extensively on the 360. And, surprise surprise, I own a Wii.

    First, the PS3 having free online gaming is definitely a huge advantage. Imagine if you had to pay to play every PC game online. Obviously, that suites MMORPG's, but to pay to have multiplayer function for every other PC game would seriously hurt their appeal and the fun of playing with other actual players.

    And the Wii? It seemlessly integrates with your wireless internet connection in your home and connects you to everyone else that has a similar setup and with every DS. It's also 100% completely backwards compatible with every single Nintendo game ever released, and some SEGA games too. But that's not the kicker. That's not what Nemek64 seems to hate so much. So the Wii is for kids. Yes, it is. Kids will want to play it more likely than the other two consoles. But guess what, that's a HUGE market. It makes perfect business sense to do something like that. The thing is, the Wii appeals to kids...and everbody else. I took my Wii over one of my dad's friend's house, and after playing and watching us play the bowling and golf from Wii sports, went out soon after and bought one for his own. He and his wife now play it often, and they're, I don't know 50-55 years old? I took it over to my friend's house, and not only were his little brothers and sisters (and parents) playing it, but then the grandparents, who happened to be in town, picked it up and played bowling with all of us. The grandparents?! When was the last time your grandparents played a videogame, and enjoyed it. Maybe they went out and bought one too, I don't know, but they still liked it, alot. So in that aspect, I think Nintendo's got a slam dunk.

    But you also had to go after the graphics. And of course they're not the latest and greatest. You're not going to see 70 million polygons rendered at 45 fps with 6x multisampling, or whatever. But, seriously, are you going to buy games for the graphics or for the G-A-M-E. Gameplay is without a doubt the number one factor when thinking of purcashing a console or game for one. If not, then, what ARE you buying games for? You don't go out and buy graphics, you buy games. If you don't believe that, ask a company like Gametap, who make their business selling old, "crappy graphic" games that people love. And, so what that there graphics are from the 80's or 90's? The play of the game was what got them in the first time around, and is bringing them back again, even this many years later. And now think of what games developers might come up with that use the full motion-sensitivity of with Wii controller. It's what makes Wii sports so much fun, and I'm sure Wii Play to follow soon. You can't compare the motion-quasi-sensitivity of the PS3. And the PS3 doesn't even have a rumble feature...what were they thinking?!

    Namek64 says that if you have the money you should buy a Wii as a backup. Well, you probably won't have any money left after you shelled out $600 for a PS3. I don't think there's any game out there, or the functionality of the system so great, as to warrant that hefty price. Sure if you can afford it, or you have parents that can afford it, then more power to you, but Sony's got to think that their price point is in some way hurting their sales. Your eyes might be so dazzled by the pretty graphics, they won't notice your credit card bill when it comes. Case in point, Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was a gorgeous movie, but it didn't do so well at the box office or in dvd sales - certainly not enough to cover the huge expense of making something so graphically appealing.

    And the graphics of the Wii aren't (whatever bleeped word you used), but at the same time, they're not **** as in four-stars. But they're good enough. Wii Sports isn't supposed to be graphical, but it does get the sound and mechanics right for its games, simple as they may be. But a game like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Priness does indeed have some splendid graphics. But that's not why the franchise sells millions of its games. It's the story, the gameplay, and the familiar characters. Something that dazzling graphics has nothing to do with. Graphics don't sell games, games sell games.

    Speaking of games, I bet it is hard to develop games for the Blu-ray; a new, expensive, time-consuming technology, which while impressive, may not end up succeeding, at least not until it becomes the standard of the next format for DVDs and data storage. Maybe it will, just because the PS3 picked it over the HDDVD, who knows? But still, it's a big risk to take with your $600. Meanwhile, the Wii will be coming out with the next Super Smash Bros, the next Metroid Prime, the next Mario game, just to name a few of the big ones. And 360's got Halo 3 coming - that's huge too. What does PS3 got...? A game that I'm going to spend $600 plus $50-80 for the game, just so I can play that game? I don't think so. By the way, $70-80/game is just plain nuts. Anything more that $50 is already pushing it. All in all, play what you're going play, but give credit where credit is due. In the meantime, I can play Call of Duty 3 on my Wii, where I can actually aim to shoot, and hit a Nazi with the butt of my rifle by mimicking the actual motion. Or I could play a FPS game like COD3 on my PC which, with keyboard and mouse, beats the pants off of two thumbed analog sticks.

  • Fooljeff

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 10:46 pm GMT

    Microsoft loves bashing sony.

  • cooked_sashimi

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 9:51 pm GMT

    If you actually listen to the lady speaking Japanese and the text in Japanese, it is evident that the context of the interview is in an international view rather than just the domestic market of the Japanese.

  • Nemek64

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 8:22 pm GMT

    ok iam back after a week of gaming on ps3 and the 360 and i will give my honest opinion most of the games the 360 had beter graphics ( only ) but if put the graphics away and compare the stations i honeslty think ps3 dominates the xbox 360 in that i mean free online gaming that just kills it ,and the wii???? u gotta be kidding me its for kids it has **** graphics and the only thing i like about it is the controllers so if ur over atleast 13 years old get the 360 or the ps3 and if have enough money u get the wii as a backup ull eventually get bored of it trust me. And like ur saying RFOM is gay compared to GOW i mean the 360 has been out for over a year now so the real battle begins later give sony some time and now you guys are bashing the PS3's games, just because the game developers havent worked with blu-ray before? the only thing that will decide who is the better console is time you never know....(by the way i tried call of duty 3 on the wii console its ****** sucked bad compared to ps3 and xbox360 )

  • undox

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 7:38 pm GMT

    If Microsoft recognizes Nintendo as a threat, then the DS and Wii in having a bigger impact than I thought.

  • Dunestar

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 6:30 pm GMT

    It's funny how we can take abstract comments and take them to heart. The truth is Gates has viewed the Wii as being something uniquely different, whereas the PS3 appears as if Sony borrowed the elements of both the 360's Hard Drive /Online attributes, the Wii's motion-sensitive controls and called it a 'console.'

    Personally, Sony has been stumbling a lot lately, and not just with the PS3, but the PSP as well. One problem is Sony putting out 'exclusive' technology like Blu-Ray and UMD, and not leasing out the rights to other companies.

    Don't believe me? Look at Betamax. Definitely the technology was far more superior to VHS, but VHS dominated as the video format. Mainly because JVC lent out the technology to studios, whereas Sony expected them to pay fees for their technology. Thus Betamax was more expensive than the economical VHS, and which format do you think people are going to purchase? Same with UMD, studios loved it, but consumers hated the jacked up price. When one can purchase a DVD, format it into a MPEG-4 and save it on a 512 MB to 2 GB memory stick for less. [Not including the price for a memory stick] Why purchase a UMD movie? Even though Sony's still supporting the format with their own studio films, UMD is slowly dying, and I fear Blu-Ray will be next.

    Back to the topic, however, I feel the Nintendo Wii is great for what it can do, but I've no illusions, it's not going to topple the 360, nor knock the PS3 out of business. But it does play games and has repetitive fun value. Which is why I got one over the PS3 (I could've saved up to $600, if I wanted to but why? Since for the same price I could've either gotten a 360 or Wii, with some games and an extended warranty.)

    And that's probably why Gates views the Big 'N' as tough competition over Sony.

  • jago93

    Posted Jan 16, 2007 12:58 am GMT

    i argee with ps2plusoneis3

  • cwgr8621

    Posted Jan 15, 2007 11:31 pm GMT

    the console market and the handheld market are HUGELY different

  • RaiKageRyu

    Posted Jan 15, 2007 6:11 pm GMT

    RE:Zenfoldor

    That's a pretty shortsighted comment. PSP sales are up tp 20 million. Yeah, its not as large as DS's 35 million. However, it sure beats the Xbox 360 10 million. If the PSP is to be discontinued soon, you might as well say that for the 360 as well.

  • MrSickVisionz

    Posted Jan 15, 2007 5:31 pm GMT

    LOL @ Umbra.

    Interesting random fact: X360 has sold like 300K units in japan, but in December with the release of that RPG game they sold like 100k units alone. If they even bother with a Xbox3 in Japan (I seriously think they sell 360s with a sticker saying, "remember Hirosima" on them), a clear sign is don't even bother releasing unless you're launching with like 3 RPGs and at least 5 more by the end of the year.

  • umbracascade

    Posted Jan 15, 2007 3:08 pm GMT

    And when the unsuspecting fools least expect it... out of shadows emerge a foe everyone thought long vanquished but revived, stronger, faster and more powerful, beware of the DREAMCAST II !!!1111

  • Zenfoldor

    Posted Jan 14, 2007 1:45 am GMT

    Let's see. Nintendo makes money on their systems. The DS owns a virtual monopoly on the handheld market. The PSP will probably be discontinued soon. The most likely reason the PSP hasn't been discontinued is because Sony is to stubborn to admit defeat to Nintendo.

    The Wii has had a very successful launch, but we're not sure how it will go from there.

    Those are pretty close to facts. No fanboyism at all, really. If someone tries to compare the success of the PSP to the DS, then that my friend is fanboyism. If someone tries to claim the Wii hasn't had a successful launch, that is fanboyism. If someone tries to claim the DS isn't the handheld leader in sales and popularity, and especially software sales, that my friend, is fanboyism. Thank you.

    I don't find it so far fetched that Gates says Nintendo is his biggest competition when he's discussing his new handheld.

  • Goku2639

    Posted Jan 13, 2007 6:40 pm GMT

    JohnLucas1.............YOU ARE 100% correct.....Go Nintendo

  • johnlucas1

    Posted Jan 13, 2007 11:06 am GMT

    All those cocky loudtalkers dismissing my comment about Nintendo are about to receive a history lesson this year.
    I've been around videogaming since near the beginning.
    I don't have to say anything more.
    Nintendo's sales & profits will do all the talking for me.

    Not to mention their cultural impact through Wii & DS.

    Poor deluded young'uns.
    They'll learn just as all the inexperienced have done before them.
    John Lucas

  • cjcr_alexandru

    Posted Jan 13, 2007 9:44 am GMT

    Gates says something in an interview and here there are... 1003 comments. Make that 1004.

  • remakerer22

    Posted Jan 13, 2007 5:54 am GMT

    If anyone hasn't noticed lately....There are currently 3 consoles you can not find in stores today....the Wii, DS, and PS2. The PS2 had a HUGE 2006...there were many blockbuster titles released for it, and it is still selling strong. The PS2 is officially the oldest member of video game entertainment available to comsumers from the retail marketplace, and it still dominates. However, if you were trying to find a Wii or a DS, it would be near impossible, unless you knew someone who worked at a store, or just got lucky and came across a store who JUST got them in stock. At my store, 360's did not sell well at all, so no one has the right to say that 360 was "banging" over the holiday, when the DS and the PS2, clearly had more sell of units. I believe that if retailers had equal the amount of 360s and Wii's on the shelf...the Wii would have won in a console selling race, just because of how many more people ask if we had Wii's in on a day to day basis compared to anything else. -peace bros.

  • Bobbington69

    Posted Jan 13, 2007 5:40 am GMT

    "tvayst
    SHUT UP Anybody who thinks the PS3 is the best because it is the most expensive. It's price is not because of "superior technology" it is becausew of blu-ray. w/o the blu-ray palyer it would probably cost like $200 because the gaming part of it is crap"

    Blu-ray (a next-gen format) being superior to DVDs in terms of capacity and so on. Thus it is superior technology. What you said is like saying that DVD players aren't superior to VHS. Also, without the blu-ray bit it wouldn't cost anything because it wouldn't DO anything (useful), it would just be a collection of materials with nothing to do except possibly be used as a paperweight or doorstop.
    Back to what the article says...at the moment, Gates is probably right. PS3 doesn't look too threatening at the moment, does it? But don't forget, PS3 launches in Europe in March which will boost its sales. You can't count it out when it hasn't even been released worldwide.

  • KORAK33

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 9:36 pm GMT

    Now, A reality check...Nintendo is doing well...The 360 is Banging everyone...The ps3 is just sitting on the shelves...BUT, good competition only gets, ALL OF US, better games!!! So, lets keep up the good work, by ALL Y'ALL... URN OUT!

  • KORAK33

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 9:27 pm GMT

    WOW!!! It sounds like " Obi-john Lucas" and " RinTinTin 5151" are just the best fanboys, ever!!! I hope Nintendo pays them, at least, minimum wage, for their efforts...You are the cutist widdle FANBOYS!!!

    URN OUT!

  • Shingo

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 6:06 pm GMT

    Hmm, I thought MS and NIntendo were thinking of teaming up...

  • JimmyChalice

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 3:40 pm GMT

    Well i dont to agree you puttin the NEO GEO on that list, this console had major sales overseas, and most of the games that cam out for it were japanese games, only a few made it to America and they were very well accepted by the public, Fatal Fury 1 & 2, Art of Fighting, NAM, Super Sidekicks 1, 2, & 3. and a lot more i cannot remmember right now. also mostly every arcade had this console because the arcade runs with the NEO GEO engine, why you think we got an every year version of "The King of Fighters", "Metal Slug", "Samurai Showdown", all these games were ported from the NEO GEO Engine to PS & PS2 and all sucked, the emulation was poor. i rather play them in my nearest arcade joint.

    The console flopped but in japan games are still being developed by 3rd party companies who are keeping it alive, although SNK (the NEO GEO creator isn't supporting the home console and only focusing on creating games for the arcade's. Despite the end of official support from SNK, many titles are still expected to be launched by third party developers. For example, a new cartridge-based game called Last Hope was released for the home console in 2006 showcasing the continued ability of the Neo Geo even sixteen years after its debut. Let me tell you the game is a BAD ASS tactical shooting game.

    see it for yourself:
    http://www.lasthope.ngdevteam.com/

    Although its in 2D it is still a cool game.

  • chakan2

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 2:50 pm GMT

    It's rare a system is a complete failure. I bet you couldn't even name one, could ya?

    Gizmando
    3D0
    Neo-Geo
    Vitura-Boy
    Sega Master System (at least in the states, I heard it did well overseas)
    Jaguar
    PS3

  • MaCoDaMieNuTz

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 2:25 pm GMT

    This is completely irrelevant, but I can't wait until games come on flash drives in the future. It's gunna happen!!!!

  • MaCoDaMieNuTz

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 2:15 pm GMT

    Jaguar, Virtual Boy, Sega CD, and 3DO were failures.

  • JimmyChalice

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 2:12 pm GMT

    Phylyn5151
    FearNinja:
    What are you talking about? There where technically 4 major consoles in the N64 generation( 64, Playstation, Dreamcast, and Saturn). The 2 sega systems fail but were hardly crappy, and the PS and 64 were for the most part equally successful. I work in a game store and we sell 64 games all the time and ps games just collect dust. Whats that tell ya?

    As for the gamecube, It was hardly a failure. Just because every single stinken' game for the ps2 had violence doesn't make it a winner. All 3 of those systems was a succsess. It's rare a system is a complete failure. I bet you couldn't even name one, could ya? _________________________________________________________

    I can name one?

    Remmember Panasonic 3DO, jajajajajaja it flopped instantly !!!!

  • Phylyn5151

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 1:54 pm GMT

    FearNinja:
    What are you talking about? There where technically 4 major consoles in the N64 generation( 64, Playstation, Dreamcast, and Saturn). The 2 sega systems fail but were hardly crappy, and the PS and 64 were for the most part equally successful. I work in a game store and we sell 64 games all the time and ps games just collect dust. Whats that tell ya?

    As for the gamecube, It was hardly a failure. Just because every single stinken' game for the ps2 had violence doesn't make it a winner. All 3 of those systems was a succsess. It's rare a system is a complete failure. I bet you couldn't even name one, could ya?

  • Dante565

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 1:06 pm GMT

    johnlucas1
    Today I dub you the gaming noob of the month. Your comments have been so far off I dont even want to correct you. But it looks like other people have.

  • funky_muzic

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 12:24 pm GMT

    I love to talk trash about "other" consoles, but I also love the fact that there is competition. Imagine how boring this "board" would be without competition between consoles. In fact, this particular article wouldn't even be here...
    Anyways, it's well known that Nintendo did not win the last 2 generations of console wars. They made a drastic mistake with the N64 and kept the games on cartridges. This scared away many developers who were more than happy to make a game on a CD (less risk) for an upstart console-maker (Sony). But, Nintendo still had some great games on the N64. Zelda and Mario 64, and because of the cartridges...no load times! Gamecube is a nice little system too. While the Big N switch over to CDs (or mini-DVDs) they did not get back all of the third-parties that they lost. Of course they had more great games: Zelda, Metroid Prime, Pikmin, Mario (enter sport of choice here), and more. But enough of the history lesson...
    Here are two reasons why Nintendo will always be around, making great consoles (even if it's not #1 in sales, it will still be great):
    1. Nintendo innovates. Nintendo has always looked at the gaming imput device as something that it can improve on. From the Cross-pad on the NES, shoulder buttons (SNES), Analog Stick, "trigger button", and rumble, & 4 controller ports (N64), wi-fi wireless controller, "focused" A-button, to the motion sensing & pointing functions (wii), they have been innovating. You can bet that they will continue innovating in the future. If Sony, Microsoft, or some other hi-tech company doesn't jump on the bandwagon and develop it first, you can bet that Nintendo will bring you true "virtual-reality" gaming sometime in the near future (bring back the Power Glove!)
    2. Nintendo makes great games. They always have and always will. Some non-Nintendo fanboy mentioned below that Zelda selling almost 1:1 with the Wii console was a bad thing. No, that's just how good Zelda is. It's one of those must have apps for a console. Most consoles are lucky to have one in it's generation, and Nintendo already has it. Don't forget about Metroid Prime 3 (for you 1st-person shooting fans) and Mario Galaxy (just plain fun!). In fact, I'll make a bold prediction and say that Metroid Prime 3 is going to be a better games (higher ratings across the board) than Halo 3! If it ends up being online (which I'm pretty sure it will be), then look out. All we need is the "Zapper" attachment for the Wii-mote, and it's on!

  • morororo

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 12:21 pm GMT

    FearNinja
    FearNinja
    Wow Johnlucas1 how much do you get paid by Nintendo? I have never heard so much BS in one comment. Remember the N64 and Gamecube? Yeah both of them were last in thier generation.

    That's cause people are sheep. Look at any top 10 all time best games, half of them are N64 games.

  • tvayst

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 11:34 am GMT

    SHUT UP Anybody who thinks the PS3 is the best because it is the most expensive. It's price is not because of "superior technology" it is becausew of blu-ray. w/o the blu-ray palyer it would probably cost like $200 because the gaming part of it is crap

  • bjmage16

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 10:42 am GMT

    johnlucas1, Microsoft is doing awesome with Xbox 360. They are now MAKING money with their system (do the research please, it's a well know fact), on target to make up their losses from the first one. That is GREAT business. Businesses take losses all the time when they believe they will have future gains.

    Microsoft has sold 10.4 million as of Dec 11. Wii has sold just over 2.5 million as of Jan 7. Do some research before giving statistics. Wii will do better overall. That's obvious. More people are willing to spend $250 over $400. You have probably never taken a business course in college. You seem to hype up profits. If you've taken anything is business, you'll know that making money isn't always the number one priority. Often, in a market like this, you have to take losses to enter the market, only to improve on the product in the future. This is what Microsoft has done, and they've done amazingly well. They're the ONLY company in 15 years that have been able to enter the market and be successful, excluding Sony.

    Nintendo hasn't held the king of gaming title since the SNES. N64 failed in comparison with the huge success of the Playstation (look at the numbers, 102 million PS compared to 32 million N64). Gamecube failed with respect to PS2 (111 million vs 21 million). The Wii could change this, but over the past 10 years, Nintendo has been far behind in second place.

    I would do some research next time, before you let your fanboyism show itself.

  • johnlucas1

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 10:16 am GMT

    Thanks glhx1rush.
    I tried not to leave anything out. ;-)

    John Lucas

  • FearNinja

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 10:06 am GMT

    Wow Johnlucas1 how much do you get paid by Nintendo? I have never heard so much BS in one comment. Remember the N64 and Gamecube? Yeah both of them were last in thier generation. And the Wii is still just a gamecube with a motion sensing controller attatched nothing more.

  • zac41

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 10:00 am GMT

    Gamespots Jeff G's toughest foe is getting his pants to stretch over his fat lard ass. What a pig he is

  • FearNinja

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 9:57 am GMT

    GigaKaiser

    Why the heck are you talking about Halo?

  • GigaKaiser

    Posted Jan 12, 2007 9:46 am GMT

    "halo is in a class all by itself."

    Wait ten years, do you think anyone will still remember or care about Halo? No? Then it's probably not a classic.

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