No Gamerscores for PS3

Bragging score akin to Xbox 360's Gamerscore and Achievements won't appear on the PlayStation 3.

One way to tell if someone has been logging some serious hours on their Xbox 360 is to check their Gamerscore. The feature tracks how many Achievements--various game goals set by developers--gamers accomplish by assigning each task a numerical score. By adding up all the numbers, gamers get their Gamerscore and bragging rights (provided they didn't buy it).

The feature has been a surprise success for the Xbox 360, with gamers playing games they otherwise wouldn't solely to try to boost their scores.

With its success, many thought Sony would mimic the system for its upcoming PlayStation 3. It was even once rumored that Sony's system would be called "Entitlements," causing a bit of a row among Microsoft fans.

Now it appears that Sony isn't jumping on the bandwagon. According to Wired.com, Jack Tretton, executive vice president of Sony Computer Entertainment America, has said that achievements, entitlements, or whatever else they may be called, will not be a part of the PS3's program.

When asked about the prospect, Tretton said, "We didn't mention that, but it is our intention that we would have it--although I think it would be game-centric. It's very difficult to draw analogies [between] your success on SOCOM and your success on Madden. Madden players care about peoples' success on Madden."

So instead of having one score across all games, it appears Sony is opting for glorified leaderboards for each game.

"So the publisher [of each game] will have the flexibility to have a robust ranking system, on a game-by-game basis," said Tretton. "The intention right now is not to have something that is pan-platform. We do intend to do that with our [first-party] stuff."

Tretton also admitted that the ranking system would not be included in the launch games. Sony had not responded to requests for comment as of press time.

460 Comments

  • dougpeck

    Posted Dec 29, 2007 3:44 am PT

    tbh im glad. i got a 360. but after 2months i noticed i just spent 600pound on games. only 3 i wanted ... and only 2 i was glad i bought the other 20 (bought loads of 10-20pound ones) just for the gamerscore. but then got pissed off all the time when there was one i couldnt get but i tryed really hard (historian on bioshock for example. and 100% corruption on overlord)
    as it was really frustrating when the only way u can get that 1 is to replay the game. so after getting COD2 for 5pound and did half of it on veteran but i just didnt have the paience. so i sold my 360 and all the games for 600pound.
    bought a ps3 (yay!!!) then i see this **** aboot the entitlements and i didnt want to hear it. it made me buy loads of games i didnt want to a while back. i dont want it again. i just want to get the few games i did want and go from there.

    so glad i didnt waste anouther 600pound to find out i gutta resell it.
    ... so now it turns out im moving from england to canda. I GUTTA GET A NEW **** PC. NEW CONSOLE. because canadian games dont work on british systems. luckily that dont work like that for PSPs =D

  • _Sam_

    Posted Oct 26, 2006 6:53 pm PT

    that's too bad. I wanted them for the ps3

  • GTA420

    Posted Oct 25, 2006 10:40 pm PT

    If there is a cross platform game on PS3 and XBOX 360. I will play the 360 version due to the achievements.

  • sam_woo

    Posted Oct 25, 2006 7:06 pm PT

    gamerscores are dumb, achievements are cool. like, it's cool to get achievments and stuff when you do something cool, but the scoring system is retarted because it's not based on skill, every game has 1000 points and every xbla game has a couple hundred i think, you could get the same amount of points for finishing the first level in one game as you get for unlocking everything in another game.

  • CivicGSR

    Posted Oct 25, 2006 1:22 pm PT

    Hey "the-ace" - 360 also has internal ranks for each game, along with the cool gamerscore. And no, once you get an achievement on 360, you can't earn it again. Each game has 1000 achievement points, and unfortunately the launch titles were pretty easy, but the developers have learned how to make difficult, fun achievements. "The-ace" you should actually sit down and play a 360 before you talk about how much better sony is this go-around. PS3 is only worth $600 if you desparately need a blue-ray player. I'm not saying that PS3 sucks; it will outlast the 360 most-likely. All I'm saying is make the right choice, get a wii and a 360 for the same price as a ps3. 360 has a ton of fun games now, while ps3 is launching with squat. Wii is just totally awesome. PS3 will be awesome once its price drops and some of the anticipated games launch, but that won't be until 2007.

  • The-ace

    Posted Oct 25, 2006 8:59 am PT

    at least they make fair scores rather than easy-to-get scores that the x360 provides
    when somebody is good at a game ,his rank increases in the SAME game.
    not like the x360 which anyone could play the same game endlessley and get tons of scores that apply to all games. LOL.
    that's a step ahead for sony.

  • rgjj

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 2:38 pm PT

    gamer scores are awsome it alows u to see how geeky and how much time peeps on your friends list are and have to waste. so if ur loosin to some one they cant say well "beginers look" or "i've hardly played this"! Sony wil copy it in some sort of way they copy everythin from rumble to online services to even axis controllers but they aint failed to pul it off yet!?!

  • gskehans97

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 8:03 am PT

    ha...That's why Xbox360 rules!

  • wenbin09

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 6:18 am PT

    it will be interesting if they were to include it..

  • Dante200X

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 2:08 am PT

    the funny thing is this: PS3 has gamerscore = copy, no gamerscore = stupid move/stupid sony

  • TJ-Bubba

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 1:56 am PT

    Well they can always use the gamer score in XFire

  • RaNaBiR

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 1:21 am PT

    What's wrong with just playing a game for the fun of it? I don't see the point of buying a game just to increase some "numbers".

  • neoand12

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 12:08 am PT

    Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! achievements makes me mad on Smash TV beat the whole game without dieing! give me a break!

  • Ringmaster1717

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 11:41 pm PT

    Gamerscores is a neet thing but oh well dont need it

  • nyohnk

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:35 pm PT

    JoeyDrey is absolutely right they mean nothing at all, i seen a guy who got 1000 points from Open Season...that crap is a little kids movie i mean seriously, if a little kid did it then sure cool, but someone else like a teen or above, to boost a meaningless score i mean come on...but wwf is right too, they do make it fun like if im playing madden and get bored ill just mess around and try to get them, but i wouldnt spend 60 bucks for 1000 meaningless points comeon!! there are guys who have probably spent thousands to get their gamerscore up when its useless, please people, get real.....and im glad PS3 aint doing it....and good for M$...they are cashing in on the feature that wasnt even a sales tactic......

  • silverfang6

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 7:50 pm PT

    YOU COPY EVERYTHING ELSE MICROSOFT BUT YOU DON'T COPY ONE OF LIVE'S BEST FEATURES....

    And for those of you that don't care you haven't owned or had a profile on a 360 before....you got to represent

  • robot_chicken32

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 5:58 pm PT

    meh, couldn't care less

  • EddyG0RD0

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 5:34 pm PT

    lol @ fanbots wishing SONY would copy xbox

  • freerunner01

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 5:27 pm PT

    alright achievements are a good thing but i dont really care about em. Yes someitmes they give the game lasting appeal that wouldnt be there as some achievements provide extra challanges....beyond that i dont much care about it, as i play the games for fun and not for the score...i dont much care if ps3 is not going to have anything like it since im not even sure if its worth paying 600+game+tax+moregames for it

  • matttrd

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 4:26 pm PT

    Thank goodness foe that.

  • Nafda

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 3:30 pm PT

    Nerd wang fest ftw

  • JoeyDrey

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 2:17 pm PT

    What happend to playing a game because it is good? Not because we want to boost some stupid score that only nerds care about. It's just a score...it still doesnt tell how much of a loser you are for playing Bomberman for 12 strait hours.

  • Rhubarb9

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 2:14 pm PT

    x360 players buy games for the achivement points!? good god I buy games to enjoy them not to showoff! each day I get more turned off of wanting an M$ console

    the ps3 stat system is much better though imho

  • minerl99

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 1:48 pm PT

    Often the achievements that you haven't gotten give you hints as to other things to do, that you may not have thought of otherwise.

    Very helpful and an extra challenge to try and experiment with things the developer thought you might find interesting.

    What's wrong with that??? Nothing. Achievements are a good thing for many and don't hurt anyone else.

    Sony should have included them, but they're online (no official name) service just never got off the ground in a big way. It sounds like it will be slightly better than what the PS2 had.

    Not exactly what we were led to believe...

  • wwf20112

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 1:34 pm PT

    personally achievments give games some extra replay value/long lasting value for the hardcore and even casual gamers.its a nice little feature for some.

  • UltimaCloudX

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 1:30 pm PT

    I have to admit that I kinda dig the achievement system in the Xbox 360. I didn't know what to think at first, but then it gets kind of addictive, in the way when you compare games with people on your friend's list and say "oh yeah, I was able to get 1,000,000 on Geometry Wars and these people haven't been able to yet!!". Its kinda cool because alot of times people will be like "oh **** you did that??? I had such a hard time when I tried, do you have any pointers?" Sounds really weird to those that haven't tried it, but you'd be amazed if you gave it a month or two... it really grows on ya.

    Either way, PS3 will be fun I'm sure. I hope maybe though... if people start to demand it... that they will do something similar at least... even if people say they copied it or whatever.

    Take care.

  • lilballer9871

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 1:25 pm PT

    To Imbacon. The Sixaxis controller is a gimmick too and so is PNP.

  • alien_intrusion

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 1:16 pm PT

    I feel like this, the gamerscore is so that even if your not able to rank high in a particular game you can feel like you ranked high in gamerscore points. Thats why games have leaderboards as well, and some games give achievement points for being ranked number 1. The gamescore is a competition everyone has a chance to be number 1 regardless of skill level.

  • AgileNate

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 12:31 pm PT

    I like the achievements for the X360 but we all know if Sony used this as well, the 360 fans would be hear saying Sony stole Microsofts idea and the flaming would have been outragous. Game scores do mean something as its that "lil extra" that adds to a game.

  • ciryorel

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 12:26 pm PT

    Not important at all...

  • Elite_Jounin

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 12:04 pm PT

    Achievements, game scores? = not that important

  • Jhonie_Fklits25

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 11:58 am PT

    Is Sony trying to go bankrupt?

  • Ivoryblaze

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:46 am PT

    I like having achievments on my 360...adds replay value plus it gives you something to shoot for. It's cool Sony didn't copy, but to each there own, and enough of the Xbox/Sony fanboy attitudes.....let it go man!

  • nate_n8

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:39 am PT

    Who cares about a gamerscore? Seriously, will I get a free game when I achieve a certain score? It's like the points on the old Super Mario Bro. Who cares? The only score I'm worried about is the one at the end of a sports game.

  • cjcr_alexandru

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:22 am PT

    Ok... Sounds good.

  • OpalDragon

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:16 am PT

    I've got a 360, but I really could care more (less) about my Gamerscore.

    My Gs has been 120 for about 5 months. It's not like I haven't tried to get a higher score, which I haven't -- not since I've been spending most of my time playing FFXI, but I suck at first-person shooters, can't stand sports games, and get bored too easily playing the same "arcade" game for too long.

    The achievements for FFXI come when you complete all the missions of a module, which is not easy considering that even the first 10 missions of the game can't be completed without getting your character up to level 75 and being in a whole lot of parties. That and each job you get to level 75 gets Gs points. That's it, no intermediate achievement points -- no bone for getting all jobs in the game or getting all your crafting skills to 10. Zip. Give me a break S-E, I've got a life.

  • imbacon

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:09 am PT

    "Good for Sony. Who the heck needs "achievements" anyway? They're only a gimmick to make people waste more of their lives playing video games."

    "Who needs x"
    "only a gimmick"
    Those are a fanboy's calling cards!

  • aashkii

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:04 am PT

    You Sony fanboys are pretty ticked off by this. I would be too if I could afford to buy a $600 product when the preorders are sold out in the first place.

  • Jo-El_Kung

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 10:02 am PT

    Good for Sony. Who the heck needs "achievements" anyway? They're only a gimmick to make people waste more of their lives playing video games.

  • Yuck_Too

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 9:59 am PT

    Basically all this means is Sony is leaving everything up to the Dev’s and that their “online” service for games is exactly what the PS2 is now.

    Also the leader boards on XBL are independent of gamer score in XBL, and the number of rankings for those leader boards are as vast as they are varied

  • jofy

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 9:56 am PT

    SavoyPrime
    A ranking system on a game-by-game basis interests me more than an overall score (especially when people play games they normally wouldn't just to boost their score). This is also a good thing for Sony. If they had used the gamerscore concept for their online network; X360 fanboys would have been screaming rape!

    EXACTLY

  • moocow21

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 9:28 am PT

    A game-by-game achievement thing would be interesting. But I do like how achievements work on 360. Can't blame Sony for not ripping them off though, although I kind of wish they would.

  • Digital-Hero

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 9:27 am PT

    If there is a cross platform game on PS3 and XBOX 360. I will play the 360 version due to the achievements.

  • westsider101

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:59 am PT

    that right they better not copy anything else off of microsoft

  • SavoyPrime

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:31 am PT

    A ranking system on a game-by-game basis interests me more than an overall score (especially when people play games they normally wouldn't just to boost their score). This is also a good thing for Sony. If they had used the gamerscore concept for their online network; X360 fanboys would have been screaming rape!

  • TintedChimes

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:29 am PT

    Eh... numbers, now if they gave away stuff with it, then we have something! Like a bunny or maybe a dragon or maybe a free kick in the butt to whoever make the crap games!

  • damrockuk

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:25 am PT

    well over in the UK....Xbox 360 games at alot of places are like £34.99 for the new titles and alot of titles are selling for £17.99 or cheaper... The Cheapest ive seen for any PS3 game was £49.99... Xbox premuim for £259.99 and PS3 selling for over £500 so its pritty close to my orignal thing i said. I dont thing think theres many people who has £500 to spend on a console and then atleast £50 a game its not user friendly at all its just sony looking to make money.

  • leonstars

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:24 am PT

    I say how cares about gamerscore just play the game
    i buy a game because i like it when i go to buy a game i base it off
    many things and points are not one of them

  • evry1snice

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:17 am PT

    damrrockuk "dont think many people want to buy a ps3 when you can buy like 2 xbox 360's for the same price. and you can buy 2 xbox games for the price of one ps3 game....Enough said"

    You sir can not do math for crap. XBox 360 games = $59.99 PS3 games = $59.99 (has been announced)

    how the hell do you get two XBOX 360 games for the price of one PS# game?

  • inkwolf

    Posted Oct 23, 2006 8:17 am PT

    I honestly don't see what the big deal is with gamerscore. I don't have a 360, so I guess I can't really speak to it, but until a high gamerscore can actually earn you something (like say, discounts on marketplace downloads), I just don't understand why people are trying so hard to get high scores. And I think it's completely insane that anyone would pay for such a meaningless number either.

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