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PS3: hot or not?

  • By Curt Feldman, GameSpot
  • Posted Aug 21, 2006 3:15 pm PT

Analysts predict, then react to PS3's likely success; will pricing and lack of "wow" factor signal death knell for Sony's supremacy, or is the console champ poised to keep its crown?

You say you have an opinion on the likely success of the PlayStation 3? We've got one bit of advice--take a number.

In fact, the prognosticating has become so busy with competing voices and opinions, Sony boss Kaz Hirai last week chimed in with his own two cents.

Hirai's comments followed a mostly positive assessment of the PS3's future success from the Yankee Group, as well as a DFC Intelligence report lambasting Sony for the console's high price point and reliance on Blu-ray as the unit's media format. The Yankee Group pegged the PS3 as the likely winner of the next-gen console wars, while DFC Intelligence suggested Sony could find itself bringing up the rear if it doesn't change its ways soon.

GameSpot recently spoke with four more analysts to get their takes on the PS3: Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities, Evan Wilson of Pacific Crest Securities, Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets, and Hiroshi Kamide of KBC Securities in Japan.

Is the PS3 too expensive?

Kamide: It's fair to say that at least initially, the hardware will sell very well--just like at any console launch. However, 6 to 12 months down the line, Sony's high-end consumer electronics approach will be detrimental in terms of raising market share. Pricing is too expensive, and the message of a "must-have" digital entertainment system without any real conviction over user demand doesn't bode well. It's a message that won't hold sway with mass-market gamers, where industry growth is currently being driven.

Wilson: I do not see the price as an impediment to the PS3's unit sales for this holiday season. The PS3 will likely still sell out, and Sony will reap the revenue benefits.

Pachter: PS3 will sell out at $499. It may sound like a lot of money but is certainly not significantly more in inflation-adjusted dollars than the PS1 at $300 in 1995. The "cheap" PS3 and the "expensive" 360 are identical in all respects, save for the Blu-ray drive. Both have similar processors, 20GB hard drives, and DVI cable interfaces that will support 720p high definition. The difference in price is $100, so if you like Sony more and want a relatively inexpensive option to buy into high-definition movies, the cost is probably justified. In other words, consumers will compare the $499 PS3 to the $399 Xbox 360 and will likely decide based upon the potential selection of software (Japanese, US, and European for Sony, US and European for Microsoft), plus their assessment of the likely winner in the format war. If Blu-ray is the standard, the price differential will hold.

Sebastian: Pricing is an issue they will need to address, particularly when you get past the first few million consumers who will snap up the system at any price. For the rest of us, Sony should be able to demonstrate the advantages of owning a PS3 versus a 360 or Wii.

Does Blu-ray help or hinder the console's chances at success?

Wilson: Sony has and will continue to lose mindshare because it has been unable to differentiate the PS3 relative to the 360 from a game-play perspective, and at this point, many gamers don't care about Blu-ray.

Pachter: There will be a Blu-ray market as soon as the first PS3 rolls off the assembly line. Anyone with a PS3 and an HD monitor is a Blu-ray customer. If Blu-ray is not the standard, [then] Sony will have to eat the price difference, and pricing will come to parity rapidly. We won't know for sure till holiday 2007. My guess is Blu-ray wins and consumers perceive more than $100 in value. Remember, most households have only one HD monitor, so it actually makes sense to buy a hybrid device.

Sebastian: For many potential customers, it will boil down to the quality of the games.

When will Sony need to cut the price to protect market share?

Kamide: As a yardstick, within seven months (as per PlayStation) as opposed to over a year (as per PS2) sounds more sensible to me, given that Xbox 360 has a year's head start and Nintendo Wii's hyper-competitive pricing. This will not be easy to achieve, given that losses per unit even at $600 must be quite substantial--but there may not be a choice in the matter if Sony wants to maintain any sort of leadership in the console industry.

Sebastian: Sony may have to cut the price within the first year after launch, particularly if Nintendo's Wii sells well and the Xbox 360 maintains its sales momentum.

What's your read on where publishers stand today on the PS3 launch?

Pachter: Most publishers are playing the launch conservatively. I'm sure that EA will have four or five titles ready and that Activision and Ubisoft will have two apiece, with one or two from Take-Two, Midway, and a few Japanese publishers. The others (THQ, Atari, Eidos/SCi) are less likely to be there at launch if they're not ready, mostly because the cost is not necessarily justified. I think that everyone will allocate resources to the 360 this holiday, because the installed base is likely to be 10 million by year end, so a game that captures five percent market share will be a nice success. The Wii is likely to be well represented, but my guess is that the US guys will be playing catch up, because I don't think that they realized before E3 what a big deal the Wii will "bii."

Wilson: The large US publishers are following a predictable development schedule for the PS3. Electronic Arts is pushing to have all its big properties on the PS3 in the launch window and to take the market share lead. Publishers like Activision and Ubisoft are developing select key franchises that cater to the audience that is willing to pay $600 for a console. THQ will have no PS3 titles in the launch window. The large publishers are not laying back in PS3 development and because of the size of the PlayStation ecosystem are forced to have a consistent presence to keep pace with industry growth.

Sebastian: There is no doubt that publishers are allocating resources more evenly among the three consoles at this point. The good thing for publishers is that they can shift development if it becomes apparent that one console is not performing up to expectations. I think by the time the PS3 launches in November, you will see a similar slate of titles as with the Xbox 360 last year, which is not a lot of titles.

Who will own holiday 2006?

Sebastian: I think the biggest risks to the launches are production issues and/or supply constraints, rather than consumer demand. The most likely scenario in my opinion is that each manufacturer declares their console a success this holiday with shortages likely at many stores.

Kamide: My bet is Nintendo--the company cannot afford to fail after a decade of disappointment and are throwing everything at it to make it right.

Pachter: Microsoft owns holiday 2006 on next-gen consoles, Sony owns the holiday overall (PS2 and PSP combined will outsell Xbox 360 by a lot). Nintendo may come in second in overall sales, since Microsoft has all but abandoned the Xbox and has no competitive portable product.

Who will win holiday 2007 and beyond?

Kamide: Well, if the software pipeline is as good as promised, then Nintendo should maintain the trend year-on-year.

Wilson: Either Microsoft or Nintendo. If you add in handheld exposure, Nintendo should win on a unit basis because of the DS.

Pachter: Sony wins holiday 2007, with Nintendo a surprise number two overall. Microsoft will do well, and I really think that on the consoles, this is a competitive race. My guess is that by 2010, Sony has 40 percent share and Microsoft and Nintendo each have 30 percent on the consoles. If Blu-ray is the standard early and HD-monitor sales reach full penetration by then, it's possible that Sony ends up with 50 percent. Microsoft will do well but can't compete if Blu-ray is the standard.

Sebastian: 2007 will shape up to be the more interesting year, as Microsoft could get to the point of cutting the Xbox 360 price and more mainstream consumers will need to make a choice between three compelling platforms.

Overall, what do you say to the PS3 naysayers--the game press and analysts who came down hard on Sony, claiming its E3 presentation underwhelmed and the pricing is ill advised?

Wilson: I do not believe that we have seen Sony's final strategy for the PS3 launch. Due to the reaction by gamers worldwide since Sony released launch pricing and feature sets, I think it's highly likely that we will see changes to the plan that has drawn so much ire.

Sebastian: Expect this to be a tighter race, but I wouldn't underestimate Sony at this point.

Kamide: My impressions to date are that the key PlayStation franchises will not be available at launch--the controller has suffered with the lack of rumble feature, high-definition is good but not altogether necessary, and questions are left over what online capabilities the platform will actually have. I'm not too concerned over the technical specifications as such, but surprisingly, after all that investment, Sony made it sound more like a hard sell to me than it has been for Xbox 360 and much less obvious in terms of differentiation compared to the Wii.

Pachter: Sony blew it by offering the $599 box. They should have added HDMI cables as an accessory later or modified the box once the 1080p monitor base expanded. They have confused most everyone (including David Cole [of DFC]) with their message and have inadvertently shifted the debate to pricing rather than features.

I'm not a fan and am not rooting for one over the other. Rather, I'm a pragmatist and don't think that most people buy consoles based upon price sensitivity at launch. How much did you pay for your first CD player? For your first DVD player? For your last TV set? A lot more than you could have paid by waiting or going cheaper. If Americans were so cost conscious, nobody would go to movies (rental is cheaper), eat out, drive cars (buses are cheaper), wear name brand clothing, etc., etc. Blue jeans cost $250, when you can still get them at the Gap for $50. Why? Because people are price insensitive.

Sony has a lot of brains in the area of marketing. This is about Blu-ray, and they intend to win that war. Watch the hype in September/October.

GameSpot: Gentlemen, thanks for your time.

669 Comments

  • RICHARDuk

    Posted Aug 30, 2006 11:15 pm GMT

    You americans make me laugh moaning about the $599 price tag you got it cheap. in europe add another $130 dollors to it. thats what we have to pay about $730. so stop moaning i wish i could get it for $599

  • mystes

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 5:12 pm GMT

    I dont know what you people are thinking, xbox360 will come in first, my ass it will, sony is the top in technology, not to mention the graphics on the ps3 are going to be impressive, 1080progressive support, with it's all powerful nvidia gpu, and the blazing fast cell processer, should I keep going, but, the only thing that im a little upset about is the bluray, I really dont think anybody is going to give a real crap that the dvd's are a bit enhanced, most poeple wont really care, because of bluray the price of the ps3 is enormous, for people that can afford it wont be complaining, for the people who cant, wait a bit till the price drops, trust me just give it a few months, and the price should be affordable. The wii, well forget it, it's not going to stand a chance, and believe me, not even yougsters are gonna going near that system, everybody has played mario, and eveybody has enough that shroom fiend, kids now or days, want to shoot the hell out of **** and want to see gore and flying guts, we live in a new era, nobody wants to jump on **** mushrooms and save the princess,no they dont, nintendo why cant you just grow up, seriously >_

  • zeldredz

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 3:31 pm GMT

    mandibles i go to school and work so shut the F!@# up cos i still cant afford that pice of S#$@ ps3

  • hrah

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 3:23 pm GMT

    I AGREE WITH mnt99donalds IM TIRED OF MARIO AND HIS ORIGINALS SEQUALS, ITS BEEN 20 YEARS OF MARIOS , IM 36 YEARS OLD AND PLAYED NEARLY EVERY MARIO GAME , NOW IM REALLY TIRED OF THE SAME OLD ,SAME OLD, AND EVEN THOUGHT I KNOW THAT THE X360 AND PS3 HAVE SEQUALS TO SOME OF THEIR GAMES TOO , MARIO IS NOT IN THEM, FOR ME THIS GENERATION ITS GONNA BE X360 AND PS3 !!!

  • kenshinhimura16

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 12:17 pm GMT

    Blu Ray disk are discs which can compress info in less space than others, the small size one is capable of holding 25 GB(almost as musch as a double layer HD-DVD) and its double layer version 50 GB. Every year information is growing bigger, and also game consumed space so not to long from now, Blu-Ray format will become the standard. If you think that not too long ago, a game of 1 or 1,5 Gigs was huge, and now they are standard you will understand what the possible outcome be.

  • Killer_Peanut

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 11:47 am GMT

    "pathogenb"
    "BajenVaNamnet
    PS3 is the only next-gen console you will ever need. Sony has never failed before, and they will not do so the next neneration either"

    yeah, the PSX was a HUGE hit. almost as much as the Mini Disc format!"

    Speaking of mini disks... what about gamecube? that was a also a HUGE hit.. I believe that the psp is doing quite well for a portable system for it being sony's first attempt. PSX.. japan only, stupid idea, ill admit that, didnt even hear about it in america unless you LOOKED for it. all in all, blue-ray will come out as the standard and it will give sony the push they need to become the best once again. you cant look at it in a 1-3 year basis, look farther into the future, say 5-7 years. also the fact that the ps3 is for more hardcore gamers and people with an interest of home entertainment, not just games. then again not everyone has a tv that can support 1080p (if im not mistaken) theres my two cents, and a wall of text.. enjoy.

  • LukeMadrid

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 10:53 am GMT

    Blue-Ray, Blue-ray... what the hell is it? Sure heard it a lot... is it a type of disc that we execpt DVDs to soon "turn into?"

    Boy I can't wait to buy a 700$ Blue-Ray... I mean... wait? What system is it again?

  • kewell06

    Posted Aug 29, 2006 6:45 am GMT

    wele....wele....

  • FearNinja

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 11:14 pm GMT

    Microsoft and Nintendo will definetly lead this time around.
    Microsoft wil lead because it has a good installed base and is bringing more japanese titles to its system. Although the FPS is what sells the most in North America. Nintendo will lead because of price and innovation, it also presents gamers with a new way to experiance thier games. PS3 will fall behind because of price and lack of innovation. Also as a japanese company they do have many japanese games. But the anime crap trend is fading.

  • pathogenb

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 11:02 pm GMT

    "quicksilverzxc
    The hardcore gamers wil be fractured between the 360 and PS3, but do not make the fatal error of dismissing everyone else. "

    well said!

  • pathogenb

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 11:01 pm GMT

    "So I say for now, the Wii and mid-2007, PS3. Gives the Wii the spotlight it deserve, and PS3 it's just desserts (and a price cut). "

    i think the PS3 would like apple pie!

  • pathogenb

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 10:59 pm GMT

    "BajenVaNamnet
    PS3 is the only next-gen console you will ever need. Sony has never failed before, and they will not do so the next neneration either"

    yeah, the PSX was a HUGE hit. almost as much as the Mini Disc format!

  • pathogenb

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 10:57 pm GMT

    "Think about it: a high end hardware with new tech (blu-ray)... that's sometihng many will wanna get. "

    i don't anyone who even cares about blu-ray.

  • Rengoku2TSTH

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 9:54 pm GMT

    PS3 is very expensive, so I'll wait 'till it gets cheaper. The PS2 was like the PS3 but It went cheap about 2 years. So if I were you, I'll buy the good PS3 games first like with MGS4 and RE5 because they are gonna be so FREAKEN hard to find in stores.

  • RahKayne

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 8:44 pm GMT

    can someone shut these analyst up.

  • YEPEE00

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 8:13 pm GMT

    no hd for me...means, listening to vile spit-mouth voice acting. Pah-Tao-ee!. meh hope, they fix text. they won't...becuse they like 'iddy to much.

  • Gadeos

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 8:12 pm GMT

    Next round??? PS3 V.S. Wii. Those two are going to be heading up while 360's not gonna match'em, even with one year of advantage. PS3 has it all, specially the $599 set; Wii will revolutionize with its controller innovation and gameplay change. Of course it sounds expensive at $599, but didn't everybody paid $300 for the PS2 before its ridiculous price drop??? Think about it: a high end hardware with new tech (blu-ray)... that's sometihng many will wanna get.

  • sailingmanuel

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 7:37 pm GMT

    There is going to a lot of people eating crow when the PS3 comes out and blows the rest away.

  • ooblah

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 7:06 pm GMT

    To Psyfon, you can't say the Wii is gonna flop like the cube, the Wii is gonna be bringing in people who don't play video games at all, and that's gonna count for a lot, not to mention it's die hard gamers. Now, I'm a fan of all three companies myself, owning a system from all three (PS2, GameCube, and XBOX 360), and I think they'll all do exceptionally well, but sad to say for Sony, unless Blue-Ray becomes the standard in media it'll fall short of it's competition. I project a strong Christmas season for all three, with the 360 and the Wii in a tie for first and PS3 second/last. In the future, who knows, technology is ever changing and the Wii will lack certain hardware that the other two have, but when it comes down to it, it's all about the games, the HD, the Blue-Ray, online gaming, they're all percs and should be focused on last.

  • Mandibles

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 7:01 pm GMT

    stop whining about the price an GET A F***ING JOB......jesus some ppl are real idiots...

  • hrah

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 6:57 pm GMT

    I AGREE WITH mnt99donalds IM TIRED OF MARIO AND HIS ORIGINALS SEQUALS, ITS BEEN 20 YEARS OF MARIOS , IM 36 YEARS OLD AND PLAYED NEARLY EVERY MARIO GAME , NOW IM REALLY TIRED OF THE SAME OLD ,SAME OLD, AND EVEN THOUGHT I KNOW THAT THE X360 AND PS3 HAVE SEQUALS TO SOME OF THEIR GAMES TOO , MARIO IS NOT IN THEM, ABOUT THAT SCUSE OF OF A NEW TECHNOLOGY IN CONTROLLER FROM NINTENDO, REALLY COULDN´T CARE LESS, BUT I COULD HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IF THEY HAD ADDED A VIRTUAL REALITY HELMET WITH MOTION SENSING TECHNOLOGY, BUT THAT REALLY IS EXPENSIVE, THAT YOU´LL NEVER SEE THAT COMING FROM NINTENDO, GOOD LUCK. (WITH NO INTENTION OF OFFENDING ANYONE, THIS IS JUST MY OPINION)

  • mystes

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 6:53 pm GMT

    christ, $600! you got to be **** kidding me, that's way to much money, but, Im a huge mgs fan, and if mgs4:guns of the patriots, is released on the ps3, im going to buy for sure, so far to me the xbox360 wasnt impressive at all to me, my computer look's and runs a whole lot better, believe me, my friend owns an xbox360, and dosent even play it, It's a boring system, not to mention the game's are also very lame, I know what your going to say, but they have dead rising on the 360, who cares, that game was boring to me too, and I bet, it will be released on ps3, and it will probably run better, but $600 is ALOT of money, but I've always loved sony, my bet is on sony there going to kick some ass. Also wii is going to probably suck, there controller is extremely strange, nintento just cant keep up anymore, yeah, way to much mario nintendo, and i dont give a **** if you make him in hd, that system is going to suck.......

  • buckincrazy

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 5:43 pm GMT

    600! dollars really sony really? thats no good

  • NevilleThegame

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 4:36 pm GMT

    I agree The $599 was stupid, LAck of rumble is a letdown and the fact that sony didnt convinced many ppl that thier system is worth the extra $100-$200 was stupid.

  • nev70

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 4:08 pm GMT

    hey guys i'm calm now that i got that off my chest and Psfon i could not agree with you more their all good systems in their own rite i just got a bit mad at mindless statements sorry.....

  • Psyfon

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 3:33 pm GMT

    I second that, calm down the nev70.

    The PS3, while it will have a lot more controvecy arouund the price, releice, etc. should be a good system. The Wii will boom when it's releced, then will follow the the GCN.

    The 360, despite it's issuses, with probbly continue to to do very well.

  • DaSupaFilipino

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 2:59 pm GMT

    Ok so the dude under me really needs to just chill, its night like acting like that will get any other type of attention, sorry but stop freaking out.


    now:

    In all honesty, I REALLY think nintendo wii will own alot of the holiday. Not only is nintendo the one that many parents enjoy to get for their kids, but its also going to be by far the cheapest this launch cycle. I love Sony, but they really need to get their crap together, because sounds like lately theres too much stress and they just died after multitasking so much.

    360 isnt doing too bad, if it keeps doing what its doing itll still be a good competitor.

  • nev70

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 1:16 pm GMT

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  • RediceMoon

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 12:42 pm GMT

    The wii is the best system of the three so who ever thinks its not is stupid because the system has great graphics and it a new way to play so i think it will be the best it game not graphic so if you think that u is stupid and why play the xbox 360 or the ps3 they boft suck because the play of the game is the same

  • mnt99donalds

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 8:42 am GMT

    Talking to all my mates about the new consoles, its pretty much even with the PS3 and Xbox360. Theres brand loyalty with the PS3 and the Xbox360 has a trusty online service.
    As for the Wii the controller doesn't cut it and were sick of Mario, where can we put him next??? In space and a long way away from civilisation, I think the Wii is very appealing in price and for families it will be great for a younger audience.
    With the 360 the games are getting better the online content is really good and with a price reduction imminent it should go well this holiday coming.
    Overall 2006/7 1st Xbox360 2nd Wii 3rd PS3 2007-2010 1st 360/PS3 3rd Wii

  • TrooperManaic

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 7:11 am GMT

    I love xbox but F*CK MICROSOFT!!!!! RIGHT IN ITS FAT, SHARE HOGGING CORPORATE A$$.

  • Brain_Fart

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 7:08 am GMT

    In my opinion Sony will fail 'initially' as a gamer platform, but will pick up the pace in due time. Only time will tell if the system will rock or bomb.

  • nev70

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 6:19 am GMT

    LuminosityBlaze
    Yea, I agree... SORRY TO MAKE A MISTAKE BIA'!!! Ok so those are figures are f-ing revenue okAY?! So then Sony takes IN MORE $ than Microsoft, and don't even try to disput that... WELL MICROSOFT MAKES BETWEEN $10 & $12 BILLION DOLLARS PROFIT PER FISCAL YEAR (ABOUT 3 BILLION PER QUARTER THATS HOW THEY POST THIER FIGURES)

    TELL ME WHAT WAS SONYS PROFIT LAST FISCAL YEAR ?????? PLEASE DO ,TURNOVER MEANS F*** A** ITS THE BOTTOM LINE THAT COUNTS...........................

  • LuminosityBlaze

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 6:10 am GMT

    Yea, I agree... SORRY TO MAKE A MISTAKE BIA'!!! Ok so those are figures are f-ing revenue okAY?! So then Sony takes IN MORE $ than Microsoft, and don't even try to dispute that... You can't tell me that Microsoft has that much more money than Sony, its a huge corporation thats been around almost twice as long..OK so I might not know business that well, but at least I actually know about the products which is more important and more than I can say about a lot of the people on here who are the real uninfomed ones. Sorry to misrepresent your precious Microsoft....................................

  • nev70

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 5:05 am GMT

    LuminosityBlaze
    MXVII- Microsoft: $40 Billion vs. Sony:$69 Billion (2005 figures).

    I AM SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE TALKING UNINFORMED S**T WHO CLEARLY DONT HAVE A CLUE ,WHERE THE F**K ARE YOUR FIGURES FROM MS WERE WORTH 185 BILLION 10 F******* YEARS AGO ,BILLS OWN PERSONNEL WEALTH IS AROUND 40 BILLION NOT MS'S.GET YOUR F****** FACTS STRAIGHT PLEASE.

  • Oddvaroev

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 3:47 am GMT

    Calm down peeps. It`s not about the consoles, but the games!

  • tony_fjellborg

    Posted Aug 28, 2006 1:44 am GMT

    Bygons!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Solidesnake2004

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 11:11 pm GMT

    My Response: Let Bygons.... Be Bygons!!

  • xXSocom

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 10:14 pm GMT

    everyone puts down the nintendo we buy games to have fun and this is nintendos stragedy i see ps3 as more of a multimedia system now then a gaming console i believe people will buuy it in the future but for now its all wii for about 2 years till the price of the ps3 stops and developers come out with sequels to the great games that came out on the ps2. as for xbox 360 i really its going to get last place in this just for the fact that it does not offer anything really new in my opinion.for now wii 1st and ps3 2nd

  • sirhamalot

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 10:01 pm GMT

    Well I don't know about all your points ilovesandrine, and I do agree that system wars are pointless. However most people do not want to hear is that they wasted 400 to 1000 dollars on a system, controllers, and subpar launch games, only to find that the system has a shelf life of 2 years. It happened with the Dreamcast (though I still got more enjoyment out of it than the rest of the current gen systems), the Saturn, the Neogeo, TG 16, and many more systems. Also not everyone is going to like all of the systems, I hate the PSX/PS2 controller/loadtimes/pixilated graphics/poor reliability, yet I liked the Virtual Boy because what it was supposed to do, it did well. To make a long story short I expect my XBOX 360 (just got it) to make it, I also expect the Wii to last many years, as far as the PS2 goes... well I will wait a couple of years and if it's still around and I trust that I will not have to buy a couple of them, and it has games worth playing, then I will buy one. Finally I will end by thanking God that my old high school english teacher (from 6 years ago) doesn't read these run on sentences.

  • ilovesandrine

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 8:33 pm GMT

    There all good game sytstems. Some of you talk crap about the PS3 because it cost to much and you can't afford it and some talk crap about xbox 360 because you could not find one and are hoppeing on getting a PS3 . They both have good games and bad ones . you people might just like to talk crab on the message boards. we are supost to like them all. come on the WII, PS3 XBOX 360 are all cool and none of them will do bad are good . Mircosoft, Nintendo,and Sony will be here for a long time. Also dose it really matter who wins do we get any of the money, no you just get to be a big guy or girl and say mine was the winner but really your just being a jerk with a small ego and if anyone's mad about this. Tuff . I dont care if a buch of guys or girls who still live at home get mad and call me names. The truth is it dosent matter wicth one wins to us.
    (yes i just took my old post and put it here )

  • jsratm

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 6:51 pm GMT

    gta was originally on the computer dude.

  • XBOXSUCKS847

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 5:58 pm GMT

    computers...yeah they are more powerful but if you are not a fan of fps or mmorpg its trash. and if you call the wii a small upgrade your a moron honestly think buisness(cheaper price=more sales)..computers are good but every month something new is out and more crappy doom ripoffs come out..jeez the pc needs to take in more genres.

  • papermario6528

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 5:51 pm GMT

    Wii will be second Ps3 first

    xbox360 third

    im going to get PS3 when the price goes down im not geting xbox360

    Wii is my first nex gen system im geting woot

  • 3leMenT

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 5:00 pm GMT

    slickrick1887 you tool, computers and game consoles work diffrent.......

  • LuminosityBlaze

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 4:46 pm GMT

    MXVII- Microsoft: $40 Billion vs. Sony:$69 Billion (2005 figures). Actually Sony has more money, don't forget that they have huge Movie and Record divisions where now days most of their money is made (and then pushed around the company), because we all know Sony elecronics division isn't the most stable when it comes to making $. Never underestimate Sony's ability to put their money where their mouth is... I think Sony is probably a much more expensive company to operate though too, so Microsoft still might have an advantage but it doesn't really matter. They are both HUGE companies with a lot of resources and their own strengths and weaknesses. If Sony can get their networking issues together then I think they can trump Microsoft in everyother aspect; Sony's biggest weakness is their networking but I think that the (PNP) is gonna change that and be better than XBOX Live!...

  • Flamingpostman

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 1:18 pm GMT

    It sounds good but the price is crazy for a game system and the games are really expensive to get they are like 70$ and Im not going to pay that money for games!!!

  • MXVIII

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 12:15 pm GMT

    Oh and for Engerys, GTA was originally on the Playstation, and Halo was the ONLY ORIGINAL game with any depth and motivational storyline for the xbox. But that game has been so overplayed and its going to be milked forever with the same SPARTAN killing the same aliens. Sony had alot of games that hell made some people cry. Final Fantasy Seven was the most depressing game some people have ever played, I mean everybody frieking died in that game, and what made Final Fantays so great was that every addtition to the series was new and original and had different stories and different characters, only when they started milking final fantasy seven does anyone have a problem. We just wanted a re-make not a million spin offs. Alot of the resident evil games had awesome storylines, even tho the movies sucked alot. But the game took something as lame as zombies and made it interesting and it wasnt even about the monsters you were killing it was about the company. Every time I picked up a new Rez I was like Oh sh** what did umbrella do this time. Hell look at metal gear solid that is one of the deepest frieking games period, and dont pull the oh they were on nintendo crap because that was back in the day when sony and nintendo still held hands and bought each other dinner. Zone of The Enders was another great game that came out for PS2 with another awesome sci-fi storyline yes it was based of an anime but the storylines were completely original. Devil May Cry the orignal was a good game that had an interesting demon love/hate story and satisfied gamers need for destroying things and didnt do a bad job with graphics/dialogoue/gameplay the camera angles did kinda suck sometimes tho. I mean the list goes on dude.....

  • MXVIII

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 11:52 am GMT

    If blue-ray is the standard PS3 will win, If not than X-box 360 will win, but niether company is going to lose money on their system. As exspensive as it is alot of people are going to buy PS3s. This is more a battle of who is a better company not who has the most money because duh microsoft does hands down. I do hope the PS3 does well and remains the big competitor, and the X-box fans should too, because Microsoft doesnt need to focus on the consoles at all because they get there most profit from other investments namely the internet. If Sony drops and Microsoft becomes top dog their games are gonna start losing quality, Its the competitiveness that keeps both sides cranking out awesome technology and new inovations, if theres no one better there is no incentive to improve. Microsoft fights the console war cuz thats a company that just doesnt want to be beat, its pride, and pride makes better games.

  • AliasUK

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 11:48 am GMT

    Too much to read. Summarise.

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