Bloomberg: PS3 launch won't show potential

Lack of details on machine's final specs leaves developers dry, wary; Sony CEO says as many as 15 titles at launch.

Sony has no doubt examined Microsoft's next-gen console gaming debut under a microscope, hoping to glean lessons it could apply to the PlayStation 3 launch later this year. But even with the cautionary tale of the Xbox 360 well documented, Sony will likely still have obstacles to face, says Bloomberg.

The biggest problem Sony faces, according to the news service, is the delay in delivering the final specs of its machine to developers. Without final development kits or information on the machine, games pegged for the PS3 launch won't be able to take full advantage of the system's capabilities.

"A lot of developers have not gotten the [PS3 development] kits," Sega of America president Simon Jeffery told Bloomberg. "There certainly will not be a lot of titles available [at launch]."

The fact that games don't really grow into the potential of the consoles they're made for until well into the system's life cycle is nothing new for Sony--but the timing is. With Microsoft reversing the roles of first-to-market, Sony will be hard pressed to show what its system can do immediately, especially given Microsoft's full year head start and the fact that the top-line PS3 is one and a half times the price of the high-end Xbox 360.

Sony Computer Entertainment CEO Kaz Hirai said that as many as 15 PS3 titles could be available for launch, slightly less than the 18 that the Xbox 360 launched with.

One reason for the shorter list could be apprehension, says Bloomberg. "It was too risky to do it," said THQ CEO Brian Farrell, explaining why his company's big-license game The Sopranos, due later this year, isn't in the works for the PS3. "It made no sense." The game will be released on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 2.

It will take both sense and cents to make games for the platform, says Janco Partners analyst Mike Hickey. "Developing for Sony's platform is incrementally more complex than what you're looking at for Microsoft or Nintendo," he said. The costs of making games for the PS3, which could reach the $25 million mark, could alienate cash-conscious third-party publishers.

Other developers are taking a "work with what you've got" approach. Ubisoft's CEO Yves Guillemot doesn't see much of a difference from the situation with the Xbox 360. "We won't be able to take advantage of all the components of the machine, but it was the same last year," he told Bloomberg.

Even with development well under way, the machine's complexities could result in the launch titles showing off only a portion of what the machine can do. According to Bloomberg, Activision's CEO Bobby Kotick believes that the first generation of PS3 games will use only about one-fifth of the Cell processor's potential.

As for Sony's take? Hirai simply says, "I don't think there will be too much of an issue."

256 Comments

  • Snakez4

    Posted Oct 24, 2006 12:58 am PT

    PS3's launch games are so kick ass and PS3 will show petential

  • bjn74

    Posted May 22, 2006 1:42 pm PT

    While I admit that the PS3 launch does not sound great, I will say this.

    1. The PS3 is more powerful then the 360. Has been confirmed(teamxbox.com or story).

    2. Blu-Ray will win over HD-DVD. Just live VHS over BETA and recently DVD beat out DIVX. Look at who is supporting what. It may be more expensive at first, but it has more movie studio support and more storage. Even though if you go to DVDEMPIRE.COM you can read a biased towards HD-DVD review that not only escalates the price of launch players, but states they wont be out until late summer(ridiculous).

    3. How is FREE ONLINE an argument against PS3. That is argument for PS3. Xbox is going to have to rethink its pricing now. And that is where they are making there money.

    4. NO HDMI for basic. SO WHAT?!? Not everyone will want the HD. Some people wont be able to get an HD set in the next few years. Woopdeedoo..

    5. And yes,,unlike the XBOX 360s FAILED attempt at backwards compatibility, PS3 will be able to play ( I dont want to say all because PS2 couldnt play like 2 or 3 PS1 games, because of reasons other than licenses) 99.99% of games.

    6. Linuxed based! Fine by me. Their is a reason that 360s (including mine) have died from updates and crash constantly. Its because its now basically a PC!! TIVO runs on Linux and so do many, many other peoples PC's with no problem, but Windows is nothing to brag about.

    7. Lets not talk about the 360 launch. I remember hearing something about 30-50 games in the launch window. The 37th game is releasing this week. I would say their is only 5 standouts and 4 ok games. And thats a fact. (Let me know if their is more) Also, is their any particular reason so many 360s had problems at launch? That didnt happen with PS2 and it wont with PS3.

    Bottom line is dont put the PS3 down yet. Microsoft lost money for every XBOX 1 produced and the same with 360. It has an add-on HD-DVD which is fine because its a gaming machine, and it should be up to the consumer if he wants to watch movies. The PS3 is aimed as a multimedia machine. And lets all sit back and wait until the winter 07/spring 08 when all systems have 2nd and 3rd gen games out (HALO 3, RE 5, GTA, etc...), supply is full enough for people to walk in the store and buy any system they want , and people are enjoying movies on Blu-Ray.

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 22, 2006 12:26 pm PT

    Look at this:

    The Playstation 3 Value Proposition
    The console may be expensive - but it's not overpriced.
    By Carl Bender - May 21, 2006

    Out of all the announcements Sony made during their pre-E3 conference two weeks ago, probably none has resonated more loudly than the announcement of the price for the upcoming console. Starting at $500 the system is not cheap, and even longtime Sony loyalists are waking up to the fact that when November rolls around this year, there will be decidedly less expensive alternatives to consider should half a grand seem a little too rich for their blood.

    But now that the dust has begun to settle and people are starting to get over the initial shock of the announcement, it's time to look a little more closely at what exactly Sony is offering the consumer for the price being asked.

    We'll start with the base console.

    Called 'crippled' by many, the truth is the base model can be considered crippled only when compared to its more expensive sibling. When compared to its nearest rival on the other hand - the premium XBox 360 - the basic Playstation 3 matches it feature for feature... and then goes farther.

    The most obvious addition over the XBox 360 is of course the Blu-ray drive. The favored next-generation optical format among the majority of movie studios, it's inclusion in the Playstation for a $100 premium grants the consumer a feature that would otherwise cost roughly a thousand dollars to obtain via a standalone player. In addition, the PS3 supports DTS audio for the audiophiles out there (not to mention SACD), whereas the XBox 360 is limited to Dolby.

    Lack of HDMI and the possible use of ICT-flagging on next-gen media does, however, remain a cloud over the BD playback capabilities of the base PS3. On any Blu-ray films that were to utilize ICT, output would be limited to a 960x540 image (DVD is 720x480) instead of Blu-ray's potential maximum of 1920x1080. At the moment though, no film studio has announced an intent to use ICT-flagging in their shipped products. In fact, Sony has already come out as saying they will not use ICT on their own Blu-ray video releases (Sony owns Columbia, MGM, and Sony Pictures). If other studios follow Sony's example, then for the next several years there would be very little shortfall in owning a component-equipped PS3 vs an HDMI-capable unit.

    Over on the gaming side of things, the promise of an online network emulating many of Live Golds key features - while at the same time remaining free from a service charge - will present consumers with the opportunity to save the $50 per year charged by Microsoft for subscription-based Gold service. For those who game online, this savings alone would pay for the price difference between the two consoles after just two years; calculated five years out, this would actually provide a savings relative to the premium 360 of $150. And with a hard drive present on all SKUs, the Playstation 3 allows developers the freedom to build games around the hard drive and with the hard drive in mind. Though still useful on the 360, the requirement that all games shipped for the system work on non-HDD equipped systems puts a limit on the maximum potential of the 360 hard drive in a gaming environment.

    When moving up to the Playstation 3 'luxury' edition, for the additional price of an XBox 360 WiFi adaptor or an extra 20GB hard drive, owners of the upgraded Playstation gain not only high-speed wireless, but a tripling of the hard drive size, a multi-format card reader, and the next-generation of HDMI interface. Superior to the HDMI solutions available today, HDMI 1.3 will raise the color information carried per channel to 16 bits from the present 12 bits, and allow audio to be carried via the HDMI cable as well. A compatible HDTV set will be required to make full use of this added functionality though, and for a lot of people this will essentially render HDMI 1.3 no more or less attractive than HDMI 1.2 for the next several years. Still, on a high-end A/V device, forward-compatability is always appreciated.

    In the end, the launch price of the Playstation 3 puts the system out of the reach of many consumers that might otherwise desire one. Luckily for Sony, this does not look like it will greatly effect the demand for the console during the launch window itself. After that period, it will be up to Sony to take advantage of falling processor and Blu-ray component costs to drop the price of the console as rapidly as possible for the benefit of the mainstream consumer.

    For those that can afford a Playstation 3 at launch, however, the system represents a compelling value across a number of fronts. On top of that, when factoring in certain accessory prices and possible online gaming fees, in several scenarios the PS3 may actually come out ahead in total cost of ownership relative to the XBox 360.

    For the capabilities offered in the PS3, the word "overpriced" is certainly misused when applied to it.

  • jwallace

    Posted May 22, 2006 10:21 am PT

    if memory serves the ps2 was released in japan 97-98 so thats 8 or 9 yrs,
    correct.

    It was released in Japan on March 4, 2000

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 22, 2006 1:55 am PT

    i don't have time to reply at ur non-fended comments, most of ur facts r wrong or already known, so u just talked for talking... the part where i said that the PS3 will have the HD DVD is a typing mistake, i wanted to say Blu-ray. But wait till tomorrow to see my response.

  • Mackilroy

    Posted May 21, 2006 10:49 pm PT

    mgsseries4life: nice to see you're a Sony fanboy. I hope you don't mind Sony screwing you with the PS3.

    To rebut your points: True HD is 720p/1080i/1080p. So, therefore, the X360 also outputs 'true' HD. As for the difference between 1080i and 1080p, it's barely noticeable once you get to TVs 35 inches and bigger.

    FPUs – the PS3 has a THEORETICAL maximum of 1.8 TFLOPS performance of the Cell processor. The RSX card has the 550 MHz clock speed. However, it doesn't have the same type of shader architecture as the X360's card, nor does it have as many pipelines. So they're quite a bit closer than you seem willing to admit.

    So, the Cell surpasses the Xenon? While I agree that the Cell is undoubtedly more powerful than the processor that will be in the Wii, against the X360 all I see is fanboyism on your part.

    Blu-ray – I'm afraid I have to disagree with you on quite a few points here. First, the PS3 will not include an HD-DVD player – that's tacitly admitting Microsoft and HD-DVD have won, which Sony won't do. Second, games don't need 54 Gb of space. You know what takes up most space in games these days? Speech and video. Not general game data, which is what you're looking for. So, fail on that.

    Further arguments against the PS3 – no built-in WiFi for the basic, free online that is completely unproven and will probably end up like Live, no HDMI on basic and only one port on Premium, only partly backwards-compatible (sorry to burst your bubble about full backwards compatibility, but the PS3 won't be able to play all PS1/2 games, only those that meet a set of arbitrary requirements by Sony, which right now is somewhere between 50-75 % of all PS games), and a Linux-based OS? Don't make me laugh. There's a reason Windows and the Mac OS are more popular than Linux.

    Really? Source? Not true high-def? Well, if they weren't true-high def, how were they actual in-game screenshots? Isn't that completely illogical? "Oh, this is what the game looks like, but not really" is what you seem to be saying.

    One point which I will agree with you on: games will be better as the console ages.

    I hope I've cleared up the fog mgsseries has thrown up.

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 21, 2006 8:48 pm PT

    look:

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 21, 2006 8:48 pm PT

    I have seen alot of complaints as to the cost of the PS3. I think that the following should help you understand why this is not as unreasonable as it seems.

    Let me first discuss the graphics. By this time everyone know the outputs. PS3 will be outputting true HD (at this time) of 1080p. The Xbox360 isnt far behind outputting 1080i. Although the screen resolution is the same, essentialy the PS3 refeshes it's screen twice as many times a minute (For thoes that don't know: 1080i is an interlaced screen, "spraying" every other line 60 times a second essentially giving you 30 frames per second, while 1080p is a progressive screen "spraying" every line 60 times a second essentially gicing you 60 frames per second). Now while this difference doesnt seem all that noticeable the interlaced screen may appear slightly chopy. Now not to rag on the Wii, but it will be outputting 480p, which doesnt come close to comepeting with the PS3.

    Now besides the output the systems have different graphics processors, and while I don't know everything about the GPU (Graphic Processing Unit), the major specs I have are that the PS3 has 1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance running at 550MHZ, and the Xbox360 only has 1 TFLOPS and runs at 500MHZ. The PS3 also surpases the 360 graphics in other ways, and from what I know, they suggest that the PS3 is twice as powerful as the 360. (The Wii has not output specifics as to my knowledge.)

    Moving on quickly to the power of the systems. I know you all are tired of hearing it but its all in the cell. It truly is an amazing piece of technology. It does in everyway surpass what the Xbox360 and the Wii have to offer.

    Now, onto the subject of blu-ray. The blu-ray disk format does so much for the PS3. It not only provides more space to the developers for added game content, it alows for less data compression, and faster streaming rates, thus lowering loading times. Also the addition of the blu-ray player provides consumers with a low priced fully functioning blu-ray player which will share, if not control the home movie media market (HD-DVD may also catch on). Of course the PS3 will include an HD-DVD player, so there really is no worry if blu-ray catches on. Of course if blu-ray does catch on the technology will become easier and easier to produce and prouction prices will go down, and we could see a reduction in game prices due to less material costs of the disks.

    Further arguments in favor of the PS3 include: Built-in WiFi, free online features (which include video chat, and downloadable content), HDMI output, full backwards-compatiablity, firmware updates, linux based OS (Operating System), and more.

    Finally in response to a previous "review" the reason of the "low" quality game content at E3 was that most games weren't more than 50% complete, and were not outputting true high-def. Also at this time games only are using about 20% of the cell processor (so I read), and it will take awhile for developers to get used to the system and its capabilities. I expect that in the future games will become much better.

    As a quick side note I would like to mention that the PS3 is reportedly to be extremely silent, compared to the 360 which is extremely noisy.

    Still it is a matter of opinion, and this is only mine. The PS3 is not only a game machine, it is a mulitmedia device. Compared to the price of normal blu-ray players, which will most likely be priced in the thousands, a fully functional one will be within the PS3 for only $600.

    Hope I helped to clear a few things up, or to pursade some that were on the fence. Persoanlly I cannot wait to get my hands on a PS3.

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 21, 2006 4:42 pm PT

    From PS3 Portal:
    Sony told EB and GameStop that they would be supplying 3 million consoles at launch worldwide, 1 million more than they claimed at E3. They also broke it down by region: an even cool million for each Japan, NTSC and PAL. Please note that Sony informed retailers that these were launch day figures.

    Sony Computer Entertainment America reportedly stated that gaming would be free, stating: "Please note that online gaming will be free right out of the box."

    Sony has touted free online as an advantage over Microsoft's free XBox LIVE account, called a "Silver" account, which does not include online gaming as one of its services. The pricing structure for premium and downloadable content has still not been outlined
    ....
    See that’s another thing that justifies the 500$ or 600$ for the PS3.
    ....
    and here is a list of the games that will be released on November 17, 2006 for the PS3 launch:

    November 17, 2006 Warhawk Sony Computer Entertainment Flight Action
    November 17, 2006 Resistance: Fall of Man Sony Computer Entertainment Shooter
    November 17, 2006 John Woo Presents Stranglehold Midway Games Action Adventure
    November 17, 2006 Fatal Inertia KOEI Racing Action
    November 17, 2006 Alone in the Dark Atari Adventure
    November 17, 2006 EA Sports Fight Night Round 3 Electronic Arts Sports
    November 17, 2006 Call of Duty 3 Activision Shooter
    November 17, 2006 Madden NFL 07 Electronic Arts Sports
    November 17, 2006 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas Ubisoft Shooter
    November 17, 2006 Sonic the Hedgehog SEGA Platformer
    November 17, 2006 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07 Electronic Arts Sports
    November 17, 2006 NBA Live 07 Electronic Arts Sports
    November 17, 2006 WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2007 THQ Wrestling
    November 17, 2006 Full Auto 2: Battlelines SEGA Racing Action
    November 17, 2006 Marvel: Ultimate Alliance Activision Action RPG
    November 17, 2006 Ridge Racer 7 Namco Racing
    November 17, 2006 NHL 2K7 2K Sports Sports
    November 17, 2006 Tony Hawk's Project 8 Activision Sports
    November 17, 2006 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years War KOEI Action

    Actually this line up is very impressive.

  • i_love_my_ds

    Posted May 21, 2006 4:03 pm PT

    Why buy the PS3 when you can buy the Wii for 3 times less?

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 21, 2006 3:50 pm PT

    My 360 cost me 570$ with its must have accessories without taxes. MS strategy is making people think that their console is cheap but then make them buy a lot of accessories to play like the WIFI adapter, HD DVD player and so on and so far... So actually the PS3 is way cheaper if we consider the higher technology it has and all the new features that my 360 doesn’t have like Bluetooth, HDMI, WIFI, 1080p, 7 controller, so on and so far! The 360 is a PC-LIKE console, it's not even a real one and plus it freezes each min. MS has to get out of the console industry and do what they do best, screw people with their Windows monopoly.

  • koknarr

    Posted May 21, 2006 12:08 pm PT

    SONY WILL PULL THIS OF IN STYLE,you'll see fellas.some time 2007 they will be marching towards one more victory.in bussiness tommorows chicken is better than todays egg.

  • fodonico

    Posted May 21, 2006 10:46 am PT

    R6 Vegas, Stranglehold and sonic are launch games???

  • briang21

    Posted May 21, 2006 10:11 am PT

    Stupid Sony went and got too ambitious for their own good. Looks like the demise of their empire is at hand...

  • bobreturns

    Posted May 21, 2006 6:34 am PT

    i doubt the ps3 will sell as much as the ps2 becuase of its price and its lack of launch titles with the wii i am not sure about how many lauch games there will be but there is the virtual console so that is like having 1000's of games already made.

    i don't think anyone will be able to nock sony out of the game market just because of sony they have so much money the main company can just keep giving them money

  • bunty_007

    Posted May 21, 2006 5:42 am PT

    Wow

  • smack1

    Posted May 20, 2006 8:29 pm PT

    mgsseries4life: Let's look at your points:

    1a. The cell is very powerful. The nvidia is less powerful than the ati in the xbox 360 and the overall ps3 console architecture seems less sophisticated than the xbox 360. i didn't really believe this until i started reading all of the developer comments about the entire architecture.

    1b. We'll have to see about backwards compatibility. If it is 100%, it's a great library, but they no longer have the hardware advantage of ps2 -> ps1. They are emulating everything in the same vein that xbox 360 is and this is reasonably difficult. have to see it to believe it.

    2. Blu-ray is fine, but since developers are currently developing to dvd storage requirements, we don't know if this is a feature forced on the consumer or not. ultimately this is a chicken/egg scenario and i'm willing to just wait it out.

    3. Free playsation network makes me really, really nervous. This is something that I would almost rather pay for. It's nice to hold a company accountable for support and quality of service for something like this. XBox Live, in general, is really very very good and it's less than $4 / month.

    4. the ps3 is no longer a router so gigabyte anything doesn't mean as much.

    5. Wireless is good. Except the lower end ps3 doesn't have it. (bluetooth, yes, 802.11, no.)

    6. Agreed. big mistake on microsoft not to include some drive space with every system.

  • megaskrilz

    Posted May 20, 2006 2:17 pm PT

    halo3's trailer had the in game graphics engin and thats not even the best the game can look , thats the best graphics iv ever seen , there is nothing that sonys ps3 has shown that is immpressive besides mgs4 , o and for u ppl that thought sonys strat staying in the shadows while 360 came out, well now sonys in alot of **** they cant even tell ppl what there system is gana have and yea xbox 360 where messed up when they came out, but sony is know for systems breaking, so i hope u have ur 500$ to buy it and get it fixed

  • Killian420

    Posted May 20, 2006 2:13 pm PT

    I'm not supprised at all, most of us knew sony nuts are in a vice, and microsoft and nintendo are clamping down. RIP ps3

  • lilpjayz

    Posted May 20, 2006 12:18 pm PT

    Sounds like the PS3 will have a bad launch. We already know that PS3's will freeze like the one on the E3 floor. I can just see a bunch of people shipping off their defective Ps3 and getting another one. We all know Sony counts those defective replacements as units sold. The 360 launch line up was great, with 2 great games (COD2, PDZ) and a bunch of solid games. The Wii launch line up might be the best of all-time. I'm going to pass on PS3 because MGS isn't worth 600 dollars.

  • Kairin

    Posted May 20, 2006 9:02 am PT

    arsneo said "i am not saying that days of sony are over i am saying that many casual gamers who don't want to dish out 600 dollars will definitely be opting for 360"
    I see myself as a hardcore gamer, but there is no way in hell im paying 425 quid (almost 800 dollars) for a ps3, i can easily get a 360 AND a wii for cheaper come november

  • Truskills

    Posted May 20, 2006 8:11 am PT

    why are yall worried about the games at launch?? 360 didnt have many games at launch either and ppl bought it.. what makes the ps3 any different?

  • Da_Mainman_3

    Posted May 20, 2006 5:25 am PT

    Sony seems to be trying to make console gaming an arcane affair, much like PC gaming is to most people today.

    At least 70% of PS2 owners are 'casual' gamers who bought one because it was cheap and popular, and something which could play DVDs. The next Playstation is a behemoth of a machine with too much for the average consumer to understand, or indeed afford. The casual gamers won't like that. They'll need to find something else that's easier to understand, and definitely easier to afford.

    Thus, you could quite easily justify that P$3 will slip into third place behind the 360 and the Wii. Want a GTA sequel? Buy a 360. Want to buy something that's fun on all levels? Buy a Wii. Both will play DVDs anyway, so either one will suit the needs of a casual gamer. But a Wii is much cheaper than 360, so that's the one that most will go for in the end.

    I know that there are hundreds of thousands of people out there who will buy a P$3 no matter what. Good for you, you can afford and understand it. But you're not the majority of the market. Think; why did the DS outsell the PSP by such a margin? Because the DS attracted both casual and diehard fans at the same time. That's one large fanbase, and one very large majority of the market. The same scenario could repeat itself in the home console market, especially since both Nintendo and Sony are sticking to their DS/PSP marketing strategies.

    Believe what you will about the future of the home consoles, it may still be too early to call. But I've never known Sony to be anything but predictable, so I wouldn't hold your breath. In fact, after announcements like this from Bloomberg and various game developers, diehard PS fans are starting to look like the gaming equivalent of David Blaine.

  • arsneo

    Posted May 20, 2006 4:18 am PT

    it's not the graphics that truly count in playing games it's the gameplay itself. and i thought 360 was expensive but by looking at ps3 's price i am horror striken and there will only be 15 launch titles.sony has completely lost it this time i am not saying that days of sony are over i am saying that many casual gamers who don't want to dish out 600 dollars will definitely be opting for 360 and also i've decided to buy a 360 because of halo 3.

  • MikeS_72

    Posted May 19, 2006 8:25 pm PT

    Hardware is like the most important thing. Cus if im going to pay all that money i want something good and that will last for a long time. I had my PS2 since the year it came out and the graphics r still awesome.

  • tait007

    Posted May 19, 2006 6:25 pm PT

    Doesn't sound good for Sony. The smart money seems to be on waiting a year for the better titles to come out and for the price of the system to go down. I still have my PS2 and it sounds like there are plenty of good titles coming out for it; like NFL Head Coach, God of War II and Guitar Hero II; to keep me entertained for at least another year.

  • mgsseries4life

    Posted May 19, 2006 5:52 pm PT

    Now consider this, if Sony will be selling the PS3 in Great Britain for almost $800 (US equivalent), that means that the system must cost at least $900 to manufacture.
    In other words, everyone who goes out and buys a PS3 for $600 is getting a 33% discount courtesy of Sony.

    And here's what you'll get for your $600:

    1) You'll receive the most powerful gaming system (Cell based processor) with the largest gaming library in the world (backwards compatible with PS2 and PS1 games). Games already announced for the PS3 include:Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, Final Fantasy XIII, Killzone PS3, Resident Evil 5 and Devil May Cry 4.

    2) You'll receive a Blu-Ray player which supports 1080p resolution for games and movies. One Blu-Ray disc can hold 53 GB of data.

    3) You'll receive free basic online service throuigh the PlayStation Network Platform. Also includes standard web browser and media player.

    4) Built-in Gigabit Ethernet.

    5) Built-in wireless networking capability, including support for 802.11g, 802.11b and Bluetooth.

    6) Built-in HDD.

    7) Linux pre-installed to allow for homebrew development.

    built in WIFI

    9).......ect

    10)... so much more...

  • kojinto

    Posted May 19, 2006 4:26 pm PT

    hmm lets see first i gotta spend $600 on the PS3 then i gotta spend another $160 on two games and maybe another $50 on accessories, thats like $800 no way am i gonna spend that much money on a console who's controller doesnt even have rumble hahahaha

  • quicksilver987

    Posted May 19, 2006 12:15 pm PT

    plz god plz.... let it be *this* november

  • waynehead895

    Posted May 19, 2006 9:33 am PT

    Other than RE which will also be on 360 and Wii. I'll pass. MGS is good but i don't really play it. DMC is alright but call me when GoW is out or Ninja Gaiden regardless of which next gen system it's on.

    Will the PS3 still support 7 wireless controllers? Which is ridiculous really. Maybe certain games will take advantage, but who really needs seven players on one screen. Four is enough.

  • orionamra

    Posted May 19, 2006 8:55 am PT

    Same begin for all new console in all generations. At the end Sony games will rule. Everybody want a FF, MGS, RE, KH, Tekken, Ridge Racer, DMC, Mega Man games. If all of you want quality games PS3 is the answer.

  • ClaudeLv250

    Posted May 19, 2006 12:12 am PT

    Eh...doesn't bother me. I'm not getting a PS3 at launch anyway. Lack of good titles + ridiculously expensive price has seen to that. I'll wait for some price drops. Besides, Nintendo steamrolled them with their own press conference. The Wii should keep my satisfied long enough for PS3 to either flop or drop in price to the poitn where I can afford one and it'll have some good games.

  • darendt69

    Posted May 19, 2006 12:04 am PT

    if the games shown are 1 fifth the cells potential than sony has nothing to worry about. It doesnt matter if the 360 has more games at launch cause most of them sucked anyway. They need to focus on getting us the key games and make sure they look amazing and play well. The price isnt an issue, it will sell out regardless.

  • daftfan

    Posted May 18, 2006 7:50 pm PT

    The launch it's confirmed, pirriot.

  • stpaul

    Posted May 18, 2006 5:16 pm PT

    y'know games are one thing, and they're obviously critical to the success of any gaming console, but price also factors in considerably. i may well eventually become a ps3 owner, but not at 500-600 dollars. sony's pricepoint hit my own personal glass ceiling. so, yeah, i'm sitting out launch and probably the first few years of the systems lifespan (provided it has one - the preceeding article doesn't really bode well, does it?). and unless it just totally blows the 360 out of the water, i may never buy it. pricing themselves out of reach of the average consumer wasn't a very smooth move on sony's part, especially with high energy costs and fears of inflation already starting to drag the economy down. there just isn't going to be as much disposable income circulating. i don't know - maybe ps3 will find it's niche as a wealthy geek's status symbol. we'll see.

  • Mario562

    Posted May 18, 2006 4:43 pm PT

    What the hell is sony doing. The development cost for a game is around 25 million. They should really stop worrying about the graphics of there system. We want games Sony games.

  • nemes1s3000

    Posted May 18, 2006 3:42 pm PT

    Better be a joke.

  • clqtte

    Posted May 18, 2006 2:36 pm PT

    I'm not worry,because I'm going to buy PS3 no matter what in November of 2008.

  • jimbo102671

    Posted May 18, 2006 1:08 pm PT

    I don't recall any system that realized its full potential at launch. If it does so this quickly, then the system will be branded as severly limited. To prove the point, just check out a triple-A late title beside a triple-A launch title for the same (current or prior) system. In most cases, the difference should be like night and day.

  • cesarotromundo

    Posted May 18, 2006 12:48 pm PT

    i dont care about sony ever since they copied the function of the nintendo Wii controller.

  • funky_muzic

    Posted May 18, 2006 12:45 pm PT

    If Sony does not quickly get a desirable install base of the PS3, they will definitely have a shortage of games. If it costs so much to make a game, with all of that technology, it won't be worth it unless there is a sizable install base of systems. I predict the PS3 to go the way of the Dreamcast, with Sony rebounding (first out of the gates) with a cheap, game-centric system that is similar to the Wii. They're probably working on it right now!

  • nroehrig

    Posted May 18, 2006 12:19 pm PT

    The PS3 won't hit it's stride until a few years into the console anyway.

    Look at the PS2 for example. Games released on the system later in it's life blow away any of the initial releases for the console. God of war, anyone?

    The 360 may have a nice headstart, but two or three years down the road, nothing will be able to compare to the power of the PS3.

  • GKBeetle

    Posted May 18, 2006 10:44 am PT

    grnidbandit
    im gonna crack up when MS charhes 360 owners $200-$300 for a HD DVD add one

    I'd rather have to OPTIONALLY add the player on than have a BLU-RAY player that's required to make the console work as a game machine and raises the base system up 200 dollars. I don't plan to get the HD-DVD add on. I only plan to play games with my Xbox 360. I'm a gamer, not a movie buff.

  • grnidbandit

    Posted May 18, 2006 10:23 am PT

    im gonna crack up when MS charhes 360 owners $200-$300 for a HD DVD add one

  • xrong99

    Posted May 18, 2006 10:08 am PT

    we're only using 1/5 it's power ,but will we be able to use other 4/5 of it's power at all ? i can't tell that much different between xbox360 and ps3 games except sony said they are better !?! can they show something besides those numbers?

  • gibb1

    Posted May 18, 2006 9:43 am PT

    only hope they can release it on time, just that

  • chrisdojo

    Posted May 18, 2006 9:26 am PT

    15 games at launch? riiiiiight.

  • nujack

    Posted May 18, 2006 8:47 am PT

    no one is brainwashed. if you enjoy your 360, fine do so. i also so enjoy mine and i'll enjoy the PS3 when i ships. if hate it dont buy it, but dont attack
    others if they want to purchase whatever they want. and as for the hype, its
    the name of the game, everybody hypes.

  • sabru8

    Posted May 18, 2006 8:32 am PT

    c'mon.....you know it will go well for sony.

  • nujack

    Posted May 18, 2006 8:29 am PT

    If you dont treat the unit like a toy , but like the way you treat any piece of electronic equipment (tv, pc, dvd,etc) it'll last. ive NEVER have had to send
    ANY of my stuff back for rapairs of ANY kind what so ever. i commonly see
    players leaving the unit running for hours on carpeted floors, kicking them
    while playing and other abuses. you wouldn't do that to your tv, would you?
    i wouldnt.

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