D.I.C.E. 2006: Moore promises more for PCs

  • By Tor Thorsen, Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
  • Posted Feb 10, 2006 4:01 pm PT

Microsoft executive apologizes for his company's recent "dereliction of duty" in supporting its "number-one platform;" shows off game-centric features of forthcoming Vista OS.

LAS VEGAS--Peter Moore is sorry. As he kicked off his Friday address at the D.I.C.E. Summit, the corporate vice president of Microsoft's interactive entertainment division apologized for the nasty cold he picked up at the Super Bowl in Detroit the prior week. He was also sorry for being "the only suit here up on stage hawking my wares."

Moore's real regret, however--which he repeated over and over again throughout his address--was that Microsoft has been neglecting the PC as a gaming platform. "I want to apologize for the dereliction of duty to our company's number-one platform, the PC, in terms of gaming," he told a crowd still recovering from the previous evening's award ceremony. "We've been a little distracted for the past few years," he said, referring to the company's drive to release the Xbox 360. "Mea culpa, we've been busy."

Moore also apologized for the shortage of Xbox 360s. "We took a three-continent view of the Xbox 360," he said, referring to the console's near-simultaneous launch in the US, Japan, and Europe. "Controversial? Yes. Clearly it's caused some short-term shortages in all three territories." Moore promised those present that, "You should be able to walk into a store in the next four to six weeks and see [Xbox 360] hardware on shelves."

Before going on to cover his speech's main subject, "The Changing World of PC Games," Moore took the time to tout some Xbox 360 statistics. Though he gingerly avoided overall hardware sales figures, Moore was more than happy to talk up the fact that the 360 has had a "record attach rate" of four games and three accessories for each console sold. He also made much of the fact that 50 percent of all Xbox 360 owners use Xbox Live, of which the basic Silver edition is free, versus just 10 percent of original Xbox owners, who had to pay a subscription fee.

"Our focus is the connected state between the gamer in their living room and the PC and the outside world as a whole," boasted Moore. "Xbox Live is the distinguishing factor between us and our competitors--they want to see a character on screen and know that's a real-life person in New York, London, or, eventually, Beijing."

The executive also made a point of promoting the success of the Xbox Live Marketplace. He said, to date, over four million "pieces of content" have been downloaded via Marketplace, including games, skins, and demos. He also said that the popularity of movie trailers on the service has made "Hollywood take notice," and hinted that Microsoft may soon begin to offer a range of music downloads on the service. "Music is just starting on Marketplace," he said.

Moore also offered Xbox Live Arcade as an "alternative platform" to developers beset by the high cost of next-generation development. "Xbox Live Arcade is bringing entertainment that is less intimidating to the consumer and conditioning consumers to play online," he said, adding that there have been two million downloads on the service to date. He also underlined its "high conversion rate," which sees an average of 20 percent of people who download a demo for an Xbox Live Arcade game going on to buy the game itself. For the service's most popular game, Geometry Wars, that rate is 36 percent.

"We will continue to invest, invest, and invest in Xbox Live Arcade," Moore said. "It will broaden the audience...We think of Xbox Live Arcade as a new platform for independent developers--it's the Sundance [Film Festival] of the game world."

After neglecting the subject of PC gaming for a few more minutes, Moore showed off some of the game-centric features of the forthcoming Windows Vista operating system. Set for release later this year, Vista has several core features targeted specifically at gamers.

First, "Games" will be an option embedded into the Windows start menu, just as the "My Documents" and "My Pictures" folders are in Windows XP. Vista will have its own dedicated "games explorer," which shows all games installed on the computer in one place. It will also have an option to display basic game information, such as publisher, developer, ratings, and Web sites, via a metadata system.

Casual gaming will also be emphasized in Vista. Microsoft is looking to re-create the success of Solitaire and Minesweeper, albeit with games that don't wear their age quite so readily on their sleeves. Moore showed off Chess Titans, a slick 3D take on the ancient strategy game.

As with the next-generation gaming consoles, Vista will have parental controls for gaming built in. Unlike most current parental control methods, the system doesn't block games based on their overall rating; rather, it will allow parents to disallow play based on specific game content descriptors, like "blood and gore" or "strong sexual content." Parents will also be able to regulate how much time their children can play games, with an Outlook-like schedule that lets them restrict gaming to certain hours of the day.

With Vista, Moore said Microsoft is also looking to simplify the installation process, saying it's scaring away a lot of consumers in its current form. The goal, he said, is to make it as simple a plug-and-play process as one would find on a console. Moore then talked about DirectX 10 and its Direct3D renderer, highlighting the detail it could create in 3D environments, ranging from whitecaps on water to individual blades of grass and rays of sunlight.

Pretty visuals don't help out much if a game crashes every five minutes, however. Microsoft evidently understands this, as it is also emphasizing stability as a key point of Windows Vista gaming.

In addition to the presentation, Moore answered some questions from the audience. When asked about the process of getting content up on Xbox Live Arcade, Moore said that Microsoft has a dedicated platform team specifically for Marketplace, and that more nongaming content, like the movie trailers that are currently available, is on its way. "Music is starting to get put up there," he noted.

Another audience member brought up a recent BusinessWeek article in which Moore talked about a possible Microsoft-built competitor for Apple's iPod. In that article, Moore was quoted as saying that whatever device Microsoft came up with, it would have to be more than just Microsoft's version of the iPod. The article explored the possibility that such a competing product would include gaming capabilities and carry the Xbox brand.

"The piece in BusinessWeek is pure speculation," Moore said. "And, as you know, 'Microsoft does not comment on rumors or speculation.'" He added, "It was the journalist's words, not mine."

Moore also faced a question about when the massively multiplayer online genre and its persistent worlds would come to the Xbox 360, to which he responded, "That is still the realm of the PC, but we may have something to talk about in the near future." He also noted that it's an expensive proposition. Final Fantasy XI and an MMO game carrying the Marvel comic book license are both in development for the 360.

While the talk covered many of the specifics of Microsoft's plans, Moore also said a few things indicative of the company taking a broader perspective. One such broader perspective dealt with focusing on a broader audience.

"We need to have a standardized delivery system, which will deliver content to the consumer," Moore noted. "We're working on it. I can't tell you much more about it, but it is seamless, efficient, and it goes across all platforms."

Platform-agnostic content was a theme carried over into the pervasive way Moore wants people to experience Microsoft's products. He brought up the example of a real-time strategy game that people could play on their PCs, develop strategies for while at work using their phones, and then download extra content for on the Xbox 360.

Hawking his wares wasn't the only thing on Moore's agenda, however. He also talked about a common game plan used by pretty much everyone in the industry today to fuel sales and how it could serve as a long-term detriment to gaming.

"I am very concerned that we are too reliant on sequels, formulaic gameplay, and licenses from outside our medium," Moore said. "The stagnation we may be seeing...is that we are becoming like TV and film in that we are sticking to a formula, and publishing out number three, number four. We are a superior medium, and we should take the next step to rekindling originality."

142 Comments

  • eXcluded_basic

    Posted Mar 4, 2006 11:15 am PT

    True that sega didn't have the same possibilities as M$ have, but they still made one hell of a nice gaming console with the dreamcast. The problem was that game developers abandoned the DC, like EA for instance. dreamcast kicked ps butt and in some cases had better looking games than ps2, just compare DOA2 dc-version with it's ps2-equivalent. And without dc you guys would probably not have the PGR-franchise, it started with metropolis street racer for the dc

  • soulknight63133

    Posted Feb 22, 2006 11:59 am PT

    Marquis_UK- that was not a smart remark Sega is not even in the same league as M$. Nor have nearly the resources or capital.

  • impymonk

    Posted Feb 21, 2006 12:24 pm PT

    Oh thank goodness! Microsoft is going to focus on PC games now! Good thing, or else PC gaming would die without their benevolence and wisdom!

  • Maquis_UK

    Posted Feb 21, 2006 8:38 am PT

    micro$haft is WACK peeple. always has been, always will be. dont believe the hype. 360 = dreamcast.

  • CassiusVII

    Posted Feb 21, 2006 6:45 am PT

    I cant wait for Vista!

  • soulknight63133

    Posted Feb 20, 2006 3:51 am PT

    Just about time M$! Software for PC is what made you the company you ARE. Don't ever forget that!

  • Blazer88

    Posted Feb 16, 2006 1:08 pm PT

    Quote "I would love to see analog controls with the Xbox360 controller on the PC support for all PC games. Why is it so difficult to replicate console control on a pc? "

    It isn't just nobody really bothers,..also it would help to have at least some kind of standardization,...I mean not to go as far as to force games to be controller only,..cause that wouldn't fly and some PC gamers swear by the keyboad /mouse thing,...but to make so all companies start to include controller support.And make true analogue control.
    The XBox 360 Controller is availiable for th PC btw but it won't have real analogue control by itself cause just having analogue stick does not equal analogue control,..all you get is either the digital input of keys mapped to it,...or the mouse,..which actually is analogue but I have never felt it transferred to well to other controllers I have tried I think maybe cause it something like a mouse is much more sensitive ,..don't really know its just not as smooth.
    Ideally if I was designer I would drop the right analogue stick and replace with a small rollerball to have mouse movement for looking and aiming,..have analogue control for the left stick to get rid of the rather outdated digital movment of using WASD keys that way you could have precise control over character movment(no more need for a run key or having to hit 2 buttons to move diagnal) ,..and finally put a wheel on there somehwere too cause those are kinda handy.
    To me that would be a hot controller in my opinion better then what I have seen far of the next generation stuff,...with the 360 that only moved two of its buttons to a differnt spot,..PS3 change to a boomerang for no reason other then to change I guess(hope they don't with that btw),..and the Revs,...um remote control thingie,...

  • Blazer88

    Posted Feb 16, 2006 12:38 pm PT

    Quote by
    Mardil
    "What the heck? Shortages in all 3 continents? I think not Moore... (talking about Japan)."

    Japan isn't a continent genius

  • theoriginalquol

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 8:46 pm PT

    Peter Moore is wrong. It's now the middle of February and GameStop still hasn't fullfilled it's preorders. In fact, i was told on the phone today that I will not get mine for 5 to 6 weeks. Sadly, I'm only in the early 30's on the list. They are only getting 4 to 6 a week.

    Super lame. I think someone should call Peter Moore on his statement that all preorders have now been filled, because they aren't even close.

  • ndcrewindxtc

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 6:13 pm PT

    No matter what the PC will reign supreme. If any console were to really surpass the PC and the PC can never catch up, you know what? It's a computer. You don't really have to have top of the line comps to play the best games. Just go above the minimum requirement and there you go everything is done.

  • gamemasterchief

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 5:44 pm PT

    PC gaming will remain more of the hard core "hobbiest" platform, and won't die anytime soon. I'll get games for all consoles and my PC. Yeah, getting a PC is more expensive, but you can cut corners and get a good gaming machine for around $1k (US). I had a crappy P4 1.4, 512 RAM, 100 gig drive, and an older ATI 128 meg card. I went out, spent $500 dollars on an e-machines AMD 64 3200+ with 1gig ram, 250 gig drive, with an open PCI express slot, then spent $300 and dropped in an ATI X800 and BAM!!! Instant "cheap-o" gaming machine. Sure, it's an e-machines, but beggers can't be choosers and it's actually been a VERY reliable machine.

    As for getting more games published on the PC, I don't see that happening soon. The average will remain about the same. PC games (heck, most games) rely on worldwide sales to be profitable. The problem is that most of the world pirates their PC games! Sure, it happens for console games too, but the ratio isn't nearly as high.

  • nima64

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 5:02 pm PT

    I would love to see analog controls with the Xbox360 controller on the PC support for all PC games. Why is it so difficult to replicate console control on a pc?

  • vanpham

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 2:09 pm PT

    PS3 will just be like Xbox360, not much different. Because the thing that really seperated Xbox and PS2 was the graphics and the online gameplay..

    Nowadays the PS3 is stronger but that gap between the Xbox and the PS2, compared to the Xbox360 and the PS3 is 5x smaller. Plus Sony like Microsoft implemented great online capabilities.

    Thus the only difference in the 2 consoles are the games.

  • shotokan_42

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 1:46 pm PT

    Your right about one thing quietguy, there's always a glitch in either a system when it's about to launch, or a new operating system that will not only please gamers, but revolutionize how we'll play. And, to be honest, I don't think that PS3 will live up to the hype that everyone will it will be.

  • quietguy

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 1:15 pm PT

    And another thing about Windows Vista: Vanpham there will always be glitches in EVERYTHING! I only hope that Vista will address the constant crashes, irreputable filing systems, buggy plug-and-play add-ons, system update compatibilities, that GOD-AWFUL BLUE THEME, etc.

    Let's even hope that Peter Moore doesn't forget his promises too.

  • quietguy

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 1:10 pm PT

    Don't expect the PS3 to have all the stuff at launch because of public hype. Take for an example, the 360 launch had only MINIMAL stuff at the initial month; accesorries never came out till the arrival of the next month, which we saw had better stuff flowing in. I do hope that the PS3 does live up to its potential (And I DO HOPE they redo those "batarang" controllers!) with the greatly emphasized specs of its CPU and systems. But you might never know when Sony would have to chop off some good stuff right before initital launch because of production costs or prices.

  • vanpham

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 1:09 pm PT

    Idiots..

    Stop telling Microsoft to work on the PC. They have 2 divisions, its not like 1 person is trying to do 1 thing at once.

    My advice is to not get Vista until all they glitches are fixed.

  • TargetDog

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 11:28 am PT

    Ugh, Peter Moore. Whatever, regardless of what happens, I'll be upgrading to the Vista sooner or later unless there's something MAJORLY wrong with it.

  • The_Fat_Zebra

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 11:04 am PT

    Blahblahblah they couldn't even give the 360 a decent launch.

  • ufopuller

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 10:57 am PT

    That's VERY good news

  • ShruHats

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 10:15 am PT

    @mamad_raiss

    you do realize that 360 and PC are competing with each other right? and that the PS3 is over twice as powerfull as the Xbox 360, the Xbox 360 doesn't even support full HD, and yet the PS3 can do dual channel 1080p.

  • ShruHats

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 10:11 am PT

    People honestly need to start being less poor, "LOELS PC is more expensive consls 4lyf" is not a reason why a console is better or worse. Whatever consoles can do now we can do better in 6 months on PC.

    $1000 dollars a year to upgrade your PC is not THAT much to pay for your primary provider of entertainment. Also, consider the HDTV that you will have to buy to make your console fully use your console. when you factor that in a console and PC are about the same price.

  • mamad_raiss

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 9:15 am PT

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  • matt_tabb48

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 9:06 am PT

    u kno something, this is just wrong they shouldn't be working on a thing called vista. They should be working the Xbox360's blowing up and catching fire thing i mean damn i can't even get on into they fix that . or into the ps3 comes out cause now offically that's what i'm gonna get for X-mas

  • ezrock212

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 9:04 am PT

    Just a thought, I think that the 360 is going to end up being a bust. By the end of the year the PC will be well ahead of the 360 in terms of performance and prices will be lower. I think Microsoft will realize that there is no profit in the hardware business and go back to what they do best, making mediocre software for the masses.

  • jaefrmbk2k

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 6:22 am PT

    Games are gonna have their own folder?? that sez Games??? Simply Magnificent

  • chrisdojo

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 5:21 am PT

    "sorry sorry sorry" LOL that doesn't fix anything. when vista is released and xbox 360 games can run on it, that might put more life into pc gaming (since there is the usb xbox 360 controller for vista)

  • Zakulmen

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 5:13 am PT

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  • soulknight63133

    Posted Feb 13, 2006 3:39 am PT

    Are you CRAZY,DevilhunterX!?, We still haven't seen ANY in-game play from the PS3!..I forgot some people are just plain anti-M$ or maybe anti-American, since M$ is the ONLY american company in the console market that's not afraid of Sony or NIntendo. People like you are going to dislike them no matter what they do. And I'm sorry to be frank with you "sony lovers" but, the Xbox is a superior machine to PS2. I've seen games on both systems and the Xbox(American product) is just flatout better! I'm not just talking "halo" either..Morrowind, Chronicle of Riddick, Ninja Gaiden, and Far Cry are ALL great titles. Funny, sonyfanboys think that we only have "Halo" to play on Xbox..lol "what a maroon".

  • dwaynerseven

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 10:33 pm PT

    Ms a bad company, does anyone remember a little thing called internet explorer and how it chaged the world. As for os all together I give credit to apple and ms for all the codeing put into the software, hats off to that. But who cares about vista. It's all about games. I play pc games because I am huge fan of RTS and upgrading my computer is cheap compared to clothing, house, food, and car payments. Don't complain, this **** is for kids and system wars. Sorry to the people who had something good to say.

  • vanpham

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 10:00 pm PT

    wow...

    Was Windows XP an marketing scam?

    Was Xbox a marketing scam?

    CrazyWinter you do not get it at all. People are going to buy Vista no matter what, maybe for Halo 2 maybe not for Halo 2. Everyone gets Windows =P.

  • crazywinner

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 9:22 pm PT

    Its just another marketing scam to buy more microsoft related stuff....A very good one indeed...

  • KilRoY117

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 9:07 pm PT

    Lol. MOORE DOES HAVE A SINISTER LOOKING SMILE!

  • KilRoY117

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 9:05 pm PT

    VincentV21, If anyone only buys games for Graphics it will be PS Fanboys, look at how they are ranting about PS3's graphics how it can have Kilzone 2, and MGS4 looking that great. They go crazy over that.

    Microsoft is a good company, they made Windows XP. If you call a man who gave over 50% of his profits to charity evil, then I don't know what you're standards are.

  • KilRoY117

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 9:02 pm PT

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  • VincentV21

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 6:36 pm PT

    So, I stil say, "Who cares; it's Microsoft." Their job is to put out crappy hardware/software that fanboys & media overhype & put on a pedestal. People will really really like the games because of the graphics (any good thing coming from an XBox game it's first two years) & will have only overhyped and underdeveloped Halo series as their staple gaming experience. Microsoft has death coming in 2 words: Playstation 3.

  • erikers

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 5:26 pm PT

    because they waste thousands of dollars over the years just to be able to play new games every few years and they feel they have the right to act like the way they play is superior to anybody. It's a complete joke

  • Raven87

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 4:23 pm PT

    wow, alot of people posting here seem to resent MS, for producing products which you feel the need to buy and yet dont want to. Everyone seems to be either really into pc gaming, or totally indifferent to it. I myself am the latter I bought my current pc 5 years ago for Ł800. Haven't done a single thing with it during that time. In time I will probably move to vista, but no time soon. Why spend close to Ł3000, to get something which will last 3 years before feeling mediocre. Id much rather leave it as it is sorting my email, and study. Instead spending that money on a 360 with 5.1 surround, and a huge HD plasma. Why do you feel the need to hunch over a keyboard develop DVT, and feel you are superior to console gamers because your playing with a mouse, at 120Fps. And their chilled on a couch with a beer screeming at dirty driving in PGR3. Sorry that rant went a bit off topic.

  • kaito2

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 4:15 pm PT

    dastuff4u, the Xbox was so far ahead of its time that I can understand that to some people the X360 is not going to seem like next gen. But if you put it into perspective and look at the features Sony is incorporating into the PS3, a lot of them were already included in the original XBOX.

  • TPSISO9000

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 2:55 pm PT

    Welcome to the future of gaming fan-boys of all types! Sony and Microsoft have both made it very clear that they are still focused on the living room "set-top box" that will do everything. They've both learned that to do this it's got to be fully featured, run smooth, and can't cost the same as a car. Problem is, thats not profitable. The days of Nintendo and Sega making game machines for games is all but gone. Now the big guys are all about tricking you into buying their machine with smoke and mirror promises of cool extras and bleeding your pocketbook dry with "micro-transactions".

    To do what the 360 promises you need XP media-edition, which they will only sell installed on a new PC from a top dollar manufacturer. End result? Thousands of dollars. Sony's no better, with the PSX machine being stripped down, then dropped. Remember, the functionality of the PSX was actually promised for the PS2 by Sony execs back in '99 (with the all-in-one HD/internet connector).

    Now to get stable gaming on a multi-thousand dollar game machine that equals a sub-$500 console they expect you to upgrade or purchase a whole new machine with a brand new super-expensive OS that taxes your new DirX10 capable video-card just to have a games tab and scalable windows. Sure.

  • AlbertoML

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 2:48 pm PT

    It sounds cool, the problem is backwards compatibility, which I think won't be very good... I enjoy playing my old games and with Windows XP that got really messed up... I expect the same with Windows Vista... that's why I don't play PC games as much anymore... besides, there's always the compatility issues, an infinite amount of system requirements, etc.

  • mattaustin6

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 1:39 pm PT

    No on how he intends to defeat Flash Gordon?

  • DevilHunterX

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 1:34 pm PT

    Ahem. To all The M$ fanboys:

    http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/news.html?sid=6133820&mode=all

    Feel free to shutup anytime.

  • cheesytaco69

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 12:30 pm PT

    Microsoft is the only software company that will actually run the things we need and want... Like Halo or a decent word processer.

  • AcolyteV1

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 12:17 pm PT

    Donkeljohn said : "I like the content restrictions that can be set up. That is a great touch. I forbid my wife and children from playing games they shouldn't." ... Forbid your wife from playing games she shouldn't? Wow... that doesn't make you sound like a jerk at all, no. Man, my sympathies to your wife -_-.

  • ruttness

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 12:15 pm PT

    quack in the goose of the bean soup eh?

  • Atomic_Mutant

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 10:59 am PT

    Moore sounds like a drug dealer who's bent making all of us addicted to his idea of gaming. Many who use XP would not necessarily find any reason to upgrade to Vista so MS is trying to tap the vast funds of hardcore gamers to pad their margin, by for once emphasizing the PC gaming platform. PC gaming platform is number 1 outside the realm of XBOX360, as it might as well be that XBOX360 is but only one step of realizing what MS envisions as the future of gaming (and to which MS is trying to steer the PC gaming as supported by Vista). PC is going to be relegated more or less to its experimental canvas for future consoles products and it will be a matter of time where all worthwhile PC games will be developed in eastern Europe or confined to MMORPG and FPS.

  • CHROMEFLAMIN

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 10:20 am PT

    Typical Microshaft, always wanna do what they wanna do!
    If they would just work with the industry instead of trying to be the industry
    when they want to check in from time to time.

    What this tool is really trying to say is "SCREW OpenGL and SCREW every
    other operating system weve made, buy Vista NOW!"

  • dastuff4U

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 8:56 am PT

    WTF!?!?!, well i agree all the way optimusv2, and knicknut where do you get off saying how 360 isnt "impressing you", I would go back at the ps3 but sorry cant, cuz nothing isnt prerendered!You too Lordgamer001, i see MS talk and when they say it happens it usually happens and its exciting news. Sony has done nothing about talkin about stuff that isnt going to happen and nothing special. I want to see action sony! Its always the same with you fanboys, 360 sux and isnt next-gen and ps3 rules cuz they make fake renderings of games! And all you sony fanboys will **** at the launch of ps3 when the same thing happens to sony about the lack of next-gen looking games. Can someone please explain to me why 360 isnt "next-gen" enough for you fanboys. I got a 360 and plan on buying a ps3 after price drop. Im impressed with 360(overall) HARDWARE for ps3 is good but nothing is goin to look like those renderings. Peter Moore,... thats nice. Thats why i am a consoler, cheap, no upgrades costing $1000 or so. oh and the seguel thing(trying to put the only good series behind "halo) Sony is then destroying gaming with sequels. Its the only thing i see on the ps3, bad sequels. ONCE AGAIN, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW 360 ISNT NEXT-GEN!!!

  • Aaron0414

    Posted Feb 12, 2006 8:36 am PT


    So, does this mean Microsoft is going to make more games that "require" the new OS? I own AOE III and Windows 2000... (not compatible) That right there is a perfect example of what the future of PC gaming will hold.

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