$299 Xbox 360 Elite official, Pro 'phased out'

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nov.10 codmw2 360 console 250gbs 399 bucks

I am a wii owner but now seems as good a time as any to get on the xbox horse or maybe i should just spring for the PS3 and blue ray player

Ya, the 360 failure rates are much lower now, so everyone can just calm down. Jeepers...

According to a study by warranty provider Squaretrade, the RROD rates has fallen with the introduction of the Jasper chips: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/09/02/study-xbox-360-rrod-on-the-decline/

Want to increase PS3 sales worldwide? Tell the developers to give out how to run backups... it will skyrocket, guaranteed. If I'd live in the U.S., I'd already own a PS3 over an Xbox 360 for sure. But as that isn't the case, when my Xbox 360 fails for the 2nd time (it's already refurbished from the 1st RROD, and already giving signs the GPU is failing) I will probably sell it for scrap and buy another one... stupid? Don't think so. Again, calculated risk... although, there's always e-bay for those "expensive" originals.

Well, it's pretty simple, actually. The only reason worldwide Xbox360 sales are larger than PS3 sales is because it sells a lot in the so called "3rd World Countries". Why? Because it can run backup games downloaded in private torrent sites. Original titles are simply unaffordable in 3rd World Countries. For example, a new release in the U.S. costs between US$50 and US$ 60. The same release in, let's say Brazil, will cost between R$220 and R$230 (R$ = Brazilian currency). Converting that to US dollars will equal approximately US$110 and US$115. More than the double of the price, that's how 3rd World governments tax imported goods: 2 times the original value, then double the price again (although the 2nd part is due to the current Exchange rate). Well, thanks, but no thanks... I'd rather have a console which will someday fail, but I can get games for it, than have a console with a way lower failure rate, with no games. It's called calculated risk. It's easy to have a PS3 in America. You have a so called "product circulation" (another thing to teach the 3rd World). You buy a new (original) game, finish it in 2 weeks, or dislike it... you can trade it for another one, or buy an used one for less money. Or rent it. And somebody will surely buy your former (now used) game. In the "3rd World" you spend more than the double of the price in a game, and if you don't like it... well, your loss friend...

Oh excuse me my numbers were a little off. The initial failure rates of all three consoles are: Xbox:54.2% PS3:10.6% Wii:6.8% Percentage of owners who suffered a failure after original repair: Xbox:41.2% PS3: 14.7% Wii:11% Also repair times for consoles: Microsoft- 2-4 weeks Sony 1-2 Weeks Nintendo 1-2 weeks Percentage of 360 owners who bought a second console after failure: 36.4% need i say more?

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@Rasmita But check the numbers again, there are appr. 23 mill. PS3s out there, not 13 mill. The article talks about fiscal year expectations for Sony, not the total sales (although poorly explained in this article)

@ Rasmita you're totally right...they said the failure rates is lower in PS3 but in average they are much more than the rates in 360. 360 Rules

the rates of failure is high in xbox 360 because there are 31 million xbox outside as compared to 13 million ps3

xbox 360 is the best. Fu Ps3 And its slim version

Just to clarify the numbers I've posted earlier - of the consoles the repairshop in question got for repairs, 60% of them were Xbox360s and 40% were PS3s. Not 60% or 40% of all consoles, just those they've got. The 54% failure rate that was/is floating around the internet seemed like a highly inflated number, though, all things considered.

Well I got the ps3 slim on the day it came out and i gatta say its not all that great! it over heats so fast just by leaving it on for a few minutes! i mean i love how its quieter than my 40gb ps3 (that one is louder than any xbox i have owned believe it or not)but still hotter than my elite! and my elite is quiet as hell! my ps3 slim turns off every now and then but i guess its part of the new mother board idk its weird and if its not than i guess i gatta send it to sony

I personally have always leaned toward Playstation more. But recently I have started to lean more towards Xbox. I will admit, I, like many others have got the RROD, but it was fixed, and so far I haven't had anymore problems. Yes Playstaion is the better value, mostly because of Blu-Ray and built in wireless, but I believe that if Microsoft can manage to get its surplus of old systems with the old chip sets sold, and get all consoles with the new Jasper chip set, Then Xbox will begin to dominate. Especially considering what they did at E3 this year. That's if they can live up to what they presented, and keep costs down.

As opposed to PS3 fanboys that take an inconclusive survey as the absolute truth?

Out of my 22 consoles and 4 handhelds...I still prefer my PS2...NES is a close second. The libraries of both X360 and PS3 are nearly identical. Very few of the exclusive titles would tilt me in either direction as to superiority. They are both great systems (RROD and cheap a$$ parts aside). If you compare ratings from multiple sites, PS3 actually has a very SLIGHT edge, but I personally don't subscribe to ratings as a deciding factor. RPG's decide it for me, and microsoft has a long ways to go to beat what is already avalible on both pervious consoles and the PS3... meh...flog each other sadistically if thats what turn's your crank. Just enjoy the games and quit b!tching

XBOT 360 FANBOYS ARE THE MOST IGNORANT GAMERS MY SYSTEM IS THE BEST YEAH!!!!! LETS FORGET THE SYSTEM BREAKS DOWN 54% OF THE TIME

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I have a 360 and have loved it for 3 years without a single RROD but I have to admit I've been drueling over the PS3 with Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, MAG and many others. The only reason I haven't gotten one was the ridiculous price, but, I think Sony may have one more customer pretty soon!

@justforfun44 Thanks. It makes a bit more sense to me that both consoles are struggling under certain circumstances (one being the placement of the console, as you are saying). Anyway, the article may stop some of the usual namecalling/banter etc. Yes, the PS3s are failing too, according to the repairshop, at a 60/40 percentage (Xbox360/PS3) @flint247 I think I have an explanation for the inflated prices of the HDD. Its basically about not making the arcade console cheaper than the Elite. If the HDD price was much lower, there would be no reason to buy the Elite console, instead you could just buy the Arcade + HDD for a lower price. So, they inflated the HDD prices to make the Elite seem like a better deal and make a profit from the higher end model. At least so my theory goes.

43n1m4 - Good article. It makes perfect sense. PS3 and Xbox 360 are both beasts of computers stuck in a small box so cooling is going to be a problem. I am betting the consoles kept in the coolest environments are not failing, but most gamers play in rooms that are warm and many consoles get locked away in a cabinet with poor ventilation.

MSFT needs to cut down the price of the hard drive. Increasing the HdD space won't make the X360 technically equal to the PS3 (BD, wireless, universal hard drive, Blue tooth, etc...). They need to stop ripping us off. I still don't understand why the Hdd is so expensive.

@hatecandie Couldn't agree more, after I get a 360, I will plan to buy a PS3 in the future, Lord Willing.

About failing consoles, interesting perspective on Eurogamer. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-system-failure-article?page=3 It seems its not only Xbox360's, that are breaking down over time.

all this really means to me is more people will have both consoles after this holiday season. good games come out on both consoles so why limit yourself to one if your able to have both.

Sorry, 360, but only the games matter to me, and no price drop is gonna stop me from getting a console to play GoW3, FF Versus 13, Heavy Rain, Drake 2, and all the other exclusives for the same $299 I could've used on you. Get some new exclusives, Microsoft, and then we'll talk.

ppl need to stop being such fan boys and open their eyes to the bigger picture, what cost more (thts everything not just the consle), can you rely on it, does it have game you like on it, payments, features etc. basically whats better in the long run, a ps3 thts guna last for 10 yrs (apparently) or an xbox with the rrod, i had an xbox360...well 3 which all got rrod so i decided to try ps3, neva looked bk :) but thts my opinon :3. Dont hate on a consle because you don't have it or tht u have the other one, i mean i don't see how bad either of the consle are to get so much hate tbh 0.o my only hate for 360 was the rrod but apart from tht it was great! and with the ps3 it has a blu-ray player which will soon take over dvds like the dvd did to the video tapes r what eva they were and has upgradable hdd so dont need to wait for only ms to bring out bigger ones so i can get a 1TB 1 thts me settled for my ps3 for life and has so much features along with psp tht seem better for me then on xbox ^^ like access my ps3 from anywhere in the world (y) tht i like as my family put photos and that on it :3 be happy with what you got and no1 will complain ^_^

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@ KingDustero im not comparing games im just saying there are different types of games and they are usually the most compared for some reason. i had the 1st xbox and i bought metal gear solid 2 i thought it was freaking sweet and i thought it was a bit of a shame they just kept it going only with sony even tho yes sony have made a console that is blu ray making it better graphics but i dont think game designers are using it as much as it should be like fallout 3 xbox had better graphics and i thought that ps3 should have them because of blu ray. look they both have their advantages and disadvantages but in the end its what u think is better because ppl that had the 1st xbox usually stayed with xbox and the ppl that didnt have either usually went with xbox mainly coz it was 1st out and started out costing less and ppl that had ps2s went with ps3 because they prefered it

@shadowhunter0 i wasnt naming all the games i was just thinking of 2 off the top of my head because i dont have a ps3 and if i made a list it would be incredibly long and im not saying ps3 is crap but my friend had a ps3 and thought it was awesome but no one else really had one so he bought a 360 as well and he prefers it so much and i dont know y but he said "ps3 is rarely used now because i dont think there is a great selection out now" but i personally think that there is a awesome selection on both systems but i suppose its what u prefer more because personally i think that 360 has more shooters than ps3 but ps3 has more adventure and roleplaying games

this isn't really news. its just a microsoft executive peddling his product. thanks.

With 299$ PS3 and X360's...Wii will stop selling as fast as it did, and now the majority of PS2/GC/XBOX owners will finally move onto Next-Generation gaming.

@ Flint247: No, but gamers are notorious for rampant fanboyism and froth-at-the-mouth hate-ons for anything that runs counter to their love of a product. It's bloody hilarious. The 360's poor cooling aside, it's a great system with a great library of games. Just like the PS3...a year ago or so I might have said "and the Wii", but, uh...yeah, that console's dead in the water.

ps3 also needs to figure out a way to play rock band & guitar hero without having 2 plug in a sensor for each insturment

my dad works in microsoft and he says starting Jan 1st online will become free, and adapter to all. dont believe me if you want, but its true. take that, PS3 fanboys!

@flint247 no problem with it just the people who spent almost double on a system that took 2 years to introduce rumble, no hi def connections packed in have hate on the better cosole

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Everytime I mention purchasing a 360, my comment gets marked down. Is there a problem with buying one?

Totally agree Ruffin316. They just want a little more money,.

@ johnnyjh89 same here I'm sick of it ps3 has allot of great games it just some people are to blind to see it

Something bugs me about the prices: $249 for a Pro while the Elite is only an extra $50 and comes with a hard drive that's twice as large? I predict that the Pro will last longer than many will anticipate for this reason alone; after all, when comparing the specs, you get more for your money by purchasing the Elite over the Pro, so what would be the point? Am I right?

I hope the 360 I get does not RROD on me for a LONG time.

they should make an upgraded (thinner) 360 console with no rrod, then that would match the slim's standards.

Assassin's Creed is a multi-platform game so i dont know why people say that 360 has that over PS3

PS3 does have good games WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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