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Nov 22, 2012 4:56 pm GMT
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Nov 23, 2012 4:40 pm GMT
Absolutely laughable suggestion. MGS2 is the entire reason the franchise's plot exists. MGS 3 is the obligatory filler sequel.
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Nov 23, 2012 7:31 pm GMT
If anything its 3, the one that is the favourite of many.
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Nov 25, 2012 11:56 am GMT
consider you dont get to play as the main character but a whining nobody who constantly get nagged. yeah i'll say MGS2 is a filler.
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Nov 25, 2012 1:31 pm GMT
calvin_0 posted...consider you dont get to play as the main character but a whining nobody who constantly get nagged. yeah i'll say MGS2 is a filler.
That filler set up the entire story of MGS, though.
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Nov 26, 2012 5:29 am GMT
DarkGam3r posted...calvin_0 posted...
consider you dont get to play as the main character but a whining nobody who constantly get nagged. yeah i'll say MGS2 is a filler.
That filler set up the entire story of MGS, though.
MGS3s story literally sets up the entire story doesnt it?
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Nov 26, 2012 10:44 am GMT
RatB20 posted...DarkGam3r posted...
calvin_0 posted...
consider you dont get to play as the main character but a whining nobody who constantly get nagged. yeah i'll say MGS2 is a filler.
That filler set up the entire story of MGS, though.
MGS3s story literally sets up the entire story doesnt it?
MGS3's story is pretty much irrelevant and added nothing other than cool tidbits of Metal Gear history.
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calvin_0 posted...consider you dont get to play as the main character but a whining nobody who constantly get nagged. yeah i'll say MGS2 is a filler.
Regardless of who you played as, the story was what set everything up.
Besides, Raiden was crucial to exploring the themes the game was based on, some would argue that Snake was still the main characters like the Platinum guys are saying.
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Dec 4, 2012 8:35 am GMT
Joke topic?
Introduction of Raiden
S3 Plan
Metal Gear Ray
Solidus Snake, and how he connected with MGS1, the Patriots, and Raiden.
GW and all of the significant details that have to do with it
Like, Raiden using its data to discover the location of Big Boss?
Olga Gurlukovich tasking Raiden to live for Sunny
Liquid obtaining Metal Gear Ray
I mean, take your pick of important events and characters from that game. That IS the story.
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Dec 4, 2012 10:37 am GMT
destructoclaus posted...
Introduction of Raiden
I mean, take your pick of important events and characters from that game. That IS the story.
RatB20 posted...
MGS3s story literally sets up the entire story doesnt it?
regardless mgs2 is still crappy filler to me just because it introduce and force me to use one of the character i hate the most.
and it also one of the main reason i love MGS3 so much, i get to beat up raiden over, over, over, over, over and over again...
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Dec 4, 2012 11:19 am GMT
calvin_0 posted...destructoclaus posted...
Introduction of Raiden
I mean, take your pick of important events and characters from that game. That IS the story.
RatB20 posted...
MGS3s story literally sets up the entire story doesnt it?
regardless mgs2 is still crappy filler to me just because it introduce and force me to use one of the character i hate the most.
and it also one of the main reason i love MGS3 so much, i get to beat up raiden over, over, over, over, over and over again...
Well, regardless of whether not you liked the main character, the events in that game are just as important as any other MGS game. Even MGS3 wasn't filler. It cleared up a LOT about Big Boss and gave a clear view of how the series was put in motion. Besides, I haven't beaten MGS4 yet but I've heard from a few people that Raiden usurps Snake as resident badass in this game.
And yeah, it was fun beating up that homo Raikov.
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Dec 5, 2012 5:16 am GMT
destructoclaus posted...I haven't beaten MGS4 yet but I've heard from a few people that Raiden usurps Snake as resident badass in this game.
they try very very hard to make raiden a badass in this game (perhaps too hard) and then turn him into
whining emo kid for 70% of the game...
i hate raiden period.
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Dec 12, 2012 3:24 pm GMT
calvin_0 posted...destructoclaus posted...
I haven't beaten MGS4 yet but I've heard from a few people that Raiden usurps Snake as resident badass in this game.
they try very very hard to make raiden a badass in this game (perhaps too hard) and then turn him into whining emo kid for 70% of the game...
i hate raiden period.
Sounds like you're doing a lot of whining yourself.
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Dec 13, 2012 5:20 am GMT
khunki posted...
Sounds like you're doing a lot of whining yourself.
well cheese arent going to eat themself...
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Dec 13, 2012 6:46 am GMT
destructoclaus posted......
GW and all of the significant details that have to do with it
Like, Raiden using its data to discover the location of Big Boss?
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Holy crap! I only just realised something when I read this part. Some SPOILERS ahead...
If Raiden used his nanomachines/GW info to locate Big Boss, how did he end up giving Big Mama the body of Solidus? He killed Solidus right there at the end of MGS2 and then, what, he goes straight back to federal hall and doesn't realise that the corpse of "Big Boss" is the corpse of the man he killed hours earlier?
Even if the body was moved from Federal Hall and placed somewhere else, how did Raiden not recognise him? And if the Patriots did a switch with the real body, substituting it for the freshly killed Solidus, that implies that they knew the information had been leaked. They could have just moved the body so there was nothing at that location.
I can't believe it's taken me so long to realise this!!!
Dec 13, 2012 3:40 pm GMT
it's certainly not filler, but it will probably always be the black sheep of the metal gear family.
It's not filler at all in fact I just think it suffered because of a few things not including the snake to raiden switch -
MGS1 was such a landmark game that whatever they did it would have it's detractors and be a near impossible act to follow.
The gameplay to story ratio was well off, it should be 10 minutes of game, 10 minutes of codec, 10 minutes of game, 5 minute cut scene, 10 minutes of game 10 minutes of codec, but instead the poor pacing of the 3 act narrative structure shoe horns 3 hours of story into the last quarter of the game.
The story rather than just be straight gets hideously mangled somewhere with Kojima trying to be all philosophical and preachy about the destiny of man etc.
The Big shell was boring as hell - oh look, it's another nondescript orange catwalk to another hexagonal room on the hexagonal plant.
The ending was so vague and inconclusive that it made me question whether it was really worth it, but i'll admit after a few years away the passage of time has been quite kind to this game.
Dec 13, 2012 11:23 pm GMT
All the games have their fair share of "filler." Of all of them, MGS1 has the tightest, concise, and most focused narrative.
Dec 14, 2012 3:19 pm GMT
The Ac!d games and the GB title were fillers if any thing.
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Dec 14, 2012 3:49 pm GMT
Not to mention Portable Ops, the game that even Kojima fails to recognize within the series.
Dec 15, 2012 12:08 pm GMT
MGS2 is arguably the most pivotal game in the series. Hell, it set up the war economy that was the key theme of MGS4.
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