What Just Happened? - The End of ME3 Confessionals (Spoilers)
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- Apr 5, 2012
We weigh in on what we think happened at the end and if it should be changed.
@swamptick Exactly. Even without the extended cut, the choices are all expertly thought out from a creative and thematic standpoint. The contrasts between the different endings and their respective consequences are quite deep. It must be so frustrating for the writers to see people misunderstand and create their own flawed interpretations.People just want to see some kind of aftermath with their Shepard alive, but when you think about it, you know that his/her sacrifice (for control/synthesis) is a much more touching ending than that.
@swamptick like ending over and getting fisted
OMG the chinese guy is such a moron, it looks like he's been playing super mario for he whole time and then he can't even realize what is going on. For me the ending was clear enough and BEAUTIFUL. I've chosen to merge synthetic and organic life, and it didn't take me long to chose (unlike mr.chingchong who couldn't even figure out what game he was playing) . After that I just tought "WOW". Reapers leave the earth alone , shepard itself tranforms and is likely to be still alive (even tough at taht point I was willing to sacrifice like a true hero). Then the normandy crash lands on this planet , Joker, EDI and Liara get out of the Normandy and you just know that a new glorious era for the whole galaxy has come. Like the guy said, cherry on top is that you see at the end that umanity had future and now you are a hero. Indoubt the best saga I've ever come so far, it made me dream like no other
Chris Watters is likely the most annoying person I have ever witnesses in my entire life. Good grief.
Pure and simple the endings were a collection of plot-holed riddle garbage, which completely contradicted all the advertising leading up to this game that all your decisions would have an impact on the ending. Listen, I am not saying that if you liked the ending and thought it was awesome that you are a moron, apologist or just some astro-turfing flunky, I liked "aspects" of the ending too, but that does not prevent me from seeing the utter fail the ending as a whole represented. I mean stick a rose on a turd and sure the rose looks pretty but hey bub its still sitting on a pile of SH*T. Suffice it to say that after the crapfest which was dragon age II, I am effectively done with bioware. Crap on me once, okay maybe everyone gets to turn in one B-side, but crap on me twice and I have to bid you adieu . RIP Bioware.
This stinks of propaganda ffs.. it's like gamespot works for EA or something. "would I buy new DLC, yes" ... NO! No DLC (paid for anyway) till this POS ending gets fixed.
I am still confused as to how anyone can perceive this ending as being good. I understand the meaning behind the ending and what bioware are trying to tell us, but that does not make it good. It is still ""objectively"" bad from a storytelling perspective, seeing as most events in ME1 and ME2 end up becoming giant plotholes by themselves. There is absolutely no connection btw. ME3's ending and the rest of the ME-narrative. Come on, they change the "central conflict" of the story in the last 5 minutes of the game and ignore everything else that has happened before? Bioware also said that all our questions would be answered, but im left with more questions than when I finished ME2 and most of them concern plotholes, inconsistencies and things that do not make sense. Those are the wrong types of questions to leave the player with. The game is also about collecting war assets, but the ending tells the player that he had no reason to go around collecting them. The ending arguably changes the main protagonist of the story. ME3 is not art. It is a consumer product, meaning that people have a right to complain if they are not given what they were promised in advertising and through official statements. I am not saying they should change the ending, but listening to their customers is good business practise. Fallout 3's ending was changed. I think I am done with the ME series, enjoyed ME1-2, but ME3 is an inferior game in every way to ME2, except that Shepard is more agile during combat.
No matter what you think of the ME3 ending what this does demonstrate is the growing gulf between the game media and gamers. There was no mention amongst "professionals" of this controversial and generally unpopular ending. Bioware actually trusted the professionals to represent Gamers so were imo genuinely taken aback by the negative response their game received with the gaming public. They pointed out the near flawless scores, and waited to see if the negativity around the ending would be sustained, which it was. I believe there is a growing gulf between gamers and the professional games journalists, who as "professional" gamers have different and often diametrically opposed requirements for their games which can lead to major oversights (such as the ME3 ending) and outright travesties (Homefront rated (good)). So while the gaming public rile against day 1 dlc, online passes, digital only distribution, removal of the second hand market the gaming "professionals" cheer "more, more!" and talk of the inevitability of this vision coming from the dev studios where they seem to see their futures. imo of course ;)
Bioware needs to stop writting homo relationships and start learning how to write a great ending to a great sci-fi. Someone should give lessons on basic sci-fi ending. " Okay class, Today we'll review the basic 'good ending' and the basic 'bad ending'. The best example of a basic good ending is Star Wars: A New Hope. Death star blows up and good guys Win. The best example of a bad ending is 2001 Space Odessey. Giant embrio comes out of nowhere in space and nobody cares because it's freaky stupid looking."
The ending was good, mass effect is still in my heart, bioware did a great job. There's nothing else to say.
The ending was supposed to leave you wondering and questioning, that ws the point. People don't seem to grasp that it ws the end of the series. Of course you'll be wanting more, and you'll get more eventually, but nobody is patient enough.
i dont get it i played the game too..yeah the child stuff is a bit stupid..and the story seems inconclusive..but that doesnt mean people shud hype it soo much so dt the company is forced to change the ending of the game. its an art form the artist makes wat he wants its our RIGHT to criticize it .. but not force the artist to do things as per our liking. this is plain stupid..and i feel bad that bioware is complying to this..
I have serious problems with that sparkly child. And why is the Normandy and its crew running like cowards ? Didn't they say that they'll be with Shepherd no matter what :/ ... But other than that I liked the Synthesis ending. Also to be noted that all those choices I made through out the game(s) previously hardly added to the ending. I got all 3 ending choices though ... If extended cut is free add on then only I'll try it out ...
I agree with many players out there about the ending it wasn't good but wasn't too bad but after watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ythY_GkEBck It helped me understand the 3choices in the end and left me with many more questions if you hated the ending you should really watch this video it might help you enjoy the ending a little more
This conversation should have never been. Mass Effect is written. If you don't like the ending... you probably just don't understand it. It's requires you to think outside the box. I loved it. Every second of it. Down to the last choice.
I can´t believe there are people really that dumb that still think the boy is an actual character...
Destrin: What was the purpose of Sovereign attacking the citadel in ME1, if the "starbrat" could just as easily have opened the citadel for the reaper fleet? He is the citadel and he controls the reapers, those are his words. That is a major plothole. Why did he need Saren then? if you add in all the others, the narrative is simply broken.
Funny, my ending in me3 had no such stories as some of these guys seem to find!!!! With reviewers like A* it'll be so easy to make games....... jes patch up whatever and the gamers will fill in the gaps with their own stories!!!!
I really had no problems with the ending, and these plot holes people are picking out usually just needa little thinking.
OMG do they all have no logical thinking, i almost fainted watching them explain their thoughts, except for the asian guy which makes a little sense to me imo
Jallakebab said: "It is kind of depressing that people would rather dream up an ending rather than accept the one that has been given to them hehe". He's so god damn right!
my friends always joke about us asians should open our eyes, i mean, we do have smaller and wilder eyes.. but kurtis seid.. his eyes are literally closed!
Gamespot used to be great back in the day of Greg Kesavin. Now.... especially since this Mass Effect 3 debacle and the way they have continuously attacked and belittled the opinions and actions of the Mass effect gamers... I have lost so much respect for them. The only person that I still kind of like is Kevin Van Ord.... I like 1UP more. At least they have Jeremy Parish.
Dunno how neone could think this game's ending was good. Never had much respect for neone in dat video, now i prolly never will. Oh there are numerous plot holes, a bunch of inconsistencies, and you really had no choice or say in the final outcome of the game (I mean srsly the only thing different in the endings r the colors?), but yea it was satisfying and I enjoyed it... derp
To wavey_gravey: It is kind of depressing that people would rather dream up an ending rather than accept the one that has been given to them hehe :) But I agree. The indoctrination theory does fix many things regarding the ending and it would make for an insanely great plot twist. Moreoever, if they need to release an "Extended Cut" DLC, then that means they have ultimately failed at delivering a proper ending. An ending that needs clarification is not an ending. That is a cliffhanger.
I am still very much of the opinion that Shepherd is indoctrinated by the end of the game, the "god-child" is not actually there, it is a construct of Shepherd's indoctrinated mind. I think that Bioware deliberately made the ending ambiguous to sell MOAR DLC to explain the ending...just my thought.
Here are just a few points of critique: It lacks any narrative cohesion, it introduces a new character in the last moments of a story, which is a no no. It abandons the central conflict of the game and creates a new one, the games focus on characters is abandoned, it makes use of space magic that is not explained anywhere in the game(e.g. biotics = codex pages, synthesis = how would that even work, Control = Ehh Shepard is dead, how can he control anything?), it does not have all the vastly different endings that were promised by bioware, amongst other things (false advertising), Shepard just accepts whatever he is being told without challenging the obviously flawed assertions made by the starbrat. We spend the entire game collecting war assets and they mean nothing in the end? It poses more questions than answers and most are caused by the innumerable plotholes and inconsistencies with ME lore. The people here really need to play through all 3 games again, examine it a bit and Im sure you will see it in a different light. Otherwise take a look at the many reports or videos that have been made on the subject. Bioware's forum is full of people critisizing the ending in a civilized fashion (very little nerdrage). Try and google: A Logical Breakdown of Why the Mass Effect 3 Ending Makes No Sense That should at least get you started.
The ending is "objectively" bad for a number of reasons. It is not that shepard dies or that the ending is dark. What most of the angry fans want is an ending that makes sense, an ending that is logical and follows the narrative presented by the game. In addition to an ending that delivers on what has been promised by bioware through their advertising and official statements. Calling people crybabies and entitled is simply wrong, when they have valid points of critique and have so obviously been mislead by a company to whom they paid good money. Would you not complain, if you bought a vacuumcleaner that was broken and you had been promised that it would have any number of different features, but it does not?
i'm hooked on me3 multiplayer. and even though the sp ending might suck. the game is still GREAT. one of the best. i can't wait for this. new weapons, characters, AND maps. yea buddy!
too many cry babies in the world. bioware shouldn't change anything. losers get a life and stop crying! i wasn't 100% satisfied with the ending, but what game ending am i 100% satisfied with? none. dislike all you want but crying enough to have your way will destroy gaming integrity for designers and creators. go cry for something that really matters!
i found the three option ending fine...... the one thing i didnt like is you have no info about the world after your choice. normandy flying away and crashing on a random planet?. thank god bioware is gunna add more.
@PlatinumPaladin You just listed a few of many MASSIVE plot holes that appear in the ending, but also state that you're cool with that? You're also cool with the synthesis option, even though Shepard has spent the entire trilogy battling that exact thing? Each to their own I guess. For anyone interested in a good, sensible read about why the ending sucks balls, please check out this link - It sums things up far better than I can in a comment box! Warning: Link contains spoilers. http://jmstevenson.wordpress.com/2012/03/22/all-that-matters-is-the-ending-part-2-mass-effect-3/
Hell.. if i confess this Comment Box wont be enough to convey how much bad the ending was.. =_=' This 2 link is enough to explain Everything..... *Spoiler Alert* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MlatxLP-xs&feature=player_embedded *Spoiler Alert* http://www.gamefront.com/mass-effect-3-ending-hatred-5-reasons-the-fans-are-right
The red option was the paragon option. It's the only one that results in the Reapers dieing. It was red because the kid symbolizes the Reapers and is tricking you into choosing an option that means they survive.
Bioware has successfully indoctrinated their own customers
Even after they were spoon-fed that the Catalyst kid at the end is really just Harbinger in disguise, they still don't get it. It's like trying to have an argument with an idiot. You can't try and rationalize with irrational people.
Nothing Bioware says will convince these people otherwise. They will continue to take the ending at face value, even after Bioware made DLC with a Cloned Shepard who was indoctrinated, and the only difference was his memories. They still don't get it.
Just finished the game prior to watching this. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?! I understand that gamers might not have got the ending they wanted, but in no way is it the giant middle-finger people made out BioWare were giving us. For the record I went the 'Synthesis' route. There is nothing wrong with it. I don't understand how the Normandy came to be high-tailing it either, nor do I understand how Ashley came to be on it when I chose her for the last mission and Major Coates made it sound like everyone died in the final charge. I only saw Joker, Ashley and Edi at the end so I'd like to know what's meant to have happened to everyone else on my team. Yes, there are a couple of plot points that I'd like explaining. I'd like to know more about what happened to who. But the thing I don't understand the most is why everyone was so up in arms about the ending. If they were annoyed they only had one or two choices, then maybe they shouldn't have rushed to the ending and made the most of the game. Bravo, BioWare!
I wish I could have been there to see some of the people who cried themselves to sleep over the endings.
@KENNYKENNEDY Have to agree with you, I don't mind the ending the story in getting they is what mass effect is all about, I think some people wanted some big boss fight but that would not had been right they cancel the illusive man being fully turn into a reaper (in N7 art book) and i'm so please they did. Let see what the DLC add in the summer, for now just enjoy the game