The Chiefs chose the worst year in history to......

baseketballr09 posted...

Can't always go by what Mel Kiper says. The draft will always have some overlooked players. Tom Brady was the second to last pick in his draft.

Brady actually had over 50 people drafted after him, but I agree with the first part.

Everyone said the Panthers had the worst year to have the #1 pick and Cam Newton turned out miles better than anyone ever expected. As a Panther fan I wouldn't take Luck or RG3 over having Newton.

Fat_Tone420 posted...

I think Vick is (was anyway) a great QB, but Reid would most definitely not bring him in. Alex Smith is a perfectly fine QB who got a pretty raw deal this season. But hes probably a "game managing" QB & we'd want a big play QB.

Vick's always been overrated and always been a terrible passer.

I think Reid would be extremely wise to not run his PHI offense in KC, but instead get Smith and use a run-heavy offense with J. Charles and P. Hillis. That division is so weak that a turn-around could happen next season if they play their cards right.

JamaalCharles39 posted...

Four out of our last five first round picks have been defensive... I say a WR or Luke Joeckel that OT from Texas A&M

Unless Joeckel has an incredible combine and just looks like the best OT in years, I don't think that's smart with the #1 pick. The Chiefs have a pretty decent OL to be the worst team in the league. There isn't a WR worth a #1 pick in this draft, might not be one worth a top 10 pick. I also think their defense is good enough to not need a player at #1.

I think the Chiefs are probably going to be stuck with Geno Smith/whoever is the #1 prospect by then. There's not a team that I can see willing to trade up to #1 with them and their biggest need is QB.

I know Fat Andy doesn't know how to use a balanced offense, but if he were smart he'd get Geno Smith and let him do some pistol formation plays that helped RG3 this year, plus hand the ball off to Charles and Hillis. I know he liked his pass-first offense in Philly, but if he expects to have success with the Chiefs roster the way it is now, he's going to have to be at least 45% run.

ford0 posted...

Sure the Raiders and Chargers are a joke, and you can add the Chiefs to that list as well, but last I checked Peyton Manning is still in that division. The best the Chiefs can hope for is Peyton to retire or have another neck surgery.

I know the Broncos look unstoppable, but I don't think they are. If the AFC West teams weren't such garbage the Broncos wouldn't have the #1 seed. One unfortunate injury to the QB/OL/defense could very well cause the Broncos to collapse.

However, I wasn't necessarily saying the Chiefs would win the division. They could fight for a WC given how bad the division is. The Chiefs are capable of competing, but with a few extra pieces and better coaching they could get a WC. 4 easy wins in the division (Oak/SD), maybe split a game with DEN, and they're a 5-1 team. They play the weak NFC East next season, so that should be at least 2-2 (assuming KC improves), and then they play AFC South, which should be at least 2-2 (HOU and IND are the only threats), and their two 4th place teams they play are CLE and BUF, an easy 2-0. That'd put them at 11-5. Anything's possible in the west.

Von_Jaeger posted...

Vick can be dangerous though. He's got the fastest release I've ever seen and he's dangerous with his legs. He simply was stuck in a bad system for his skill set in Philly. Am I calling him a top ten QB? Hell no but I think Vick is perfectly viable for a starting quarterback in the league.

That being said, Reid will never go run heavy, but you will see a heavier running game here than you would in Philly. If Reid was smart, he'd pick up someone like Glennon or Wilson and sign/trade for Alex Smith and let his pick mature for a few years. Geno Smith isn't the answer and its gonna show itself in a few years if they take him.

Vick can be dangerous, but he can also be (more typically) mistake AND injury prone. He's not going to help the Chiefs. He always misses 5+ games per season, last season he was averaging over 2 turnovers per game at one point, and he's only had one season where he appeared to be a decent passer.

I think Geno Smith can be a younger, less injured version of Vick. I don't expect Smith to be a top 10 QB ever, but he's young, so he could possibly still be coached to improve, whereas Vick is as good as he'll ever be. At best, Vick gives you a 8-10 win season, then sucks there on. I think The Chiefs might be stuck picking Smith though.