Saying FF needs to go back to its roots = Tell Americans to vote for Republican
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Nov 7, 2012 9:28 am GMT
Elice_Carol posted...What is FF's roots? A bunch of jobs, a medieval setting and active turn based combat? We already have a lot of FFs that fit the bill, so I think they should push the limits of fantasy and whatnot.
They have already passed the limits.
Nov 7, 2012 9:45 am GMT
Smashwarlocks posted...The fanbase is too wacky. They want a remake of the fifth best game in the series which is VII. That is the american segment.(which I belong)Not saying a remake is a bad idea. But with it being on new tech there would definitely be changes in the battle system which would start a rage war.
The fanbase does not know what it wants, and it is divided against itself.
They have already passed the limits. Indeed, time to go back and they need to stop pushing the envelope. Make lower budget titles that do more with less, instead of high budget games that do less with more.
What is FF's roots? A bunch of jobs, a medieval setting and active turn based combat? We already have a lot of FFs that fit the bill, so I think they should push the limits of fantasy and whatnot If they did this some people would be feeling better about the series. There is a time and a place for innovation, but the series should also not deviate to far from what made it a sucess in the first place.
What makes a FF game good for me is a combonation of the following.
Interesting story and characters
Good Music
Solid Gameplay
Replayability factor
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Nov 7, 2012 11:11 am GMT
Too bad Obama won.
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Nov 7, 2012 11:12 am GMT
Lebreau_ posted...Too bad Obama won.
He doesn't like pandas.
Nov 7, 2012 11:16 am GMT
Romangelo posted...DragoonGriffith posted...
King_Shortt_IX posted...
It is calling for SE to return to making good games.
Yeah, I think people are mistaking nostalgia for wanting quality games in the series again.
I've seen a lot of people actually asking for nostalgia elements, not quality games.
FFXII was a high quality game, people still hate it because it doesn't has good old FF gameplay.
High quality in what areas? Nice looking graphics and long flash cutscenes are nice but I am PLAYING final fantasy to PLAY the game. I am not wanting to WATCH the game.
Nov 7, 2012 11:17 am GMT
kupo1705 posted...Lebreau_ posted...
Too bad Obama won.
He doesn't like pandas.
He loves Pandas. He told me.
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Nov 7, 2012 11:42 am GMT
DragoonGriffith posted...King_Shortt_IX posted...
It is calling for SE to return to making good games.
Yeah, I think people are mistaking nostalgia for wanting quality games in the series again.
Bingo
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Nov 7, 2012 11:53 pm GMT
all the IV and IX fans voted for Republican. we know it.
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Nov 8, 2012 12:15 am GMT
Romangelo posted...yeah, people nowadays want freedom, new generations, fresh air, changing, etc.
people who living in their 90's dream world are gonna cry but they'll never have a chance to revive something that already dead.
But the nineties were Clinton years...
Nov 8, 2012 12:29 am GMT
heartlessprinny posted...Romangelo posted...
yeah, people nowadays want freedom, new generations, fresh air, changing, etc.
people who living in their 90's dream world are gonna cry but they'll never have a chance to revive something that already dead.
But the nineties were Clinton years...
they're too young to vote back then.
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Nov 8, 2012 1:19 am GMT
Romangelo posted...heartlessprinny posted...
Romangelo posted...
yeah, people nowadays want freedom, new generations, fresh air, changing, etc.
people who living in their 90's dream world are gonna cry but they'll never have a chance to revive something that already dead.
But the nineties were Clinton years...
they're too young to vote back then.
Wanting for the past is not always a bad thing. To use your political example...
The Republican party does have some ideas, mostly social which stem from the distant past, however much of the party's recent activities are a relativity new phenomenon. Even though many of their more extreme displays of social conservatism have been a part of the party for some time, they never took center stage until the Tea Party moved on to the scene. Prior these social conservatives were pushed to the fringes of the party, now they hold the reins. As a result the party has swung very far to the right, and the party barely resembles what it was pre 90s. In the case of the Republican party at least, going back to the past would ironically be it's way forward. However I'm sure you made your ill informed comparison with only the basest knowledge of American politics beyond the typical partisan talking points.
Anyway, the moral of this story is that sometimes the past was in fact a better time for a particular thing. Change doesn't always mean change for the better. Sometimes you try hard to appeal to a specific audience, only to alienate too many whom saw to your rise. This has been the case for both the American Republican party and the Final Fantasy franchise.
Nov 8, 2012 4:31 am GMT
What do people really want in a FF game?
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Nov 8, 2012 8:31 pm GMT
Can we all agree they need to make a sequel to the original Final fantasy Tactics. We need more Ramza and Orlandu.
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Nov 8, 2012 8:39 pm GMT
Smashwarlocks posted...Can we all agree they need to make a sequel to the original Final fantasy Tactics. We need more Ramza and Orlandu.
What makes you think a sequel will have those two characters?
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Nov 8, 2012 9:28 pm GMT
I see the Tea Party are saying they lost because Romney was not right wing enough. Well, good luck in the 2200 election, the next one the Republicans will have a chance in.
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Nov 9, 2012 12:08 am GMT
King_Shortt_IX posted...What do people really want in a FF game?
I want drama, art and literature. And I feel like that's exactly what the current Square Enix is trying to eliminate from the Final Fantasy series. It used to be like Lord of the Rings: magical, enchanting, grand adventure. FFXIII is more like The Matrix: high tech, flash and action. I feel like they are really trying to trade in charm for cool in an effort to draw in younger teenage audiences who don't appreciate art and look for flashy action.
But that's just me and my opinion. I'm the kind of guy who would not put scifi novels and fantasy novels on the same shelf, which would likely be under the scifi banner.
It just seems to me like gone from the series are the castles, the princesses, the knights, and perhaps other cultural variants like temples and such.
Nov 9, 2012 3:29 am GMT
TheGreatPotato posted...I see the Tea Party are saying they lost because Romney was not right wing enough. Well, good luck in the 2200 election, the next one the Republicans will have a chance in.
Which is funny considering he lost in large part due to swinging so far right in order to win the Republican primaries, and then making a late game shift toward the center to appeal to moderate voters. All he ended up doing was make himself look entirely disingenuous. Even though the majority of politicians are in fact pathetic panderers, it's not exactly something you want to be defined by. Herein lies the dilemma of the modern Republican party. You need to be a right wing extremist to win the primary, and a center right moderate to win the presidential election, due to the difference in demographics that vote in each event. You have to do both of these things while also not coming off as a flip flopper.
Nov 9, 2012 3:32 am GMT
Smashwarlocks posted...Can we all agree they need to make a sequel to the original Final fantasy Tactics. We need more Ramza and Orlandu.
How about a prequel featuring Balbanes, Orlandu and the 50 year war.
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