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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:30 pm GMT
    -Excellent clear time
    -Excellent ganks
    -Strong early game
    -Scales well with items

    What am I missing here
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:32 pm GMT
    I wouldn't call his clear time "excellent".
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:32 pm GMT
    Squishy
    Long CD ult
    Decent CC
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:33 pm GMT
    From: Shadow Edge | #002
    I wouldn't call his clear time "excellent".


    have you ever played him
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:36 pm GMT
    A wild Olaf appears and eats him up.
  • Nov 14, 2012 11:37 pm GMT
    From: Icecreamdunwich | #005
    A wild Olaf appears and eats him up.


    Yes, I would also say that Olaf is an extremely strong champion.
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:39 pm GMT
    And an extremely hard counter to Nocturne.
  • Nov 14, 2012 11:40 pm GMT
    From: Icecreamdunwich | #007
    And an extremely hard counter to Nocturne.


    How?
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:41 pm GMT
    From: Shuriko | #008
    From: Icecreamdunwich | #007
    And an extremely hard counter to Nocturne.


    How?


    Olaf ult: Negates all of Nocturne's debuffs
    Olaf E: Blasts squishy Nocturne away
    Olaf gets armor: Negates nearly all the damage Nocturne does

    He just eats away Nocturne like there is no tomorrow.
  • Nov 14, 2012 11:42 pm GMT
    He only brings damage to a team comp and possibly a initiation with his ult.

    His weakness's are that he's only good at ganking. He's not built to do take damage so he doesnt shine in that area.

    He also cant carry a team and brings little in late game team fights. I would advise picking him as a jungler if your team already has enough beefiness and could really use the extra damage and help early game.
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  • Nov 14, 2012 11:43 pm GMT
    From: Icecreamdunwich | #009
    From: Shuriko | #008
    From: Icecreamdunwich | #007
    And an extremely hard counter to Nocturne.


    How?


    Olaf ult: Negates all of Nocturne's debuffs
    Olaf E: Blasts squishy Nocturne away
    Olaf gets armor: Negates nearly all the damage Nocturne does

    He just eats away Nocturne like there is no tomorrow.


    And Nocturne can shield Olaf E to give him his own attack speed steroid

    They both have abilities they can use. Yes, you didn't need to confirm this. Now tell me how one's kit trumps the other's.
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  • Nov 15, 2012 12:09 am GMT
    Doesn't true damage penetrate shields?

    Either way, Nocturne does not have as good a clear time as you think, his fear is unreliable, his ultimate has a very long cooldown and he's very farm dependent.

    Basically, he's prone to being bullied in his jungle and he'll have trouble getting back into the game due to long cooldowns.
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  • Nov 15, 2012 1:09 am GMT
    Not as tanky as popular cc junglers, not as much 100-0 potential as kill junglers, no stupidly fast clear times as farm junglers. His ult is good but has a high cd for something that can be pretty lackluster if a team refuses to be caught out of position. That's just my two cents on nocturne.
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  • Nov 15, 2012 1:18 am GMT
    daftalive08 posted...
    Doesn't true damage penetrate shields?


    Think of all the times you thought ignite would kill Shen/Riven, then he/she uses their respective shield.

    Plus Noct's spell shield stops abilities regardless of their damage type, like Sivir's.
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  • Nov 15, 2012 2:29 am GMT
    From: Will_Underscore | #014
    daftalive08 posted...
    Doesn't true damage penetrate shields?


    Think of all the times you thought ignite would kill Shen/Riven, then he/she uses their respective shield.

    Plus Noct's spell shield stops abilities regardless of their damage type, like Sivir's.

    Meh, shows how much I pay attention and button mash
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