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- Feb 14, 2013 6:23 am GMTIs there any official explanation? I've tried looking it up and all I see are stupid fan theories, i don't wanna read that crap, i want to know the REAL story and it seems like this game doesn't really have one. A huge disappointment. The game keeps you chasing the carrot on a stick, you think it's gonna explain something, but then it just ends.
2 janitors calling people and telling them to kill for fun? And for some reason.. they listen? It makes NO GODDAMN SENSE!!!!!!
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- Feb 14, 2013 2:05 pm GMTOh no! You have to think for yourself O_O
Might wanna stop using that username...
- Feb 14, 2013 4:25 pm GMTYou didn't find all of the scrabble pieces, did you?
- Feb 14, 2013 11:04 pm GMTI'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that this is the most detailed story you've seen in a game.
Anyway, the scrabble pieces do help, but only if you're willing to piece together the story yourself. That's the whole point of games told like this- To figure out the story yourself. That's why these kinds of games have loads of "fan theories" and interpretations. You won't find the official story, because the whole point was to see if people could FIND it.
In this game, the creators explicitly stated that.
But if you don't want to work out what's going on for yourself, the only shortcut you have are the "fan theories." These are our attempts at piecing the story together, and they're as close as you'll get to the "official story." But it seems you don't want to do that, and you certainly don't want to figure it out on your own, soo... I'm not sure what to tell you.
- Feb 14, 2013 11:35 pm GMTThe story isn't that detailed (if it were, there would be no need for theories) and you don't need to think too much about it either. The extra information you get from finding and unscrambling the scrabble pieces tells you in a pretty clear way what caused all of this, which is nearly all of the information available and explains most of the story pretty well, fitting in perfectly with the newspaper clippings in Mask-Bro's room. The individual motivations of the characters are mostly vague, and Mask-Bro's story is vague itself because of the comma. But anything you come up with to explain things is nothing but speculation and is no more valid than someone taking it all at face value and deciding that there's nothing else to it, since that's also a valid approach to storytelling and one that Cactus has used before in his games. So I don't see the need to look down on someone making concrete questions. And looking at the levels of pretentiousness in the topic discussing the ending, I can understand why someone would want to avoid it.
So on topic, the information you get from completing the scrabble puzzle answers the questions of why the janitors were doing it and why the people they were leaving messages to were cooperating with them. So that should be enough for the TC if those are the only problems.
- Feb 15, 2013 9:56 pm GMTThis game is about the "plot" the way that Fight Club is about Tyler Durden.
The meat of the game is in its commentary on video games, violence and gamers. The satisfyingly gory violence, the thrill of killing somebody and splattering their brains, and the rush of adrenaline are more important to the purpose of the game than some phone calls. But you could probably look this stuff up. I mean, "do you like hurting people?" is as close to the thesis of this game as you're gonna get, IMO.
Who even cares about the actual story, it's obviously a blatant vehicle for the larger commentary, as well as an excuse to keep you killing.
But that's my interpretation, and yours may be equally as valid.
"If less is more, just think how much more more will be!" - Dr. Frasier Crane
- Feb 15, 2013 11:13 pm GMTI respectfully disagree on the grounds that there's absolutely no consequence to all the violence. You could argue that the consequence is more violence, but you solve that other violence towards you with even more violence that goes unpunished. Plus, Cactus would be the Emperor of Hypocrisy if this was the theme of the game, considering the other games he's done. And he doesn't give enough of a **** to be a hypocrite.
- Feb 16, 2013 7:52 pm GMTAny story is going to be a vehicle for something, but until you understand that story, you can't fully understand why it is what it is. Until you find a place for every part of the plot (Especially in one crafted as well as this), you can't say it isn't about the plot. To sum it all up in a single statement would be insulting to what has gone into this.
I know that I, as well as many others, have come up with theories and ideas, collaborated, and wracked our brains trying to unravel every part of this story. And then Cactus comes out and says that he hasn't read anything that was close to the story as he wrote it. So there really is a lot going on. Dismiss it all, if you want, but there is a lot there to be found.
- Feb 16, 2013 8:57 pm GMTTo be honest, I'm not surprised that Cactus said that. I don't know how many theories there are, but the ones in the "let's talk about the ending..." topic that I saw were either ignoring the scrabble puzzle ending completely, or just jumping to conclusions based on wild assumptions or overthinking of elements that were probably not even important to begin with. Meanwhile, I didn't see anyone even try to think about obvious things that might actually have a connection to reality, like the relationship that could be made between an extremist US Nationalist group, the Russians, and the year 1989, or how any of that could be related to events in modern history that may have still been important in the year this game came out. And that's even assuming that there's anything at all to interpret.
Reading that topic is like watching a detective try to solve a crime not by examining the fingerprints left clearly marked on blood on the murder weapon and matching them with the blood-stained suspect that was arrested near the scene of the crime and who frigging confessed to it already, but by counting the number of eyelashes on the victim's right eye and trying to match it with the channel that his TV was tuned to and then deciding that it was aliens. And then that same detective calls a policeman stupid for wondering what the hell he's attempting to do. I am really REALLY not surprised that Cactus said that. At all.
- Feb 17, 2013 3:42 pm GMTPerhaps you should read through the conversations that took place on my theory, then. But note that I only analyzed the story. Not what it means, not how it connects to history, not how it is "relevant." My only aim was to unravel the storyline as it is present in the game itself - nothing more.
And while I believe that my theory is solid in most aspects, there are things I simply can't account for. And seeing as I haven't played the game in months, it isn't something I aim to correct anymore, either. But it cannot be denied that there is a LOT going on in this game.
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