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- Jan 25, 2013 1:50 pm GMTadz-spec posted...
But as nativengine keeps saying, Grove Street is very different in that it has a major connection to the story and characters of GTA SA. That story and those characters exist only within that universe...Putting a Grove Street in GTA V is not necessary at all, and basically breaks the established rules of Rockstar's universes.
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Napalms and nukes may break my bones, but machine guns will never hurt me. - Jan 25, 2013 3:32 pm GMTI_know_u posted...
adz-spec posted...
This is going nowhere and you're missing my points anyway. Bottom line is, I don't believe Grove Street will or can be in GTA V. That is based on what Rockstar have confirmed about their universes and looking at the history of the series, what has carried over and what hasn't. If you disagree, then fair enough.
You have no points. It seems to me that you can't understand what rockstar does with their decisions and you think you have some sort of pattern over the fact of naming areas in the game. As all the points you so called had, you came unprepared. And everytime I stumped you, you came back with an "Oh, it does have to do with the story..." and it's annoying when people are proved wrong and come back and say things like, "uh, oh yeah that did happened". Grove street has a possibility to come back. Viewing the possibilities of past decisions of rockstar.
No fan would be mad. It would be a reminder of such a well crafted game with outstanding achievements in gaming history. On top of this game. it's well thought out to get fans babbling about it in excitement. But youre not able to think about it in an creative point of view instead of giving random names to an areas of the game.
I think you just argued the same points for over hundred posts.
I have to agree with adz though, based on past games from GTA Grove St. will not return in the story. At most it would just be a small easter egg as a run down street.
The idea that Vinewood played a huge part in GTA:SA's story is laughable. It just didn't affect the story at all. IIRC none of the main characters even mentioned Vinewood in the dialogue. Having it return is no more special than the city being called Los Santos.
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I shouldaa used a rubba! - Jan 26, 2013 12:04 am GMT^ This guy gets it.
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PSN: adz-spec - Jan 26, 2013 4:07 am GMTadz-spec posted...
^ This guy gets it.
At least someone does
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Elected Leader of the GTA5 360 board - Jan 26, 2013 11:40 am GMTnativengine posted...
adz-spec posted...
^ This guy gets it.
At least someone does
Alot of fans actually like the idea of a grove street. If you look at past comments, people actually would like the name adopted over from San Andreas to V. R* could decide to please their lovely fans and stamp the name on a cup-de-sac as an easter egg or street name. Even if it did have to do with the story. In fact, making it do with the story makes it much more possible to be planted as an easter egg, and for fans to bask in the Grove street memories without affecting the current story taking place. So things like this can be brought back. Just like they did with Francis International Airport an Vinewood. "Oh, but Vinewood had nothing to do with the story" Yes it did. "Oh, but my dear old R* just decided to put a few missions there, it doesn't count." Really... where do we draw the line between what you put in and what you can't? Even with the naming of the series, GTA III to GTA IV. Though they claim a different universe but yet are in the same world. MIND BLOW. Sure, Star wars was edited. Was it a different universe? No. Family guy birthed The Cleveland show. Was it a different universe? No. R* saying San Andreas is a different universe from V is like McDonalds saying they don't put fillers or extenders in their pork.
You re saying that it is utterly impossible for Grove street to make a comeback when you aren't able to look through the unorganized decisions they made. And you don't see the random path that R* takes in previous generations with names. You aren't able to create logic in you're head, even with past references presented to you. So you basically can't make predictions based on past information to at least some level of degree. You done goofed.
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Napalms and nukes may break my bones, but machine guns will never hurt me. - Jan 26, 2013 3:37 pm GMTrk_711 posted...
I_know_u posted...
adz-spec posted...
This is going nowhere and you're missing my points anyway. Bottom line is, I don't believe Grove Street will or can be in GTA V. That is based on what Rockstar have confirmed about their universes and looking at the history of the series, what has carried over and what hasn't. If you disagree, then fair enough.
You have no points. It seems to me that you can't understand what rockstar does with their decisions and you think you have some sort of pattern over the fact of naming areas in the game. As all the points you so called had, you came unprepared. And everytime I stumped you, you came back with an "Oh, it does have to do with the story..." and it's annoying when people are proved wrong and come back and say things like, "uh, oh yeah that did happened". Grove street has a possibility to come back. Viewing the possibilities of past decisions of rockstar.
No fan would be mad. It would be a reminder of such a well crafted game with outstanding achievements in gaming history. On top of this game. it's well thought out to get fans babbling about it in excitement. But youre not able to think about it in an creative point of view instead of giving random names to an areas of the game.
I think you just argued the same points for over hundred posts.
I have to agree with adz though, based on past games from GTA Grove St. will not return in the story. At most it would just be a small easter egg as a run down street.
The idea that Vinewood played a huge part in GTA:SA's story is laughable. It just didn't affect the story at all. IIRC none of the main characters even mentioned Vinewood in the dialogue. Having it return is no more special than the city being called Los Santos.
It seems you haven't been following the thread here. You're the first one here to assume that we said Grove street is going to be in the story. Read our posts before you even begin to type. And by the way, you wouldn't be complaining about it being in the game.
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So I don't have to meet u - Jan 26, 2013 3:57 pm GMTThis topic is starting to make me dislike Grove Street.
And groves.
And every street ever.
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Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.
PSN: DeltaMustang65 GT5 Garage:http://www.mygranturismo.net/25743 - Jan 26, 2013 11:50 pm GMTDark_volkswagen posted...
nativengine posted...
adz-spec posted...
^ This guy gets it.
At least someone does
Alot of fans actually like the idea of a grove street. If you look at past comments, people actually would like the name adopted over from San Andreas to V. R* could decide to please their lovely fans and stamp the name on a cup-de-sac as an easter egg or street name. Even if it did have to do with the story. In fact, making it do with the story makes it much more possible to be planted as an easter egg, and for fans to bask in the Grove street memories without affecting the current story taking place. So things like this can be brought back. Just like they did with Francis International Airport an Vinewood. "Oh, but Vinewood had nothing to do with the story" Yes it did. "Oh, but my dear old R* just decided to put a few missions there, it doesn't count." Really... where do we draw the line between what you put in and what you can't? Even with the naming of the series, GTA III to GTA IV. Though they claim a different universe but yet are in the same world. MIND BLOW. Sure, Star wars was edited. Was it a different universe? No. Family guy birthed The Cleveland show. Was it a different universe? No. R* saying San Andreas is a different universe from V is like McDonalds saying they don't put fillers or extenders in their pork.
You re saying that it is utterly impossible for Grove street to make a comeback when you aren't able to look through the unorganized decisions they made. And you don't see the random path that R* takes in previous generations with names. You aren't able to create logic in you're head, even with past references presented to you. So you basically can't make predictions based on past information to at least some level of degree. You done goofed.
You need to get over the universes thing. It's a fact that GTA 3, VC and SA are in a separate universe to GTA IV and V. No amount of walls of text is going to change that.
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PSN: adz-spec - Jan 27, 2013 8:54 am GMTI could be mistaken, but I do believe the word is, "Bird".
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Go Texans!! - Jan 27, 2013 12:45 pm GMTadz-spec posted...
Dark_volkswagen posted...
nativengine posted...
adz-spec posted...
^ This guy gets it.
At least someone does
Alot of fans actually like the idea of a grove street. If you look at past comments, people actually would like the name adopted over from San Andreas to V. R* could decide to please their lovely fans and stamp the name on a cup-de-sac as an easter egg or street name. Even if it did have to do with the story. In fact, making it do with the story makes it much more possible to be planted as an easter egg, and for fans to bask in the Grove street memories without affecting the current story taking place. So things like this can be brought back. Just like they did with Francis International Airport an Vinewood. "Oh, but Vinewood had nothing to do with the story" Yes it did. "Oh, but my dear old R* just decided to put a few missions there, it doesn't count." Really... where do we draw the line between what you put in and what you can't? Even with the naming of the series, GTA III to GTA IV. Though they claim a different universe but yet are in the same world. MIND BLOW. Sure, Star wars was edited. Was it a different universe? No. Family guy birthed The Cleveland show. Was it a different universe? No. R* saying San Andreas is a different universe from V is like McDonalds saying they don't put fillers or extenders in their pork.
You re saying that it is utterly impossible for Grove street to make a comeback when you aren't able to look through the unorganized decisions they made. And you don't see the random path that R* takes in previous generations with names. You aren't able to create logic in you're head, even with past references presented to you. So you basically can't make predictions based on past information to at least some level of degree. You done goofed.
You need to get over the universes thing. It's a fact that GTA 3, VC and SA are in a separate universe to GTA IV and V. No amount of walls of text is going to change that.
You were proved wrong so many times. You shouldn't be even talking. You're making a big deal out of a tooltip on the side of your screen, just like Gastroid said.
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So I don't have to meet u - Jan 27, 2013 7:09 pm GMTadz-spec posted...
BIGMIKEWWE1 posted...
it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't in
Quite the opposite actually. GTA V (and IV) take place in a completely separate universe to the GTA 3 series. Grove Street doesn't exist outside of the GTA 3 universe, the same with all the characters. Therefore it wouldn't make sense if Grove Street was in V. There was absolutely nothing from GTA 3's Liberty City that appeared in GTA IV. It won't be any different this time with Los Santos.
GTA IV was set in a different LC, which means there was no Portland, Staunton Island, or Shoreside Vale. If those islands were in GTA IV, there would be everything there was in GTA3. Most likely, Grove Street will appear in GTA V. - Jan 27, 2013 11:53 pm GMT^ Sorry but you're understanding of this whole thing is just wrong.
I_know_u posted...You were proved wrong so many times.
You mean once; about Vinewood and Francis International. Which I happily admitted to forgetting about. But then I offered a perfectly reasonable explanation for those, the point of which you missed completely.
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PSN: adz-spec - Jan 30, 2013 8:26 pm GMTadz-spec posted...
^ Sorry but you're understanding of this whole thing is just wrong.
I_know_u posted...You were proved wrong so many times.
You mean once; about Vinewood and Francis International. Which I happily admitted to forgetting about. But then I offered a perfectly reasonable explanation for those, the point of which you missed completely.
You sir are a FAIL
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Napalms and nukes may break my bones, but machine guns will never hurt me. - Jan 30, 2013 10:15 pm GMTSo, ah, no word on Grove Street, then?
I guess we can /topic now.
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Silence is golden. Duct tape is silver.
PSN: DeltaMustang65 GT5 Garage:http://www.mygranturismo.net/25743 - Jan 31, 2013 12:15 am GMTDark_volkswagen posted...
adz-spec posted...
^ Sorry but you're understanding of this whole thing is just wrong.
I_know_u posted...You were proved wrong so many times.
You mean once; about Vinewood and Francis International. Which I happily admitted to forgetting about. But then I offered a perfectly reasonable explanation for those, the point of which you missed completely.
You sir are a FAIL
How can I be a verb?
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PSN: adz-spec
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