X1 is now 360 2

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#1 Posted by Desynkronic (28 posts) -

I loved the X1 regardless. I fully understand some people don't have internet stability. But a price for further development. Now we arb ack where we started. And who knows what more features the X1 has lossed i still hope that quick switch stuff will stil be around.

#2 Posted by kitty (114552 posts) -
#3 Posted by Desynkronic (28 posts) -

Yes this is what i am replying to. The policy changes killed the original X1. Digital sharing is done with and a lot of the cool featurex X1 had are now lost.

#4 Posted by Videodogg (12557 posts) -

Good. Now i will actually consider a Xbox One as a second console.

#5 Posted by Poinciana (54 posts) -
More like the XBOX 180. It did a 180, and walked away, lol
#6 Posted by xhawk27 (7229 posts) -

More like the XBOX 180. It did a 180, and walked away, lolPoinciana

So are you saying the Xbox One is less powerful than a 360? I don't get it. It's more like a FU to the whinners. 

#7 Posted by Elann2008 (32953 posts) -
#8 Posted by mariokart64fan (19377 posts) -

lol  they saved me 400 dollars til  my  bday so

#9 Posted by robybaggio (562 posts) -

Good. Now i will actually consider a Xbox One as a second console.

Videodogg
Waste of money now.
#10 Posted by Dannystaples14 (946 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

#11 Posted by always_explicit (2709 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Dannystaples14
There will still be a heavy focus on direct download and the kinect. The only real loss here is the game sharing which was a great feature.
#12 Posted by BLAS1AN (3452 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Dannystaples14

Give what a chance? DRM and 24 hour check ins? Cloud gaming and digital downloads are still going to be available so what are we missing out on?

#13 Posted by jetjetjaguar (242 posts) -

For me it's about a hardware upgrade.  I want games to look better, play better, I want multiplayer to have more richness and larger squads, I want the games to start more quickly.  None of these are in jeopardy with MS's reversal.

 

Plus MS really didn't lose anything that they can't add back in later (do it better when you do PLEASE).

 

#14 Posted by buccomatic (1941 posts) -

I loved the X1 regardless. I fully understand some people don't have internet stability. But a price for further development. Now we arb ack where we started. And who knows what more features the X1 has lossed i still hope that quick switch stuff will stil be around.

Desynkronic
the more so-called "features" that the x1 loses the more we gain as gamers. if you want a video game console and not an entertainment center, from microsoft, then it's best that microsoft replicates the formula that made the xbox 360 the smash hit that it was. no one wanted wanted what the x1 was originally revealed as. and everyone expected the xbox one to carry over all the features the xbox 360 has except the gold pay per month service and no forced kinect 2.0, this is the whole reason why it flopped before it even hit the shelves. next thing they need to drop is the mandatory kinect 2.0 at $100 less. = win for everyone. if they do this, then they win back their install base and IMO win the next gen console war because the xbox one controller is light years ahead of the ps4 dual shock, first for FPS games and also all games in general. yeah the ps4 is more powerful but so was the ps3 vs. the xbox 360.
#16 Posted by Hells_rebelion (2877 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Dannystaples14
I can never take someone seriously when they misspell "Concept". Seriously this would have blossomed into a horrible giant man eating plant. I don't see how you people see the good in all this bad. Annoying conformists...
#17 Posted by rgsniper1 (9341 posts) -

I'm not sure how I felt about it. There were things that I really didn't like on the base premise that it was very intrusive to honest people. Then again I really do see the value hidden behind all the BS so...... Regardless I pre-ordered one before and said to myself that I would just deal with it and see where it goes. Now they switched it back and I'm still saying the same thing. On a side note and considering that Live is down right now i'm guessing a hacker decided to show they what a bad idea they had. :)

#18 Posted by Mickeyminime (1119 posts) -
Actually its an X1, that is until it has the internet update which stops you from having to worry about 24/7 internet access and which allows you trade/share and sell games, once you have that one update after you buy the X1, only then can it be called the 180. After all, if you have no internet at all, the X1 is still the same god awful box that restricts you, but with the internet/update, its good to go and your free to play online/offline........... That is of course until the X1 gets the red ring problem....
#19 Posted by Videodogg (12557 posts) -
[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Good. Now i will actually consider a Xbox One as a second console.

robybaggio
Waste of money now.

Yeah, i agree the Xbone is a waste of money now, but i will wait a year or two when there are some really good exclusives and a price drop.
#20 Posted by Rattlesnake_8 (18360 posts) -
tc is an MS employee trying to do market research.
#21 Posted by always_explicit (2709 posts) -
[QUOTE="Dannystaples14"]

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Hells_rebelion
I can never take someone seriously when they misspell "Concept". Seriously this would have blossomed into a horrible giant man eating plant. I don't see how you people see the good in all this bad. Annoying conformists...

if nobody conformed to anything it would be chaos, might be interesting but not a lot would get done would it. Buying a PC a PS4 or an X1 makes you a conformist, none of those are exactly niche products are they.
#22 Posted by nickr2d2 (396 posts) -

Here's my thought:

MS got the picture. People don't want DRM. People don't want game restrictions. Even though a select few people liked these ideas, the majority of gamers were strongly opposed.

And they responded. And the complaints are still flying?

Honestly, MS, you did good. Don't backpedal on what you did on Wednesday. You made the right choice.

Although, here's a few ideas:

Attract some Indie games (like DayZ, which is sure to be a hit if it lands on PS4.) In some cases, I think you should disregard the $10,000 update policy. You'll get some future PS4 exclusives that way.

I don't know about Kinect. You could make it mandatory, or go with two different versions (one with Kinect, one without kinect that's 100 bucks cheaper.) But honestly, either way is OK.

#24 Posted by magicalclick (22440 posts) -

More like the XBOX 180. It did a 180, and walked away, lolPoinciana

Sometimes I wonder they planned to do Xbox One80 already. It is just too much of a concident.

#25 Posted by magicalclick (22440 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Dannystaples14

The detail of Family Sharing has yet to be releaved before they canceled it. So, are you really sure Family Sharing is how you expected?

#26 Posted by istylez973 (7 posts) -
they said they might bring the digital share on an update DATS A BIG MAYBE
#27 Posted by pickettsticket (179 posts) -

[QUOTE="Dannystaples14"]

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

BLAS1AN

Give what a chance? DRM and 24 hour check ins? Cloud gaming and digital downloads are still going to be available so what are we missing out on?

Exactly. People seem to think that in order to have the family plan you need DRM . . . No, No you do not. The only reason they could not have the family plan now is without restrictions it means they have less control on how long you keep it. So I would much rather borrow a friends game for however long I want than to get a digital copy that I only get for a little while.

And as he said the cloud features and digital downloads are still there.

Microsoft took away the DRM and for some reason removed the family sharing thing even though they could still keept it.

And the other features are the same. Stop pretending DRM restrictions are gonna make the future of gaming.

#28 Posted by Alucard_Prime (2740 posts) -

I agree with you. People didn't like the iPhone when it was first announced and now people are willing to pay over $1000 over two years to own one. Same with the iPad not until Steve Jobs the charismatic wizard who I am sure could have turned a heterosexual man homosexual with just eye contact thrust it down their throat now ever one has one or is interested in one and sparked the arival of many different types.

This Xbox One stuff is the same. They set clear ground work, that people can conform with or not, it is there choice but then over time the console can evolve and adapt to make the most of the new style of doing things.

But unfortunately the Xbox One was drowned not long after it was revealed in its cradle. Now the entire consept is dead and we will never know if the idea could have blossomed into something great. I am more upset about this turn around than happy.

If people would actaully give stuff a chance the world might be a much more fun and forgiving place but no. We are stuck with old generation ideas with an upgrade in hardware. So yes this is simply a more powerful Xbox 360.

Dannystaples14

I know what you mean....I didn't really have any big issues with the original X1, but I can understand why some people did and why MS made the decision to listen to those people. However I don't think we are back at square 1, more like between square 1 and 2....the transition to digital will just take longer, and may not necessarily mean the end of physical copies, that's all....we are still getting new things like an improved Kinect and the cloud capabilities, and who knows what the future holds. I think it's a good compromise for everyone, but I still would have liked to see how their original plans would have panned out.

For the people who completely refuse to move forward and only care for spec numbers and performance, they have the almighty PS4 at 399$ only, and I'm glad that choice is available for consumers, because these people just want a more powerful PS3, and not a single little thing more, and then there are people like me who get bored easily and love innovation and what Kinect has brought to the table, and the clear choice for those people is the X1.....I still feel it's a great time to be a gamer and there are lots of games to look forward to Next Gen.

#29 Posted by Solaryellow (463 posts) -
[QUOTE="Elann2008"] Of course they would announce this AFTER THE FACT. Enough people complained and they finally listened. Typical corporations who think they know what is best for the customer. Microsoft is only doing this for themselves. They want more money.

I find it laughable how people are ready to pat MS on the back over this reversal. They didn't reverse their policies because they give a damn about gamers. Rather, as you said, it is about the dollar bill. If MS cared about gamers, it would have realized the fallout gamers would have about the original policy. Only when the realization of potential sales being lost did they address the matter.
#30 Posted by MW2ismygame (2183 posts) -
[QUOTE="Videodogg"]

Good. Now i will actually consider a Xbox One as a second console.

robybaggio
Waste of money now.

Yeah, because before when they were holding you by the balls it was SUCH a value :roll:
#31 Posted by RoslindaleOne (7565 posts) -

I'm happy with the DRM gone. Fck family sharing. Seriously, I'd rather have the freedom to play my games without having to check in to make them work than to share games.