1080i vs. 1080p for xbox?

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#1 Posted by ncderek (5513 posts) -
I'm buying a new 50 inch plasma hdtv and i'm pretty excited. only problem is, is my xbox 360 is from before they had the special 1080p slot. So i'll be geting 1080i, what's the difference? Is it that bad? Currently i'm using my lcd monitor which i guess is 720p with the cables i bought for that. what change will i see? what difference between what i will see and what i don't have? and lastly, is there any way to get 1080p without buying a new xbox?
#2 Posted by xmichiganfanx (8 posts) -
50 inches is right at the edge of whether or not 1080p will make a difference the lrager the TV, them more of a different 1080p will be over 1080i. Some TVs take 1080p over component cables, my Sony TV won't wrok though with 1080p through component cables on the 360 though... I wonder why
#3 Posted by lbhocky19 (1104 posts) -

do some research

all 360s output 1080p now just the older dont have hdmi

if your tv wont accept 1080p over component then you can get an hdmi adaptor made by mad catz that will work

and yes there is a difference especially on that size

#4 Posted by yentar480 (5066 posts) -
50 inches is right at the edge of whether or not 1080p will make a difference the lrager the TV, them more of a different 1080p will be over 1080i. Some TVs take 1080p over component cables, my Sony TV won't wrok though with 1080p through component cables on the 360 though... I wonder whyxmichiganfanx
Component cables only go up to 1080i. You need HDMI cables to obtain 1080p.
#5 Posted by starfox2468 (2782 posts) -
does yout 360 have the hdmi port under the av cable spot?if so you need an hdmi cable to get the full 1080p,if not im not sure.
#7 Posted by ncderek (5513 posts) -

i understand 1080p requires the hdmi cable. my problem is, my xbox was made in october 2007 and does not have a hdmi slot. meaning the best my xbox can give out is 1080i and not 1080p. correct?

so my 2 questions are, am i missing out on that much? and is there any way to get 1080p without buying an ew xbox, since i don't have the hdmi slot on my xbox. but yes, my tv does support the 1080p

#8 Posted by sam_nintendo (2066 posts) -
If you can't get 1080p, I would reccomend 720p over 1080i for games. For most 360 games you don't miss out on anything playing at 720p instead of 1080p because almost all games run nativeley at 720p and are upscaled to 1080p.
#9 Posted by TheCrazed420 (7654 posts) -
Last I checked, you can get 1080p thru the VGA cable.
#10 Posted by seventy5cent832 (1057 posts) -

i understand 1080p requires the hdmi cable. my problem is, my xbox was made in october 2007 and does not have a hdmi slot. meaning the best my xbox can give out is 1080i and not 1080p. correct?

so my 2 questions are, am i missing out on that much? and is there any way to get 1080p without buying an ew xbox, since i don't have the hdmi slot on my xbox. but yes, my tv does support the 1080p

ncderek

if u r getting a freaking 50" then u will probally miss out on it..... just get the adaptor of the hdmi

#11 Posted by larocabottom1 (190 posts) -
I have a 1080p sharp aquos 42" and I get 1080p through component cuz my 360 also doesn't have the hdmi slot, so u shouldn't need to worry about getting 1080p through component cables b'cuz it does work, and if I'm not mistaken I beleive one of the past updates for the 360 made it able to get 1080p through component cables but I might be wrong about that.
#12 Posted by ncderek (5513 posts) -
i would love to hear about this adapter so i can get 1080p with my component cables. please link me or let me know how to get 1080p without the hdmi slot on my 360
#13 Posted by TWOshay2 (209 posts) -
dude digital tvs only support a digital output u have 2 have an hdmi port and u are missing out but its dosent matter, u cant miss wut u dont have so... now i have a Q? how tha hell do i post forums? i started a blog on the so called 360 copying PS3 and Wii, which they didnt it wuz apple tv and its own windows media center
#14 Posted by kinger256 (1770 posts) -

Strange....

I can have 1080p on my component cables

#15 Posted by ProjectPat187 (1971 posts) -
[QUOTE="xmichiganfanx"]50 inches is right at the edge of whether or not 1080p will make a difference the lrager the TV, them more of a different 1080p will be over 1080i. Some TVs take 1080p over component cables, my Sony TV won't wrok though with 1080p through component cables on the 360 though... I wonder whyyentar480
Component cables only go up to 1080i. You need HDMI cables to obtain 1080p.

WRONG, component cables can do 1080p, my TV accepts 1080p component on my Lauch 360 thats what I have it set at, its just not every tv accepts 1080p over component, component can and always had been able to display 1080p
#16 Posted by ncderek (5513 posts) -

just bought this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889187072

will it play xbox in 1080p with component cables? i really want 1080p but my xbox doesn't have hdmi slot

#17 Posted by Tokeism (2305 posts) -
I'm running my 360 at 1080p through component cable
#18 Posted by larocabottom1 (190 posts) -
Like I said before, I don't think u should have a problem displaying 1080p with the component cables,I'm getting 1080p and my xbox doesn't have an hdmi slot, I'm not using no adapter or anything special just the component cables that came with my 360. Q- when u go to your settings on ur 360 does it have the option to select the resolution to 1080p, If it does then as soon as u get ur tv, set the resolution to 1080p and that's it. It won't let u set it right now cuz u don't have a 1080p tv but when u get it u should b fine.
#19 Posted by Old_Gooseberry (3470 posts) -
a lot of games use 720p, and the newer ones are doing 1080p. my tv is only 1080i, and the games look crisp, so I don't think you are missing anything much, just wait for your 360 to die before replacing it.
#20 Posted by guyzooi (1 posts) -
its actually is possible to get 1080p from component cables and the 360 does output 1080p over component. Some TV manufactures do not support 1080p over component. This is because of HDCP standards I believe. I know because I had a BENQ monitor that displayed 1080p over component from my xbox fine now I have panasonic plasma that displays nothing when I have my xbox set at 1080p using component I must use 1080i. I heard samsung TVs allow 1080p over component, not sure though. read this however as it says you must have the correct component cables in order to get true 1080p. Hope that clears it up... http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/251810/is-hdcp-the-only-reason-why-component-cables-won-t-be-used-for-1080p
#21 Posted by Cobra1237 (1113 posts) -

its actually is possible to get 1080p from component cables and the 360 does output 1080p over component. Some TV manufactures do not support 1080p over component. This is because of HDCP standards I believe. I know because I had a BENQ monitor that displayed 1080p over component from my xbox fine now I have panasonic plasma that displays nothing when I have my xbox set at 1080p using component I must use 1080i. I heard samsung TVs allow 1080p over component, not sure though. read this however as it says you must have the correct component cables in order to get true 1080p. Hope that clears it up... http://www.hometheaterforum.com/forum/thread/251810/is-hdcp-the-only-reason-why-component-cables-won-t-be-used-for-1080p guyzooi

Yes Samsung TV's do allow 1080p over componant. I have a 52" Samsung LCD and the 1080p works fine.

#22 Posted by ryanf7271 (3 posts) -

I would say that if you have the scratch to buy a 50" plasma then you should probably drop the 199.99 for a 4 GB Xbox 360 Slim. You can buy a 20GB-250GB Hard drive for the console on amazon or ebay and save alot of money, on the other hand you can try to buy a 250 GB Xbox 360 S, either way thats what you should do so you can enjoy 1080p FullHD.

#23 Posted by ryanf7271 (3 posts) -

VGA is Standard Definition from what I understand, Now DVI will give you HD and a DVI-to-HDMI converter is about 2-4 bones.

#24 Posted by ryanf7271 (3 posts) -

WRONG, your HDTV is likely 1080p native resolution, so your HDTV will say it is running 1080p but in reality it will only output 1080i

#25 Posted by littlestreakier (2878 posts) -

Component cables WILL do 1080p. Movies force you to have HDMI for 1080p because Hollywood required it. For games however, your xbox will display 1080p perfectly fine. I can confirm this because my launch xbox 360 can do 1080p through component.

Also congrats on the 50" plasma!! You're going to LOVE it! imo go with Panasonic.

#26 Posted by alman79 (1 posts) -
I'm running my XBOX at 1080p through component cable, and don't have any problem
#27 Posted by kungfool69 (2573 posts) -

VGA is Standard Definition from what I understand, Now DVI will give you HD and a DVI-to-HDMI converter is about 2-4 bones.

ryanf7271

why are so many people wrong here. VGA and its RCA brother Component are quite happy to do 1080p as long as the TV accepts 1080p. some do not, i have tested this in a retail environment. the Xbox has its own story to tell though, as DVDs will not upscale over component, yet DIVX from a USB will. VGA and HDMI allow for upscaling of DVDs AND DIVX.

from my own experience though, VGA tended to look washed out, but i never bothered to correct it as i had an upscalling DVD player that used A LOT less power then my launch day XBOX 360.

#28 Posted by Gen_Mojo (1163 posts) -

too bad no xbox game is native 1080p and most arent even native 720p. The games are upscalled to 720p/1080p depending on the game so you really wont be missing out on that much.

#29 Posted by kungfool69 (2573 posts) -

too bad no xbox game is native 1080p and most arent even native 720p. The games are upscalled to 720p/1080p depending on the game so you really wont be missing out on that much.

Gen_Mojo

there are a few games that are 1080p, only really a few. In this day and age of quick dev time and multiplat releases, no one wants to get caught taking to long to render 1080p textures when they can easily pump out 640p and 90% of people wont notice.

#30 Posted by wwf20112 (2133 posts) -

[QUOTE="Gen_Mojo"]

too bad no xbox game is native 1080p and most arent even native 720p. The games are upscalled to 720p/1080p depending on the game so you really wont be missing out on that much.

kungfool69

there are a few games that are 1080p, only really a few. In this day and age of quick dev time and multiplat releases, no one wants to get caught taking to long to render 1080p textures when they can easily pump out 640p and 90% of people wont notice.

Random post but just for reference 1080 really equals about 540p.