Why do people hate GTA 4

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#1 Posted by Murj (4557 posts) -
With everything new it brought to the table including choices you could make in the story, vastly improved graphics, a better physics system and everything else make GTA 4 one of my favourite games of all time. I know some people say that it's not as good as SA for whatever reason, but I don't know why it gets so much hate.
#2 Posted by Hathesulacon (1374 posts) -

yeah, gta4 is like the best game ever, its all around good graphics, physics, all the works san andreas has nothing on gta4

#3 Posted by bluck111 (194 posts) -
Because people have rights to there own opnion. Just because you think its good doesn't mean everyone else thinks its good.
#4 Posted by Murj (4557 posts) -

Because people have rights to there own opnion. Just because you think its good doesn't mean everyone else thinks its good.bluck111

I understand that don't get me wrong, but I have no idea for what reasons so many people dislike it. I know there are always people who won't like certain games (I don't like Halo at all) but it seems like the majority of people that I've seen on here keep saying about how much of a let-down it was. And I can't think of anything which makes me dislike the game, so I want to hear other people's reasons.

#5 Posted by jrabbit99 (2835 posts) -
It's not great- its amazing! For god's sake it's GOTY!
#6 Posted by Murj (4557 posts) -
That's probably the first time I've heard someone say that GTA4 winning GOTY was a good thing lol :P
#7 Posted by bluck111 (194 posts) -

[QUOTE="bluck111"]Because people have rights to there own opnion. Just because you think its good doesn't mean everyone else thinks its good.Murj

I understand that don't get me wrong, but I have no idea for what reasons so many people dislike it. I know there are always people who won't like certain games (I don't like Halo at all) but it seems like the majority of people that I've seen on here keep saying about how much of a let-down it was. And I can't think of anything which makes me dislike the game, so I want to hear other people's reasons.

If you really must know the game stumbles in between fun and realism. Plus if you look at the past games its about the loony fun and mindless violence. But most of that was taken away and was replaced with realism. That makes people dislike it for "not staying true to the series".
#8 Posted by fryshakewad (1178 posts) -

Im so sick of people using " people have different opinions " as an argument. We all KNOW that. I see no reason people wouldn't like the game. Most people who say, "this game sucks or i hate GTA4" are just trying to get attention or a rise out of people. I have a friend who prefers Saints Row 2 over GTA 4 its not like he hates GTA he just likes all the little customizations and 'jobs' better in SR2.

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

#9 Posted by II-FBIsniper-II (18067 posts) -
It isn't San Andreas 2.
#10 Posted by tmac200913 (16645 posts) -

Its one of my favrite games

#11 Posted by bluck111 (194 posts) -

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

fryshakewad
There is some things i dont like about this game. 1. Being use to the older games like VC, GTA 3, and SA im use to the camera being "stuck" onto the back of the car. 2. Why are my tires screeching so much? Doesn't make sense..Also why do i slide so much? Do people really not replace there tires in NY? Because thats what it seems like that in this game. 3. Glitches that make Niko pick up a bike and have the bike flip over so i have to get off and get hurt...Then the bike flips back over onto its wheels? 4. I can walk into people and push them into a car that isnt moving and the lose health and if u keep on pushing them into the car they die..Wtf? I haven't fully completed the game but im sure there is more glitches or bugs im gonna come across. For people saying the game is so "polished" what are you on?
#12 Posted by II-FBIsniper-II (18067 posts) -
[QUOTE="fryshakewad"]

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

bluck111
There is some things i dont like about this game. 1. Being use to the older games like VC, GTA 3, and SA im use to the camera being "stuck" onto the back of the car. 2. Why are my tires screeching so much? Doesn't make sense..Also why do i slide so much? Do people really not replace there tires in NY? Because thats what it seems like that in this game. 3. Glitches that make Niko pick up a bike and have the bike flip over so i have to get off and get hurt...Then the bike flips back over onto its wheels? 4. I can walk into people and push them into a car that isnt moving and the lose health and if u keep on pushing them into the car they die..Wtf? I haven't fully completed the game but im sure there is more glitches or bugs im gonna come across. For people saying the game is so "polished" what are you on?

A lot of the glitches you mentioned are really minor. If you've played Saints Row 2, there is no way you can say GTA IV is glitchy.
#13 Posted by CardiacKid07 (1225 posts) -
i love gta4 and im happy it went with a more serious approach.
#14 Posted by nicknees93 (3250 posts) -
it was a boring "game" it would have made a really awesome movie though with the story it had.
#15 Posted by bluck111 (194 posts) -
[QUOTE="bluck111"][QUOTE="fryshakewad"]

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

II-FBIsniper-II
There is some things i dont like about this game. 1. Being use to the older games like VC, GTA 3, and SA im use to the camera being "stuck" onto the back of the car. 2. Why are my tires screeching so much? Doesn't make sense..Also why do i slide so much? Do people really not replace there tires in NY? Because thats what it seems like that in this game. 3. Glitches that make Niko pick up a bike and have the bike flip over so i have to get off and get hurt...Then the bike flips back over onto its wheels? 4. I can walk into people and push them into a car that isnt moving and the lose health and if u keep on pushing them into the car they die..Wtf? I haven't fully completed the game but im sure there is more glitches or bugs im gonna come across. For people saying the game is so "polished" what are you on?

A lot of the glitches you mentioned are really minor. If you've played Saints Row 2, there is no way you can say GTA IV is glitchy.

I havent..Where did i say i played SR 2? As i said people have there own opnions and im voicing mine. Watch the Zero Punctuation review of GTA IV and thats what it kinda felt like to me
#16 Posted by nicknees93 (3250 posts) -
i love gta4 and im happy it went with a more serious approach.CardiacKid07
i hated the serious approach. i like the funny, bring back the funny!
#17 Posted by fryshakewad (1178 posts) -

Thanks for that FBI.

Now you can all see what I mean about giving valid reasons why people don't like the game.

If you are concerned about not getting damage from getting on a flipped bike or that cars aren't glued to the road, then you are putting your focus on the wrong areas. You are actively seeking out the "bad" points of the game giving a biased perspective.... Let me re-word that as a question. What is bad about the camera having a loose view of the car?

#18 Posted by fryshakewad (1178 posts) -
it was a boring "game" it would have made a really awesome movie though with the story it had.nicknees93
I'm not gonna even try to argue with you.
#19 Posted by aykevin (16 posts) -
[QUOTE="fryshakewad"]

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

bluck111

There is some things i dont like about this game. 1. Being use to the older games like VC, GTA 3, and SA im use to the camera being "stuck" onto the back of the car. 2. Why are my tires screeching so much? Doesn't make sense..Also why do i slide so much? Do people really not replace there tires in NY? Because thats what it seems like that in this game. 3. Glitches that make Niko pick up a bike and have the bike flip over so i have to get off and get hurt...Then the bike flips back over onto its wheels? 4. I can walk into people and push them into a car that isnt moving and the lose health and if u keep on pushing them into the car they die..Wtf? I haven't fully completed the game but im sure there is more glitches or bugs im gonna come across. For people saying the game is so "polished" what are you on?

sorry.. but do u drive? when u turn corners in real life you have to slow right down otherwise u over/under steer and u spin or slide plus screeh.. i think the driving is insanely realistic in GTA 4

but i gotta agree with you for your 1st point.. i am not used to the camera neither

never expeienced your point 3 and 4 though.. i don't usually push people into stationary cars.. i usually pop their heads off

#20 Posted by Spirit_Warriors (1468 posts) -

Im so sick of people using " people have different opinions " as an argument. We all KNOW that. I see no reason people wouldn't like the game. Most people who say, "this game sucks or i hate GTA4" are just trying to get attention or a rise out of people. I have a friend who prefers Saints Row 2 over GTA 4 its not like he hates GTA he just likes all the little customizations and 'jobs' better in SR2.

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

fryshakewad

WOW. What kind of reason was that?!?! Like SERIOUSLY. First you say people have different opinions, you UNDERSTAND?! Then you say you see no reason why to dislike the game. So apparently, you DONT understand that people have their own opinions. Some people just don't like that mindless crap GTA has to offer, like me. GTA is pointless and stupid, the graphics are bad and the physics are always going to be bad. If I were to play shooters, i want to play serious game. Not games like this or crackdown or crap.

#21 Posted by Elgaard2 (37 posts) -
I was somewhat disappointed by GTA4, although i would not say i "hated" it. For me, the game was just way to serious and repetitive. Comparing it to San Andreas (which i loved) GTA4 was a major step forward technically, but it just did not have any of the imagination and variety that i loved about SA. Who does not remember SA missions like "Steal a combine harvester and use it to grind its previous owners while running away with it" or "Shoot through a military depot, steal a heavy lift helicopter and use it to steal a bank transport van". For SA, the list of creative missions goes on. In GTA4 is nearly always "Go there. Kill him/them. Loose the cops." with only very little variety to that formula.
#22 Posted by MikeLirette (4685 posts) -
[QUOTE="bluck111"][QUOTE="fryshakewad"]

I have seen alot of people who say this game is disappointing or bad, but i have yet to see one of those people give a valid reason why.

aykevin

There is some things i dont like about this game. 1. Being use to the older games like VC, GTA 3, and SA im use to the camera being "stuck" onto the back of the car. 2. Why are my tires screeching so much? Doesn't make sense..Also why do i slide so much? Do people really not replace there tires in NY? Because thats what it seems like that in this game. 3. Glitches that make Niko pick up a bike and have the bike flip over so i have to get off and get hurt...Then the bike flips back over onto its wheels? 4. I can walk into people and push them into a car that isnt moving and the lose health and if u keep on pushing them into the car they die..Wtf? I haven't fully completed the game but im sure there is more glitches or bugs im gonna come across. For people saying the game is so "polished" what are you on?

sorry.. but do u drive? when u turn corners in real life you have to slow right down otherwise u over/under steer and u spin or slide plus screeh.. i think the driving is insanely realistic in GTA 4

but i gotta agree with you for your 1st point.. i am not used to the camera neither

never expeienced your point 3 and 4 though.. i don't usually push people into stationary cars.. i usually pop their heads off

Well realistic driving is not what you want to see in a GTA game in my opinion..
#23 Posted by thermalcold (946 posts) -
[QUOTE="bluck111"][QUOTE="Murj"]

Because people have rights to there own opnion. Just because you think its good doesn't mean everyone else thinks its good.bluck111

I understand that don't get me wrong, but I have no idea for what reasons so many people dislike it. I know there are always people who won't like certain games (I don't like Halo at all) but it seems like the majority of people that I've seen on here keep saying about how much of a let-down it was. And I can't think of anything which makes me dislike the game, so I want to hear other people's reasons.

If you really must know the game stumbles in between fun and realism. Plus if you look at the past games its about the loony fun and mindless violence. But most of that was taken away and was replaced with realism. That makes people dislike it for "not staying true to the series".

I'll second that opinion
#24 Posted by Morning_Revival (3475 posts) -
I didnt like the game, but the Euphoria Engine was amazing. I wish it was used in every game. They just made it too realistic this time IMO. Cops coming after you for anything, how you have to hold a button to jog, and the driving was stupid. I just didnt like it.
#25 Posted by vp22 (1443 posts) -
gta 4 is probably my favourite game and best game of this gen
#28 Posted by Eye_See (277 posts) -

To the guy above that mentioned jogging and cops being too sensative.

I don't understand. The sprinting in this game was exactly the same, for me at least, as other GTA games. I constantly tap the A button so I can jog infinitely. I remember doing that in GTA3 and I remember that for Vice City. San Andreas, on the other hand, can be argued as a more realistic game, because the player was forced to work out to build stamina. This then gave the player the ability to sprint for longer periods of time.

As for cops going after the player for anything, the only time cops chase after me is when I run into them, fire a gun out my window, hit a person, or jack a car. And these activities must take place directly in front of them, or so frequently that a person calling the cops is emulated.

To the guy that mentioned squealing tires:

I absolutely love the realistic approach rockstar took with the game. The tires squeal because you are moving so fast. Most people in new york don't go down broadway at 90 mph.

#29 Posted by Caddy (28709 posts) -
I don't hate it, I love it. It's actually my GOTY. But, people can have their own opinions, and different opinions too.
#30 Posted by fryshakewad (1178 posts) -
Ehh, we get it already. My OPINION is that people cant have different opinions.... there how about that, now we can all hypothetically argue w/out stating someones opinion is wrong, because clearly some are. Get it?
#31 Posted by 2uneek4u (2548 posts) -
Not enough character customization and activities. its the only reason i couldnt get into gta4. as for SA or SR2. theres tons of customization and activities which made the game more fun for me.
#32 Posted by Djmaster214 (3239 posts) -

man only a handful of people know how to give a straight damn answer. ok i own the game, beat it and all. I didnt enjoy it very much

i didnt find it as fun to play as Saints row2. Im not gonna compare it to SA becuase i hated the missions in SA they were all the same crap (VC was the best imo)

i hate games that strive for realism when its right outside my window. I dont want the cars to handle like real cars i want to be able to turn on a dime while going 120 mph thats why i play video GAMES. The story was great . But there were no fun missions, for instance in SA atleast they varied and they were funny ex chasing peopl ein gocarts, stealing planes, stealth missions. the only mission i thought was unique was the bank robbery. other than that it was so plain. SA was a huge and almost limitless game.

like i said saints row was a great game pretty good story great controls hilarious gameplay. also it had co op. which made a fun game even more fun.

in SA you could customize your cars to race, you cant in gat4 but you can in SR2. you can even pimp out cop cars how cool is that? you can buy places in SA and SR2 and they give you income plus the items become cheaper, cars, guns planes or w/e.

and zombie carlos. thats all im gonna say about that.

over all gta4 wasnt a bad game. but it wasnt as fun as the original i hope they dont follow up with a realistic sequel or ill just buy saints row 3

#33 Posted by tamer7788 (42 posts) -
I agree with MikeLirette, the driving is not realistic at all
#34 Posted by Djmaster214 (3239 posts) -
sorry for the double post and my bad grammar but im writing from work so i have to be fast. but in SA had so many side things to do. you could work out for instance, and increase your stamina or strength. also SR2 had character customization soooo deep. i mean i could change the way he stood while he was idle camon. gta 4 was a let down
#35 Posted by mitu123 (154649 posts) -
It isn't San Andreas 2.II-FBIsniper-II
This.
#36 Posted by tamer7788 (42 posts) -

I was somewhat disappointed by GTA4, although i would not say i "hated" it. For me, the game was just way to serious and repetitive. Comparing it to San Andreas (which i loved) GTA4 was a major step forward technically, but it just did not have any of the imagination and variety that i loved about SA. Who does not remember SA missions like "Steal a combine harvester and use it to grind its previous owners while running away with it" or "Shoot through a military depot, steal a heavy lift helicopter and use it to steal a bank transport van". For SA, the list of creative missions goes on. In GTA4 is nearly always "Go there. Kill him/them. Loose the cops." with only very little variety to that formula.Elgaard2

Exactly.. SA was way more fun and varied...

#37 Posted by UT_Wrestler (16378 posts) -
Every great game is going to have hordes of outspoken haters. This is nothing new. Final Fantasy 7 has lots of haters, Zelda OoT has lots of haters, even the Halo series has lots of haters.
#38 Posted by orbis_mortis (420 posts) -
I don't understand why some people hate GTA4. I loved it and thought it was one of the best games I ever played. In fact I thought it had a better story than the other GTA's.
#39 Posted by raylewisnfl52 (7146 posts) -
I love GTA 4 and I am glad they didnt make it like San Andreas
#40 Posted by mitu123 (154649 posts) -
I don't understand why some people hate GTA4. I loved it and thought it was one of the best games I ever played. In fact I thought it had a better story than the other GTA's.orbis_mortis
Isn't it obvious, it was realistic, and to me, realism does not always mean good and/or fun. It is a great game, but the realism, lame side activities and annoying friends is what I most people complain about.
#41 Posted by Gualoh (297 posts) -
I wasn't impressed with GTA at all. I traded it in pretty soon after I bought it. That and Mass effect. I probably put less than 10 hours in each. Just couldn't get into those games. I loved Oblivion and Fallout 3 though. Figure that out.
#42 Posted by klusps (10385 posts) -
I thought it was repetative and I didn't get into the multiplayer. Otherwise it is a great game but it is not my GOTY.
#43 Posted by k2theswiss (16599 posts) -
everythign was about the engine and story and graphics and that but it lost itws fun rockstar took it little bit real then it should had. what made people play other games so much was the killing walking around pwning ppl. in 4 so stupid because when u get one star and it makes u put your hands up soonas u move cops just shoot u like wtf dont even have a gun out. like 4real what happen to freaken sticks? so there fore if u wanna go fight a cop u just get shot they dont fight back use to love that the missions was boring after the first one it was all about killing this guy nothi else unlike the old gtas there was alot race there tons other things to do beside to drive here and kill some one the online is decent wish it was better but it was best for the type of game it is i gues just not my style theres tons of things that took the fun way
#44 Posted by makemeweak (1137 posts) -
With everything new it brought to the table including choices you could make in the story, vastly improved graphics, a better physics system and everything else make GTA 4 one of my favourite games of all time. I know some people say that it's not as good as SA for whatever reason, but I don't know why it gets so much hate. Murj
In short, a lot of people don't like it or stopped playing it because it's simply boring.
#45 Posted by bigd575 (6192 posts) -
I like GTA IV it was an amazing game just to bad a lot of people didn't like it and that don't bother me none.
#46 Posted by sammyt555 (220 posts) -

fryshakewad, the opinion argument IS a valid reason. there is no reasoning to explain what you like. i could say "good gameplay good graphics good story" but really all that means is "i like the gameplay graphics and story."

#47 Posted by kinjo13 (183 posts) -
Driving missions are horrible!!!!! The cars are easier to control when your drunk.
#48 Posted by Senor_Kami (8439 posts) -
To me its not fun. The last GTA I played before 4 was Vice City. I think Rockstar went out of their way to grow the series, but they did it in a way that was a radical shift from what they'd done in the past. You either like the change or felt like you purchased the wrong game. I felt like I purchased the wrong game. I liked the story, but I just haven't enjoyed doing any of the missions or anything that would count as gameplay. I stopped right after your old house gets bombed. That was like a week after it came out. I keep telling myself i'm gonna come back to it, but then i'll boot it up once a month, have to do some missions, not enjoy any of them and just put the game down for another month.
#49 Posted by bairdroxmysox (5 posts) -

[QUOTE="bluck111"]Because people have rights to there own opnion. Just because you think its good doesn't mean everyone else thinks its good.Murj

I understand that don't get me wrong, but I have no idea for what reasons so many people dislike it. I know there are always people who won't like certain games (I don't like Halo at all) but it seems like the majority of people that I've seen on here keep saying about how much of a let-down it was. And I can't think of anything which makes me dislike the game, so I want to hear other people's reasons.

I haven't heard alot of things about GTA IV being a bad game,but SA was pretty good except GTA IV was better.