RSV2 is gawwbage...

sadly, i agree

They used the unreal engine????? and they couldn't make the game look and feel good. Compared to COD and Gears of War the vegas game just looks like an NES game, hell, NES games look better. It's such a disappointment. It gave the unreal engine a bad name. Just look at the vids for Gears 2 and it makes you drool because of all the detail.SirCokerThe9th

Opinions are fine, and I am glad that you have one for this game. But there is no way it looks like a NES game. Maybe you just don't like the game?

I have heard Halo 3 haters say almost the same thing, "Halo 3 looks like a ps1 game!!!1!1!1"

rbsv2 is garbage im trying to sell mine to my friend but they all know its crap also :(

great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.KGB32

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

dejo256

But I do own both and am not disappointed by Vegas 2 at all. The same complaint has been made about many sequels, even Halo.

Just like the first, it's a quality game, but as you said, with additions. Online co-op through the story. ACES system. Slightly improved graphics. New multiplayer game modes. Sounds good to me.

[QUOTE="dejo256"]

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

VoodooHak

But I do own both and am not disappointed by Vegas 2 at all. The same complaint has been made about many sequels, even Halo.

Just like the first, it's a quality game, but as you said, with additions. Online co-op through the story. ACES system. Slightly improved graphics. New multiplayer game modes. Sounds good to me.

Ive never owned older halo until halo3 which i hated because it sucked to me. The whole thing added to vegas 2 should have been in a pack sold by micro$oft. It really wasnt worth $60.

Best xbox live games hands down, it is WAY better then cod4 online.

Great custimization of your character, awesome tactical fun onlin with GREAT teamwork needed.

It is to realistic for some people though, who preffer arcadey shooter games. You will die with one shot and some people dont like that. It also doesnt have all the terrible PERKS that cod4 has such as mardydum and that other bs.

Vegas 2 >>> COD4 in every way possible

This is all my opinion,as i preffer realistic shooters over arcadey ones.

[QUOTE="KGB32"]great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.dejo256

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

well yea i own the first and i didnt really feel the need to buy the 2nd one. It seems more of a expansion than an actual sequel

[QUOTE="dejo256"]

[QUOTE="KGB32"]great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.KGB32

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

well yea i own the first and i didnt really feel the need to buy the 2nd one. It seems more of a expansion than an actual sequel

Thats what i thought at first, but its MILES better then vegas 1. Its alot more realistic and takes alot more practise to do really well online. Do youself a favor and go pick up Vegas 2!

[QUOTE="KGB32"][QUOTE="dejo256"]

[QUOTE="KGB32"]great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.kozzy1234

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

well yea i own the first and i didnt really feel the need to buy the 2nd one. It seems more of a expansion than an actual sequel

Thats what i thought at first, but its MILES better then vegas 1. Its alot more realistic and takes alot more practise to do really well online. Do youself a favor and go pick up Vegas 2!

haha i was actually thinking of renting it. i was just kind of deterred since it's the same locale as the first game. plus GTAIV is coming out soon and with money short, Vegas 2 will have to wait. but thanks for the info!

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"][QUOTE="KGB32"][QUOTE="dejo256"]

[QUOTE="KGB32"]great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.KGB32

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

well yea i own the first and i didnt really feel the need to buy the 2nd one. It seems more of a expansion than an actual sequel

Thats what i thought at first, but its MILES better then vegas 1. Its alot more realistic and takes alot more practise to do really well online. Do youself a favor and go pick up Vegas 2!

haha i was actually thinking of renting it. i was just kind of deterred since it's the same locale as the first game. plus GTAIV is coming out soon and with money short, Vegas 2 will have to wait. but thanks for the info!

Thats exactly what i thought man.. i have tons of games on PC and xbox360 that i need to play (crysis, gta is coming up, condemned 2, vegas2, Lost Odyseey, The Witcher, etc..) but Vegas 2 really really surprised me, im enjoying it 10000 times more then Vegas 1, its much more of a challenge then vegas 1 was.

Opinions are fine, and I am glad that you have one for this game. But there is no way it looks like a NES game. Maybe you just don't like the game?

I have heard Halo 3 haters say almost the same thing, "Halo 3 looks like a ps1 game!!!1!1!1"

SavageM2

well, its more like a REALLY shiny XBOX game

I dont understand how people can call this vegas 2 trash... its improved over vegas1 in so many ways and is finally taking the series back to its old school roots, with more tactical/realistic gameplay then Vegas 1.

Anyone who trys Vegas 2, MAKE SURE YOU have some friedns to play with and maker sure that you play the online for more then 2-3 hours, because it takes taht long to get really good at it.

great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.KGB32

of course this shouldnt be a graphics vs gameplay debate but when the poor graphics affect the gameplay then it does unfortunately become an issue. in R6LV2 the frame rate drops massively in heated gun battles leaving you fighting in slow-mo which is extremely frustrating. if the graphics were of a high standard in the 1st place then perhaps you could let it slide a little but they are massively disappointing in comparison with the current competition and such technical flaws are inexcusable in this day and age!

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="dejo256"]

But if you played or owned the first one and got the second one you would be very dissapointed. Same game few add ons and bam another $60.

dejo256

But I do own both and am not disappointed by Vegas 2 at all. The same complaint has been made about many sequels, even Halo.

Just like the first, it's a quality game, but as you said, with additions. Online co-op through the story. ACES system. Slightly improved graphics. New multiplayer game modes. Sounds good to me.

Ive never owned older halo until halo3 which i hated because it sucked to me. The whole thing added to vegas 2 should have been in a pack sold by micro$oft. It really wasnt worth $60.

Somehow I don't think they could have added the ACES system and online co-op through the story with a simple add-on. What it's worth is up to you. I can only speak for myself, but with the time I've given the game, I've more than made up for it in the fun I've had.

The only reason I'd go back to Vegas 1 is for the more open maps. Otherwise, the underlying structure of Vegas 2 is definitely an improvement over the first.

Best xbox live games hands down, it is WAY better then cod4 online.

Great custimization of your character, awesome tactical fun onlin with GREAT teamwork needed.

It is to realistic for some people though, who preffer arcadey shooter games. You will die with one shot and some people dont like that. It also doesnt have all the terrible PERKS that cod4 has such as mardydum and that other bs.

Vegas 2 >>> COD4 in every way possible

This is all my opinion,as i preffer realistic shooters over arcadey ones.

kozzy1234

I agree with you about everything except I hate the new patch they put out I hate the responds they changed. Also who cares about graphics I rather play a game like this over Gears of War anyday Gears graphics were amazing but gamplay was crap online

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Best xbox live games hands down, it is WAY better then cod4 online.

Great custimization of your character, awesome tactical fun onlin with GREAT teamwork needed.

It is to realistic for some people though, who preffer arcadey shooter games. You will die with one shot and some people dont like that. It also doesnt have all the terrible PERKS that cod4 has such as mardydum and that other bs.

Vegas 2 >>> COD4 in every way possible

This is all my opinion,as i preffer realistic shooters over arcadey ones.

raylewisnfl52

I agree with you about everything except I hate the new patch they put out I hate the responds they changed. Also who cares about graphics I rather play a game like this over Gears of War anyday Gears graphics were amazing but gamplay was crap online

Yeah exactly, i enjoyed the gears singleplayer but the online was horrible imo.

Got boring so fast to me.

I dont understand how people can call this vegas 2 trash... its improved over vegas1 in so many ways and is finally taking the series back to its old school roots, with more tactical/realistic gameplay then Vegas 1.

Anyone who trys Vegas 2, MAKE SURE YOU have some friedns to play with and maker sure that you play the online for more then 2-3 hours, because it takes taht long to get really good at it.

kozzy1234

ummm Vegas 2 is definitly not taking the game back to its old school roots...the first rainbow six game on the PC was WAYYYYYYYY differnt to what the franchise is now...you had to plan stuff with an overhead map, you could plan paths for ur comrades to take, it was really really tacitical...

also vegas 2 graphics suck, i never really liked the graphics in 1 either..theyre better than 2 tho...i think ill just stick with COD4...its wayyy better IMo

Wow you people are horrible. I personally love RBSV2. Don't care about graphics, they're pretty decent for the 360. Sure it's more like a 1.5 than a sequel, but seriously people. Stop being so critical about games and just enjoy them.

awwww wtf i havnt played for a few days but this sounds retarded :(

RSV2 was a good game until the patch came out a few days ago. Now preset spawns have been replaced by random spawns throughout the map like COD4. That kills the tactical element of the game and just makes it a run n gun. There is no point to clear a room or section of the map because someone can spawn there a few seconds later. Ubi really hurt the series with this patch. My clan and friends I play with are already planning on going back to RSV1 between our GTAIV breaks. ch2423

no they game is good

but too easy online which made it get boring quick

the graphics are awesome btw very clean and clear

They used the unreal engine????? and they couldn't make the game look and feel good. Compared to COD and Gears of War the vegas game just looks like an NES game, hell, NES games look better. It's such a disappointment. It gave the unreal engine a bad name. Just look at the vids for Gears 2 and it makes you drool because of all the detail.SirCokerThe9th

Even though your post is a bit inflammatory, I will say I was also disappointed with RSV2. The frame-rate (30 fps) feels slow and clumsy after the brutal brilliance of COD4. And the "new" weapons and gear only become playable after you've played the game for 10+ hours. Who's the moron at Ubisoft who made that call? Wouldn't it have been nice to experience the sequel for the first time with a new arsenal? Why would I want new weapons AFTER I BEAT THE GAME?

Then there's the graphics, which have been sheened up a bit, but still pale in comparison to some shooters from a year and a half ago. And the multi.... yikes. If you can play this multi and enjoy yourself after playing Call Of Duty 4 and Halo 3, I feel bad for you. Just like the rest of the game, it's slow, sloppy, and devoid of win.

Ubisoft probably made the right call not letting EGM get their hands on this mediocre half-baked sequel, they would've ripped it to shreds, and saved me $60.

RSV2 was a good game until the patch came out a few days ago. Now preset spawns have been replaced by random spawns throughout the map like COD4. That kills the tactical element of the game and just makes it a run n gun. There is no point to clear a room or section of the map because someone can spawn there a few seconds later. Ubi really hurt the series with this patch. My clan and friends I play with are already planning on going back to RSV1 between our GTAIV breaks. ch2423

I agree.

sadly, i agree

boxofwit

I second that opinion.

[QUOTE="KGB32"]great another Graphics vs. Gameplay debate. SirCoker, just because every current gen game doesnt have those flashy graphics doesnt make it a terrible game. seriously if you wanted flashy graphics just watch a CG film if you are just going to look at stuff all the time.Macutchi

of course this shouldnt be a graphics vs gameplay debate but when the poor graphics affect the gameplay then it does unfortunately become an issue. in R6LV2 the frame rate drops massively in heated gun battles leaving you fighting in slow-mo which is extremely frustrating. if the graphics were of a high standard in the 1st place then perhaps you could let it slide a little but they are massively disappointing in comparison with the current competition and such technical flaws are inexcusable in this day and age!

Its true. I thought my 360 was all dusty inside because of the slow FR. Hell, I even thought it was on bullet time mode :D.
In regards to the previous posts R6V2 is not garbage, its only not as good as compared to the first game