Microsoft's last console

You know i think the xbox360 might be microsofts last console. Hear me out . Since bluray has won the format war and is now the obvious choice for developers to make huge epic games on. Microsoft will have no choice then to put a bluray drive in the next xbox. And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox. So i dont know folks. The 360 will be around for along time but when we hit the next ... next generation of gaming microsoft will have to pull somthing out of there butt to stay in the war. Anyone have any thoughts?

PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

You make a valid point, however I cannot see there not being a new Xbox post 360. Now that the Xbox line is making a profit and the great sucess with Live, makes me feel there will most certainly be another Xbox.

Edit: I also think by the time the next Xbox launches, digital downloads of full games may come into play, which would render Blu Ray useless. Seeing as how as long as you had a large enough hard drive, you would have no real constraints in regards to what you could and couldnt put into your game, as is with PC games. You already see this to an extent with Xbox Originals, although they are older games. I may be wrong but I think how well Originals do, as far sales go, could play a large part in whether or not full game downloads become prevailent in the next gen.

There are already movies on the marketplace that are only available on Blu-Ray. Doesnt Microsoft already pay for royalties on those or am i wrong? And i got news for you guys, games will not reach epic sizes just because the disk has room for it. Games will always be restrained by budget, time, and the fact that most gamers prefer shorter games to longer ones.

Oh please, MC has billions and billions. Shelling out 100 mill. for blu-ray is like nothing. They well make it back in about 6 months from "xbox720" sales, anyways.

You know i think the xbox360 might be microsofts last console. Hear me out . Since bluray has won the format war and is now the obvious choice for developers to make huge epic games on. Microsoft will have no choice then to put a bluray drive in the next xbox. And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox. So i dont know folks. The 360 will be around for along time but when we hit the next ... next generation of gaming microsoft will have to pull somthing out of there butt to stay in the war. Anyone have any thoughts?

PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

deigo

You are compleetly wrong.

1. Blu-Ray has beaten the HD-DVD but before the nornal DVD age is over another (and better) format might come to compete and take place in the 360.

2. Microsoft and Sony need each other, Sony Ericson now has Windows Mobile for it's mobiles. Just like Sony Microsoft might not like it but they need them.

Microsoft is a software giant, Sony is a hardware giant. It's that simple, Microsoft needs the best parts for their machines and Sony has the best.

CORRECTION: and take it's place in the next xbox.

But for this gen Microsoft has chosen the normal DVD which is big enough for almost every game till this generation is over. Only JRPG that use lots of CGI vids need more discs but japanese deverlopers should just learn to make entire vids ingame aswell.

the bluray has 50gb of space right?so microsoft can just make games that comes with more then one disc .

You know i think the xbox360 might be microsofts last console. Hear me out . Since bluray has won the format war and is now the obvious choice for developers to make huge epic games on. Microsoft will have no choice then to put a bluray drive in the next xbox. And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox. So i dont know folks. The 360 will be around for along time but when we hit the next ... next generation of gaming microsoft will have to pull somthing out of there butt to stay in the war. Anyone have any thoughts?

PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

deigo

Ok let me say this one last time Sony DOES NOT own Blu-Ray they are on the board of directors but so are a lot of other companies that Microsoft has worked with.

List of the Board of Directors of the Blu-Ray Disc Association who do own Blu-Ray.

Apple Inc., Dell Inc.Hewlett-Packard Company,Hitachi, Ltd., LG Electronics, Mitsubishi Electric, Panasonic , Pioneer Corporation, Royal Philips Electronics, Samsung Electronics, Sharp Corporation, Sony Corporation, Sun Microsystems, TDK Corporation, Thomson SA, Twentieth Century Fox, Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group / Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment, Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc.

Sony does not have the final say in who does or doesn't get to use BluRay technology and another thing Sony and Microsoft aren't blood-thirsty rivals there are no slander campaigns when a new console comes out saying things like "Sony voted to make beating your wife legal" or "Microsoft thinks underage drinking is a good idea" they are rivals, but I'm sure they would be able to make some kind of deal if they had to.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the reason the original XBox required the DVD remote was because MS didn't want to pay for the licensing on the consoles themselves? So they got around a similiar problem (yes I am aware of the differences here BTW) once, I'm sure they'll do it again.

This is stupid discussion. only reason PS3 came with blueray built in is becaus they wanted to get a big install base off the gate to establish themselvs in the format war, it has NOTHING to do with quality of games because they will NEVER filll up a blueray disc for a GAME so get f'ing real dude.

DVD 9 may hold only 8.5GB's but developers can get alot more out of it due to compression methods.

DVD-9 is ideal for gaming ppl who say BlueRay is needed are extremely loyal to sony or just plain stupid.

The op knows absolutely nothing of business. MS doesn't care the slightest about paying royalties as long as their product profits. Microsoft is the new comer in the console business, and it would be absolutely idiotic to drop out now. The purpose of previous two generations was just to build the market share, and they have succeeded in this. 360 is already a succesful product when you compare the the growth and market share of two previous generations. The next console will be their biggest push. If it succeeds, MS is among the biggest names in the business, if not the winner.

Also MS is known of speaking for the digital distribution. Who knows what they'll come up in the next generation.

Sony doesn't own Blu-ray and microsoft WILL have Blu-ray in their next console if it's standard. As stated countless times before Sony Vaio's use the windows operating system as will as other Microsoft apps for it. I don't think Microsoft is gonna shoot themselves in the foot and exclude Blu-ray if the market demands it.

As for digital download's i think it's over-rated. I have verizon fios and i'm not even excited about digital downloads. It would probabely take a very long time and A LOT of HDD space to download next gen xbox game to your console. Plus what if something happened to your HDD, there's goes all of your money spent on games?

Are you slow or something? First of all, Blu-Ray really isn't replacing DVD's because it's still a disc and when the next genration of consoles comes out, memory cards or something else will be the new "DVD". Second of all PS3 sucks and the only thing keeping them up is Blu-Ray, almost all their games have either fell face flat or are multi-platform with Xbox 360. If any company dosen't make a next system, which is a slim chance, it will be Sony, in my opinion.

... And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox.

...PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

deigo

lol Nice contradiction. Either it's a fact or you are completely wrong :)

Blu ray may be expensive now, but so was DVD when that was new, and CD's before that. We won't be due new console until atleast 2010, but which times Bluray will be 4 years old and much more widespread than it is now. The cost of drives and disc will come down hugely and it wont be such a big cost to put one in a console.

Sony already worked out that it could reduce the quality of some of the components in the Bluray drive for the 40gb version so it could save money on the cost of the console. Give it a few more years and you will be able to buy a bluray player for as cheap as a basic dvd player costs today.

CORRECTION: and take it's place in the next xbox.

But for this gen Microsoft has chosen the normal DVD which is big enough for almost every game till this generation is over. Only JRPG that use lots of CGI vids need more discs but japanese deverlopers should just learn to make entire vids ingame aswell.

ronnet

In lost oddessy the reason they dont have in game is because it tends to look just like the game and in JRPG cut scenes are meant to be seen as beatiful as they can so I really hope they dont do that.

You know i think the xbox360 might be microsofts last console. Hear me out . Since bluray has won the format war and is now the obvious choice for developers to make huge epic games on. Microsoft will have no choice then to put a bluray drive in the next xbox. And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox. So i dont know folks. The 360 will be around for along time but when we hit the next ... next generation of gaming microsoft will have to pull somthing out of there butt to stay in the war. Anyone have any thoughts?

PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

deigo

Sony doesn't own Blu-ray and microsoft WILL have Blu-ray in their next console if it's standard. As stated countless times before Sony Vaio's use the windows operating system as will as other Microsoft apps for it. I don't think Microsoft is gonna shoot themselves in the foot and exclude Blu-ray if the market demands it.

As for digital download's i think it's over-rated. I have verizon fios and i'm not even excited about digital downloads. It would probabely take a very long time and A LOT of HDD space to download next gen xbox game to your console. Plus what if something happened to your HDD, there's goes all of your money spent on games?

littlestreakier

Agree. People like to own something tangible. Plus there's no resale value. You really think there will be no more trade ins? Also, MS will have BluRay. Business is business. Companies aren't like bloods and crips like we are here in system wars.

You know i think the xbox360 might be microsofts last console. Hear me out . Since bluray has won the format war and is now the obvious choice for developers to make huge epic games on. Microsoft will have no choice then to put a bluray drive in the next xbox. And i know for a fact that microsoft will never pay royalties to sony for bluray on xbox. So i dont know folks. The 360 will be around for along time but when we hit the next ... next generation of gaming microsoft will have to pull somthing out of there butt to stay in the war. Anyone have any thoughts?

PS. I could be completly wrong with my statement mabey microsoft is making a bluray xbox and i havent heard about it yet.

deigo

Except that SOny isn't the sole owner of Bluray technology, they are just one of the larger shareholders. Sicne BR won his format war, and MS has nothign to do with HD dvd, they jst liscenced the addon for it, sure BR will end up in the next console. By time the console gets released br player will be cheaper, and they can release their next console at a cheaper price than the PS3 released at.

This is stupid discussion. only reason PS3 came with blueray built in is becaus they wanted to get a big install base off the gate to establish themselvs in the format war, it has NOTHING to do with quality of games because they will NEVER filll up a blueray disc for a GAME so get f'ing real dude.

DVD 9 may hold only 8.5GB's but developers can get alot more out of it due to compression methods.

DVD-9 is ideal for gaming ppl who say BlueRay is needed are extremely loyal to sony or just plain stupid.

ackr1TE

With DVD2 set to release early next year bluray will no longer be needed. lol_Internets1

Wow..

What does a stupid disc format have to do with game quality? Alot of the space on Blu Ray discs dont even get used by the PS3 games. Also Sony is not the sole factor involved with Blu Ray. I believe there is a higher power behind it. Quit with the nonsense threads. I still see the 360 trashing the PS3 as far as gaming goes.