Microsoft and Epic at odds over DLC

I love MS as much as the next guy but this is pretty screwed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=824172

This guy's post is not precise enough. There are three players here, Developer, Publisher, and XBL Service. Since publisher is the one that pays developer, of course publisher has to make sure their spending is not all wasted on free content. If MS is not paying Epic or Bazzari creation to make contents, then, I think MS wouldn't mind nor has the right to negociate from the first place.

I doubt XBL service has the power to change the pricing, clearly there is a lot of free contents on XBL. This issue is between Developer and Publisher. They should make this clear. Developer shouldn't pretent they are doing this for free because they get paid from publishers.

magicalclick

EDIT: bandwidth usage etc 

I guess I can't blame MS especially when GeOW is the most popular game and sure to generate the most profit. But at the same time it sucks as a consumer.Large_Soda

These kind of things are the main reasons why I absolutely HATE microsoft, but yet still love the xbox.

Micrsoft is a money mongering company that only cares about themselves, and not much about the consumer of their goods.

The xbox is something I love, not for the company, but for the games... And the one's making the games.

I can understand from a company standpoint you don't want to give out free stuff when you can lawfully charge people for it, and they will pay for it...

But the biggest thing here.... Is how come a lot of things are done?? the first day of Texas Hold Em' was free if I believe correctly... South Park in HD is free for like 2 weeks... So what is Microsoft getting at here?

Is this just rumored?? Or is there more to it then meets the eye?

Halo 2 has had MANY map updates over the years and none have cost anything... As far as I know of... And that is made by Microsoft... So there has to be more to this.

But whether or not there is more, I still despize Microsoft for what they are... And most of their merchandise... But, somewhere in the mix, they did right with the Xbox 360.

This issue is between Developer and Publisher. They should make this clear. Developer shouldn't pretent they are doing this for free because they get paid from publishers.

magicalclick

most people are saying how much they hate MS but they are smart never the less i would do the same in their shoes

:twisted:THE U.S. ARMED FORCES IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:twisted:

most people are saying how much they hate MS but they are smart never the less i would do the same in their shoes

:twisted:THE U.S. ARMED FORCES IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:twisted:

waldo029

[QUOTE="waldo029"]

most people are saying how much they hate MS but they are smart never the less i would do the same in their shoes

 

:twisted:THE U.S. ARMED FORCES IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION:twisted:

teebeenz

I've also noticed you've been doing a lot of trolling here at the 360 forum lately, so that kinda renders your anti-MS rant moot. Why don't you be a good little boy and go post in the appropriate places. 

Yea that's lame how they want to get people used to paying for everything. I agree that they should do it like Halo 2 did, 7 maps for $20, but after 6months they're free to everybody. Gears is a big time system seller, they should let Epic give out free maps if they want.Sam_Lowery

I don't agree just because the president of Epic stated all DLC on live would be free, now I could understand when Gears2 comes out and they charge for the DLC for that, I would actually pay because I think, they gave me free stuff for the first. But to make a comment, and then don't follow through is BS. And who can fault Microsoft they are a company and no matter what anybody thinks, company's only care about your dollars, not you.

I love MS as much as the next guy but this is pretty screwed up.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=824172

Newmoni

our completely wrong on that. You have to understand (though whether or not you can, I don't know) that MS has to keep those Live servers (the very same ones that would host the DLC) up and running, which in turn costs money. monco59

I guess I can't blame MS especially when GeOW is the most popular game and sure to generate the most profit. But at the same time it sucks as a consumer.Large_Soda

well I'm willing to pay 200 points because it's been sitting here for months the only thing I could buy are gamer pics jc_tkml

You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.GodzillaX8

6 million subscribers @ 50  a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

Microsoft cares more about capitalism than fan service. Epic cares more about fan service than capitalism. Fight!bman784

holy crap don't they have enough money. i mean everyone at microsoft makes at least 100k a year except for the janitors. my god must they charge for every fu***** thing. pretty soon it'll cost .05 to connect the console to the internet. a new microtransaction.Rev2221

yeah, the Janitors get paid 99K a year.

yeah, the Janitors get paid 99K a year.mazdero

[QUOTE="monco59"]our completely wrong on that. You have to understand (though whether or not you can, I don't know) that MS has to keep those Live servers (the very same ones that would host the DLC) up and running, which in turn costs money. teebeenz

[QUOTE="GodzillaX8"]You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.Hotwad

6 million subscribers @ 50 a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

[QUOTE="GodzillaX8"]You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.Hotwad

6 million subscribers @ 50 a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

[QUOTE="bman784"]Microsoft cares more about capitalism than fan service. Epic cares more about fan service than capitalism. Fight!teebeenz

[QUOTE="Rev2221"]holy crap don't they have enough money. i mean everyone at microsoft makes at least 100k a year except for the janitors. my god must they charge for every fu***** thing. pretty soon it'll cost .05 to connect the console to the internet. a new microtransaction.mazdero

yeah, the Janitors get paid 99K a year.

[QUOTE="GodzillaX8"]You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.Hotwad

6 million subscribers @ 50  a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

[QUOTE="GodzillaX8"]You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.Hotwad

6 million subscribers @ 50  a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

[QUOTE="GodzillaX8"]You do realize that Xbox Live has an extremely large amount of servers, that cost an extremely large amount of money to maintain, correct? It's not like you can just turn a server on, and then it works forever. Servers crash, servers require maintenance, servers require highly paid technicians. No, the cost to maintain them is not paid for entirely by your measly $50 a year.Hotwad

6 million subscribers @ 50  a year, not to mention the ones who pay more goign month by month or 3 month cards. thats 300,000,000 dollars. your telling me thats not enough to cover server costs? ha...

s enough to cover server costs, but not the additional costs it takes to host that DLC. And like any company, they're trying to make a profit at the same time.monco59