[QUOTE="Alx1231"][QUOTE="Addict187"][QUOTE="Alx1231"]

I'm actually about to upgrade my FX 4100 to a FX 8350. With the next gen console's specs being revealed, 8 core is definitely the future.

[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? 8 core of course is the future and when inlet brings out it's 8 core it will spank the crap out of anything AMD has. My 4 core 2500k @4.5is faster then anything AMD has..... Fact. Waste your money if you will but when you have to change over to intel like I did you will wish you just went with them in the first place. I know I did [/QUOTE] How am I wasting my money? that is the fastest 8 core processor out right now. If I went with intel not only would I have to wait till god knows when they will bring their 8 core, I would also have to buy a new motherboard. Let's not forget that I will probably have to pay double the price for an Intel CPU.... No, I think I'll stick with AMD. [/QUOTE]i bought the 3930k and am piecing together my rig as we speak. but if i could do it over i think i would go with the fx-8350 instead. BUT ONLY BECAUSE most of the games (on the new consoles) are going to be made with an 8 core cpu in mind and pc is going to get almost all console ports (like it already does) and because of this (even though the intels smokes the amds) it won't matter because everything will (probably) be optimized for amd right off the bat. IMO

[QUOTE="Addict187"][QUOTE="Alx1231"]

I'm actually about to upgrade my FX 4100 to a FX 8350. With the next gen console's specs being revealed, 8 core is definitely the future.

[/QUOTE] Are you kidding me? 8 core of course is the future and when inlet brings out it's 8 core it will spank the crap out of anything AMD has. My 4 core 2500k @4.5is faster then anything AMD has..... Fact. Waste your money if you will but when you have to change over to intel like I did you will wish you just went with them in the first place. I know I did [/QUOTE]Ivy bridge - EX i7 3980x? if it's true it will probably cost $2,000 or more.

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/crysis-3-benchmarks-amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-i7-3770k-both-overclocked

lol

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Alx1231"][QUOTE="buccomatic"]

http://teksyndicate.com/videos/crysis-3-benchmarks-amd-fx-8350-vs-intel-i7-3770k-both-overclocked

lol

[/QUOTE] That's insane. Looking at this, why would anyone pay literally double the price for the 3770k? [/QUOTE] Crysis 3 is an AMD Gaming Evolved title.[/QUOTE]and it will be this way even more in a year or so when sony ps4 and xbox720 launch because they both have 8 core amd cpu's and the same amd gpu.

game makers can't make money on pc games because they get pirated and most all of the pc games will be console ports. it will be easier to port an amd optimized game from an 8 core and amd gpu (in a console) to and amd 8 core cpu and amd gpu pc. which means even though the intel is much better in terms of performance we probably won't notice it much in the future (in most games) because game makers will simply port the exact same amd optimized game from the xbox720 directly to pc and won't want to waste money trying to improve 60 fps performance for an intel or nvidia based rig.

4k resolution gaming is what intel is going to have to shoot for in the future and who the hell wants to spend $5,000 on another new tv @ 4k or a 4k monitor? not me... and even if people are interrested who is going to make games for it when they can't make any money on them and everyone is going the ps4/720 pc/console route??

i'm not saying amd is faster, it's not. i have intel on this laptop i'm using right now (it's crazy fast and would hate having to use an amd in a laptop), have a 3930k waiting for an x79 motherboard and am going with an nvidia video card (because i hate amd drivers and their quality control issues). but i'm just saying that the way things are going to unfold, amd is the better choice for the long run because the z77 socket is a dead end and the x79 might be as well.

also amd is cheaper and you won't notice a lot of difference in most games anyways - maybe 5-15 fps difference. but if you're gaming at 1080p and you can max out your settings with an amd and still get the same performance at 1080p with most games locked at 60fps, then it doesn't matter if intel is 5-15 fps faster for gaming because you'll never see it unless you have a crazy high end monitor or (or in the future) 4k tv where the amd would fall off in performance (due to higher resolutions) and the intel would not while flexing it's muscle.

I have the FX-8350 and it does fantastic at games, but it smokes my friends 3570k in everything non-gaming.

Since this site is called Gamespot,

http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/14

Pop over to the gaming scatter, though, and the picture changes dramatically. There, the FX-8350 is the highest-performance AMD desktop processor to date for gaming, finally toppling the venerable Phenom II X4 980. Yet the FX-8350's gaming performance almost exactly matches that of the Core i3-3225, a $134 Ivy Bridge-based processor. Meanwhile, the Core i5-3470 delivers markedly superior gaming performance for less money than the FX-8350.

[QUOTE="jennycakes215"]

Wow, this is still going on? Uh idk know much about CPUs or difference between AMD and Intel but I'm running Crysis 3 Perfect so I don't see the issue here. I guess that putting as much power into a system so that I can get 5 more frames is a PC gamer thing. You guys have been spoiled! I've been playing consoles exclusively for mostly all 22 years of my life and since my PS3 runs games sub 30 frames, I'm good. Beyond that though, it does seem pretty obvious that next-gen games will be more optimized for AMD since they will be using AMD processors. That's just an obvious from the outside prespective. Like I said, don't know much about CPUs so there might be more at play that is beyond me. 

[/QUOTE]gratz on running at max! you summed up pretty much everything that i've been trying to say in the last 5 posts. i think you made the right choice and if had went the same route i would be gaming on a new badass rig right now (like you) instead of waiting for another month (or more) before i have enough money to finish mine. but wheeew! i'm gonna be flying as fast as humanly possible for the first time in my life baby! lol! really i owe it to myself. i always went the mid range econo way in the past 3 builds (was much less performance than you will get - yours is basically high end) so i decided to treat myself to the fastest everything this time. but damn it hurts the wallet bigtime and i am not sure it's worth it.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Crysis 3 is an AMD Gaming Evolved title.[/QUOTE]

Do you understand how game benchmarks work? CPU limits the upper range of frame rates. GPU limits lower range.

AMD:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.6GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.44
• 1080p - No Filters - 55.24
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 53.12
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 56.40

Intel:

Far Cry 3 - CPU @ 4.5GHz

• 1080p - Max - 36.20
• 1080p - No Filters - 59.72
• 1080p - Crossfire - Max - 76.68
• 1080p - Crossfire - No Filters - 81.56

Look at the last line. Intel CPU gets 81.56 FPS. AMD CPU gets 56.40. 

For gaming, the intel CPU is 80% faster than the AMD cpu