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EA conference on PS4 (Summary in OP)

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  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:28 pm GMT

    Thanks to gaf

    Listen to the webcast

     Update:
    Apparently they mispoke about the price.

     

    wrote:
    Important to note, they said afterwards that they mispoke about pricepoints, and he mean to say $60 and $50, rather than $70 and $60.

     

    wrote:

    UPDATE: Summary by Examiner

    • They have never been more prepaired or ready for a new console launch
    • Giant leap for the industry, every step and function. "Between 8 & 10 times the power of current generation."
    • Not limited to current generation "1080p, 60 fps, camera IQ"
    • All of internal software will work flawlessly.
    • What used to take months will now "take days" to do.
    • Seeing new ways to approach current IP's and new IP's.
    • The ability to have cross platform play, will open up new consumer base.
    • EA has slimmed down their lineup from 85 games to 15 core titles
    • Allows stream lining the backbone of game creation
    • Sony and Microsoft in-line for their transition will reduce cost of production
    • 5% to 10% increase in cost of production on current games.
    • No pricing on retail games set, but you may see a trend of "$69.99" at start and dropping down to $59.99 similar to the beginning of the current generation.
    • Saving time and money in comparison to the roadmap they set up last year.
    • Data collected on gamers through created technology and algorithms allow them to engage the players.
    • Gross margin as gone from 55% in 2010 to 55-65% range currently.
    • Due to the transition into the digital world from boxed gaming.
    • Discussed the progression and advantage of the PS4 in regards to downloading games
    • Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming
    • The focus is always focused on the "consumer experience"
    • Discussion of margins in regards to digital expansion packs and the margins it drives
    • Doing so builds an actual community, and overall over time, more profitability
    • Building into all games micro-transaction: "Consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of the business"
    • Over $25 Million revenue in micro-transactions alone last quarter.
    • Much has been learned on infrastructure in regards to the failed iOs launch of the Simpsons.
    • Absence at PS4 reveal is not indicative to their status on the console.
    • Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA
    • Thrilled with the PS4 specs - the new Battlefield is stunning

    wrote:

    My feeble summary:

    • Talked about "Gen 4" consoles (PS4/720) and implied comparable power ratio between the two
    • "8-10x the power of current gen consoles"
    • Implied they will launch very close to each other
    • Theorized that initial launch prices for EA games could be $69.99 (if that is what the high end MSRP set by Sony/Microsoft is)
    • Will continue to support digital download business, but internet infrastructure globally means retail is hugely important for the foreseeable future
    • FIFA 14 definitely coming this year (cross gen title)
    • Battlefield 4 looks amazing; implied 1080p/60fps (target for next gen games)
    • 15 core titles being worked on for next gen

    Edited on Feb 26, 2013 8:26 pm GMT Edited 2 total times.

    Thanks to gaf

    Listen to the webcast

     Update:
    Apparently they mispoke about the price.

     

    [quote=""]Important to note, they said afterwards that they mispoke about pricepoints, and he mean to say $60 and $50, rather than $70 and $60.[/quote]

     

    [quote=""]

    UPDATE: Summary by Examiner

    • They have never been more prepaired or ready for a new console launch
    • Giant leap for the industry, every step and function. "Between 8 & 10 times the power of current generation."
    • Not limited to current generation "1080p, 60 fps, camera IQ"
    • All of internal software will work flawlessly.
    • What used to take months will now "take days" to do.
    • Seeing new ways to approach current IP's and new IP's.
    • The ability to have cross platform play, will open up new consumer base.
    • EA has slimmed down their lineup from 85 games to 15 core titles
    • Allows stream lining the backbone of game creation
    • Sony and Microsoft in-line for their transition will reduce cost of production
    • 5% to 10% increase in cost of production on current games.
    • No pricing on retail games set, but you may see a trend of "$69.99" at start and dropping down to $59.99 similar to the beginning of the current generation.
    • Saving time and money in comparison to the roadmap they set up last year.
    • Data collected on gamers through created technology and algorithms allow them to engage the players.
    • Gross margin as gone from 55% in 2010 to 55-65% range currently.
    • Due to the transition into the digital world from boxed gaming.
    • Discussed the progression and advantage of the PS4 in regards to downloading games
    • Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming
    • The focus is always focused on the "consumer experience"
    • Discussion of margins in regards to digital expansion packs and the margins it drives
    • Doing so builds an actual community, and overall over time, more profitability
    • Building into all games micro-transaction: "Consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of the business"
    • Over $25 Million revenue in micro-transactions alone last quarter.
    • Much has been learned on infrastructure in regards to the failed iOs launch of the Simpsons.
    • Absence at PS4 reveal is not indicative to their status on the console.
    • Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA
    • Thrilled with the PS4 specs - the new Battlefield is stunning

    [/quote]

    [quote=""]

    My feeble summary:

    • Talked about "Gen 4" consoles (PS4/720) and implied comparable power ratio between the two
    • "8-10x the power of current gen consoles"
    • Implied they will launch very close to each other
    • Theorized that initial launch prices for EA games could be $69.99 (if that is what the high end MSRP set by Sony/Microsoft is)
    • Will continue to support digital download business, but internet infrastructure globally means retail is hugely important for the foreseeable future
    • FIFA 14 definitely coming this year (cross gen title)
    • Battlefield 4 looks amazing; implied 1080p/60fps (target for next gen games)
    • 15 core titles being worked on for next gen

    [/quote]

  • Level 34
    Paramecium
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:29 pm GMT
    Micro-transactions. DO NOT WANT D:
    Micro-transactions. DO NOT WANT D:
  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:30 pm GMT
    clyde46 wrote:
    Micro-transactions. DO NOT WANT D:

    Hoping that model fails and they go back to basics...who the hell am i kidding lol
    [QUOTE="clyde46"]Micro-transactions. DO NOT WANT D:[/QUOTE] Hoping that model fails and they go back to basics...who the hell am i kidding lol
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:31 pm GMT
    Origin support confirmed.

    PC, Wii U, PS3, Vita, 3DS, Xbox 360, iOS, and Android Gamer.

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    Origin support confirmed.
  • Level 10
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:31 pm GMT

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

    Currently Playing:

    PC: Tomb Raider, Diablo 3, Mass Effect

    PS3:Ni No Kuni, God of War 1

    3DS: Etrian Odyssey

    Xbox 360:nothing

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

  • Level 52
    Spoony Bard
    Posts: 7136
    Feb 26, 2013 7:33 pm GMT

    So finally Cows and hermits can fight together in cross-platform-play, in Battlefield 4, hermits will be own by gamepad players

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    So finally Cows and hermits can fight together in cross-platform-play, in Battlefield 4, hermits will be own by gamepad players :lol:

  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:33 pm GMT
    my favourites bits

    "Absence at PS4 reveal is not indicative to their status on the console.
    Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA
    Thrilled with the PS4 specs - the new Battlefield is stunning"

    "Battlefield 4 looks amazing; implied 1080p/60fps (target for next gen games)
    15 core titles being worked on for next gen"
    my favourites bits "Absence at PS4 reveal is not indicative to their status on the console. Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA Thrilled with the PS4 specs - the new Battlefield is stunning" "Battlefield 4 looks amazing; implied 1080p/60fps (target for next gen games) 15 core titles being worked on for next gen"
  • Level 44
    Violence Fight
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:34 pm GMT
    I'm loving the points of the power of the ps4.
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    I'm loving the points of the power of the ps4.
  • Level 52
    Spoony Bard
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:34 pm GMT

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    ...and wasnt EA going 100% Digital download only ?

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    PS4 Domination powered by 8Gb GDDR5

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    ...and wasnt EA going 100% Digital download only ?

  • Level 43
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:36 pm GMT

    darktx2005 wrote:

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

    PC games will always have lower prices so the $70 price tag won't really affect PC.

    I think this will hurt Durango the most, if the rumors are true that used games will not be allowed, plus a $70 price tag. 

    [QUOTE="darktx2005"]

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

    [/QUOTE]

    PC games will always have lower prices so the $70 price tag won't really affect PC.

    I think this will hurt Durango the most, if the rumors are true that used games will not be allowed, plus a $70 price tag. :|

  • Level 27
    Sheng Long
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:36 pm GMT

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?

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    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

  • Level 34
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:38 pm GMT
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?



    I think it connects your PSN to your Origin account rather than having it run in the background.
    [QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] I think it connects your PSN to your Origin account rather than having it run in the background.
  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:38 pm GMT
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?


    if origin is possible, would steam be too? (Proper steam... i mean)
    [QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] if origin is possible, would steam be too? (Proper steam... i mean)
  • Level 44
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:39 pm GMT
    campzor wrote:
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?


    if origin is possible, would steam be too? (Proper steam... i mean)

    Seems like it.
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    [QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] if origin is possible, would steam be too? (Proper steam... i mean)[/QUOTE] Seems like it.
  • Level 33
    Goombella
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:40 pm GMT
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?



    Yes, Sony does not offer game servers (maybe with extra pay?), just integrity tools, thats why devlopers need to provide servers for there own. Thats why Valve used Steam on Portal 2, because they practicly been forced to. XBL mix your guys head, Internet is internet and PSN is just part of it, PS3/4 can do more then that :p
    Edited on Feb 26, 2013 7:42 pm GMT Edited 2 total times.
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    [QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] Yes, Sony does not offer game servers (maybe with extra pay?), just integrity tools, thats why devlopers need to provide servers for there own. Thats why Valve used Steam on Portal 2, because they practicly been forced to. XBL mix your guys head, Internet is internet and PSN is just part of it, PS3/4 can do more then that :p
  • Level 10
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:41 pm GMT

    Blazerdt47 wrote:

    darktx2005 wrote:

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

    PC games will always have lower prices so the $70 price tag won't really affect PC.

    I think this will hurt Durango the most, if the rumors are true that used games will not be allowed, plus a $70 price tag. 

    Exactly my point. If I can get an equal or superior version for a cheaper price on PC, then there is no question what platform I'll be playing on. 

    I don't think Sony is banning used games, but all the dodging of questions about it this week leads me to beleive they will have an online pass type of solution for it. You can play used games but you have to pay $10-20 to unlock it on your console/PSN account. Durango may have an all out ban on used games, but who knows.

    Currently Playing:

    PC: Tomb Raider, Diablo 3, Mass Effect

    PS3:Ni No Kuni, God of War 1

    3DS: Etrian Odyssey

    Xbox 360:nothing

    [QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]

    [QUOTE="darktx2005"]

    $69.99 games? If true, along with the all the speculation about anti used games or an online pass type solution for used games, I'm going to be mostly a PC gamer next gen.

     

    It's amazing to me that at a time where PC gaming is thriving with far lower prices than we see on the console side, now we are going to see $70 console games. Not only that, there is a good chance you won't  be able to trade in/sell that $70 game. I've never been a PC fanboy, but all this stuff is making me turn into one fast.

    [/QUOTE]

    PC games will always have lower prices so the $70 price tag won't really affect PC.

    I think this will hurt Durango the most, if the rumors are true that used games will not be allowed, plus a $70 price tag. :|

    [/QUOTE]

    Exactly my point. If I can get an equal or superior version for a cheaper price on PC, then there is no question what platform I'll be playing on. 

    I don't think Sony is banning used games, but all the dodging of questions about it this week leads me to beleive they will have an online pass type of solution for it. You can play used games but you have to pay $10-20 to unlock it on your console/PSN account. Durango may have an all out ban on used games, but who knows.

  • Level 10
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:42 pm GMT
    clyde46 wrote:
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?



    I think it connects your PSN to your Origin account rather than having it run in the background.


    You can have XBL/PSN accounts tied to your origin account, like in BF3.

    Currently Playing:

    PC: Tomb Raider, Diablo 3, Mass Effect

    PS3:Ni No Kuni, God of War 1

    3DS: Etrian Odyssey

    Xbox 360:nothing

    [QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] I think it connects your PSN to your Origin account rather than having it run in the background.[/QUOTE] You can have XBL/PSN accounts tied to your origin account, like in BF3.
  • Level 12
    Rad Racer
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    Feb 26, 2013 7:42 pm GMT

    Didn't sony just say that their games would be no more than $60.00?

    Didn't sony just say that their games would be no more than $60.00?

  • Level 27
    Sheng Long
    Posts: 6269
    Feb 26, 2013 7:42 pm GMT

    ShadowriverUB wrote:
    argetlam00 wrote:

    ShadowDeathX wrote:
    Origin support confirmed.

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    Yes, Sony does not offer game servers (maybe with extra pay?), just integrity tools, thats why devlopers need to provide servers for there own. Thats why Valve used Steam on Portal 2, because they practicly been forced to. XBL mix your guys head, Internet is internet and PSN is just part of it, PS3/4 can do more then that :p

    Right. Makes sense that companies have to provide servers since online is a F2P service.

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    [QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

    [QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Origin support confirmed.[/QUOTE]

    They can get origin running on PSN?

    [/QUOTE] Yes, Sony does not offer game servers (maybe with extra pay?), just integrity tools, thats why devlopers need to provide servers for there own. Thats why Valve used Steam on Portal 2, because they practicly been forced to. XBL mix your guys head, Internet is internet and PSN is just part of it, PS3/4 can do more then that :p[/QUOTE]

    Right. Makes sense that companies have to provide servers since online is a F2P service.

  • Level 39
    Max Force
    Posts: 6296
    Feb 26, 2013 7:44 pm GMT
    $70 launch game? Lol, fvck off.

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    Thank you MS.

    $70 launch game? Lol, fvck off.
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