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Pentagon giving out medals to drone operators, actual veterans disgusted
- Feb 19, 2013 1:23 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Sounds like jealousy to me. I can understand not wanting it ranked above the bronze star. But the purple star isn't that impressive of a medal. How hard or heroic is it to get injured on the battle field? I would think that to be an easy feat to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
EDIT: Oh, and diablo-B, getting shot is NOTHING like the movies. You don't put a band aide on it and keep fighting. You get shot and you DROP and you won't get back up.
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- Feb 19, 2013 1:27 pm GMT[QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Sounds like jealousy to me. I can understand not wanting it ranked above the bronze star. But the purple star isn't that impressive of a medal. How hard or heroic is it to get injured on the battle field? I would think that to be an easy feat to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
[/QUOTE] "To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans." Not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:30 pm GMT
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Sounds like jealousy to me. I can understand not wanting it ranked above the bronze star. But the purple star isn't that impressive of a medal. How hard or heroic is it to get injured on the battle field? I would think that to be an easy feat to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
[/QUOTE] "To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans." Not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE]
I bet they care about merit awarded for using a joystick.
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- Feb 19, 2013 1:33 pm GMT
it probably shouldnt be higher than a purple heart or bronze medal but i dont have a problem with drone pilots getting medals- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:41 pm GMT[QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
[/QUOTE] "To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans." Not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE]
I bet they care about merit awarded for using a joystick.
[/QUOTE] Again, not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:44 pm GMT
[QUOTE="TheHighWind"][QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
[/QUOTE] "To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans." Not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE]
I bet they care about merit awarded for using a joystick.
[/QUOTE] As a UAV operator I can safely say you're wrong.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:51 pm GMT
[QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]Sounds like jealousy to me. I can understand not wanting it ranked above the bronze star. But the purple star isn't that impressive of a medal. How hard or heroic is it to get injured on the battle field? I would think that to be an easy feat to accomplish.[/QUOTE]
It's the purple heart. A purple heart goes back to the revolutionary war and was awarded by George Washington for military merit.
1. Medal of Honor
2. Distinguished Service cross
3. Navy Cross
4. Airmens Cross
5. Drone medal?
It will make it the 5th highest medal. Above the silver star. It must be a DSM, a distinguished service medal.
For those who don't know The Purple Heart is #21 in order of precidence.
To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans.
I think a certificate would be more in order than a medal. I don't think they should hand out medals for robotics.
EDIT: Oh, and diablo-B, getting shot is NOTHING like the movies. You don't put a band aide on it and keep fighting. You get shot and you DROP and you won't get back up.
[/QUOTE]actually getting shot is a complete and total crap shoot.
you could die instantly or you could get hit 20 times and live to tell the tale.
"A man in North Carolina was shot roughly 20 times in 1995 and lived to tell about it."
"Its a matter of total, straight luck, said Dr. Vincent J. M. DiMaio, the former chief medical examiner in Bexar County, Tex., and the author of a book on gunshot wounds first published in 1985."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/nyregion/03shot.html?_r=0
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- Feb 19, 2013 1:53 pm GMT
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="TheHighWind"][QUOTE="thegerg"] "To award something that high without physically being in combat is just a huge slap in the face for veterans." Not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE]
I bet they care about merit awarded for using a joystick.
[/QUOTE] Again, not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE] What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:54 pm GMT[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="TheHighWind"]
I bet they care about merit awarded for using a joystick.
[/QUOTE] Again, not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE] What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit.[/QUOTE] I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 1:55 pm GMTAnecdotal evidence?thegerg wrote:I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?LJS9502_basic wrote:What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit.thegerg wrote:Again, not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.
I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.Edit: You must be confused. I did not actually give you my opinion. I responded to your opinion.
Edited on Feb 19, 2013 2:00 pm GMT Edited 2 total times.[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Again, not all of them. Many couldn't care less about the ribbons on another man's chest.[/QUOTE] What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit.[/QUOTE] I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?[/QUOTE]Anecdotal evidence? :lol: I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
Edit: You must be confused. I did not actually give you my opinion. I responded to your opinion.
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- Feb 19, 2013 1:55 pm GMTdigitally married to the wonderful t3hrubikscubeBut uhm, if Drone Strike Obama can have a nobel peace prize, his goons can have military medals for all I care. Doesn't make the world a bigger joke than it is now.
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- Feb 19, 2013 1:57 pm GMT[QUOTE="MrPraline"]But uhm, if Drone Strike Obama can have a nobel peace prize, his goons can have military medals for all I care. Doesn't make the world a bigger joke than it is now.[/QUOTE] Non combatants should have a lesser medal. That would solve everything I guess.
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- Feb 19, 2013 2:00 pm GMTLJS9502_basic wrote:Anecdotal evidence?thegerg wrote:I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?LJS9502_basic wrote:What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit. I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] What do you base that on? Seems it's your opinion with is without merit.[/QUOTE] I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?[/QUOTE]Anecdotal evidence? :lol: I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
[/QUOTE] Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 2:00 pm GMTdigitally married to the wonderful t3hrubikscube[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]But uhm, if Drone Strike Obama can have a nobel peace prize, his goons can have military medals for all I care. Doesn't make the world a bigger joke than it is now.[/QUOTE] Non combatants should have a lesser medal. That would solve everything I guess.[/QUOTE] Ranks in medals are silly too, while we're at it. It's not collecting Pokemon cards. MEDAL EQUALITY 2013
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- Feb 19, 2013 2:04 pm GMT[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]But uhm, if Drone Strike Obama can have a nobel peace prize, his goons can have military medals for all I care. Doesn't make the world a bigger joke than it is now.[/QUOTE] Non combatants should have a lesser medal. That would solve everything I guess.[/QUOTE] Ranks in medals are silly too, while we're at it. It's not collecting Pokemon cards. MEDAL EQUALITY 2013[/QUOTE] Different medals have different points for promotions though. Something like the Good Conduct Medal would be worth less than the others. And since it's basically just a stay out of trouble and get it medal...it should be worth less.
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- Feb 19, 2013 2:05 pm GMTthegerg wrote:LJS9502_basic wrote:Anecdotal evidence?thegerg wrote:I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion? I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.
Like I said...without merit. It's an opinion and no more important than those you disagreed with. So stop jumping on the opinion of others when that is all you offer.[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thegerg"] I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others. It is fact. On what do you base your opinion?[/QUOTE]Anecdotal evidence? :lol: I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
[/QUOTE] Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.[/QUOTE] Like I said...without merit. It's an opinion and no more important than those you disagreed with. So stop jumping on the opinion of others when that is all you offer.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 2:05 pm GMTdigitally married to the wonderful t3hrubikscube[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Non combatants should have a lesser medal. That would solve everything I guess.[/QUOTE] Ranks in medals are silly too, while we're at it. It's not collecting Pokemon cards. MEDAL EQUALITY 2013[/QUOTE] Different medals have different points for promotions though. Something like the Good Conduct Medal would be worth less than the others. And since it's basically just a stay out of trouble and get it medal...it should be worth less.[/QUOTE] Ah yeah, if promotions play into it, that does make sense.
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- Feb 19, 2013 2:06 pm GMT
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]But uhm, if Drone Strike Obama can have a nobel peace prize, his goons can have military medals for all I care. Doesn't make the world a bigger joke than it is now.[/QUOTE] Non combatants should have a lesser medal. That would solve everything I guess.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is basically the issue, not that drone operators get a medal. A lot of them do suffer from PTSD and it's a hard job from what I've read.
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- Feb 19, 2013 2:07 pm GMTLJS9502_basic wrote:thegerg wrote:LJS9502_basic wrote:Anecdotal evidence? I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.
Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.
Like I said...without merit. It's an opinion and no more important than those you disagreed with. So stop jumping on the opinion of others when that is all you offer.
You seem to be very confused. It is not simply an opinion that there are lots of service members who couldn't care less about the medals on another's chest, it is a fact.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Anecdotal evidence? :lol: I base it on personal knowledge and conversations with others.[/QUOTE] Yes, anecdotal evidence. Myself and other service members I've talked to about this really don't care about what ribbons another man has on his chest.[/QUOTE] Like I said...without merit. It's an opinion and no more important than those you disagreed with. So stop jumping on the opinion of others when that is all you offer.[/QUOTE] You seem to be very confused. It is not simply an opinion that there are lots of service members who couldn't care less about the medals on another's chest, it is a fact.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 19, 2013 2:08 pm GMTdigitally married to the wonderful t3hrubikscube[QUOTE="thegerg"] You seem to be very confused.[/QUOTE]lol
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