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What can the U.S> do to stop the over-dependence on outsourcing?

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  • Level 36
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:37 pm GMT
    EmpCom wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:
    "Every country is devaluing their currency right now except Switzerland trying to increase exports. It's not working since everyone is doing it." Well........That was your quote.....
    Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing.

    FFS except if everyone else but the us does it guess what the outcome is
    Purchasing power goes up if we keep our currency steady.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] "Every country is devaluing their currency right now except Switzerland trying to increase exports. It's not working since everyone is doing it." Well........That was your quote..... [/QUOTE]Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing. [/QUOTE] FFS except if everyone else but the us does it guess what the outcome is[/QUOTE]Purchasing power goes up if we keep our currency steady.
  • Level 36
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:38 pm GMT
    Mafiree wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:


    "Every country is devaluing their currency right now except Switzerland trying to increase exports. It's not working since everyone is doing it."

    Well........That was your quote.....
    Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing.


    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action.

    So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] "Every country is devaluing their currency right now except Switzerland trying to increase exports. It's not working since everyone is doing it." Well........That was your quote..... [/QUOTE]Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing. [/QUOTE] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
  • Level 3
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:40 pm GMT
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing.


    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action.

    So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.


    Ok, so what WOULD work?
    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing. [/QUOTE] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE] Ok, so what WOULD work?
  • Level 38
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:41 pm GMT
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:
    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
    Ok, so what WOULD work?

    Do you ever do anything but ask ?

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE] Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE] Do you ever do anything but ask ?
  • Level 36
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:43 pm GMT

    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:
    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
    Ok, so what WOULD work?
    The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE]Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE]The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

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    Feb 18, 2013 6:45 pm GMT

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
    Ok, so what WOULD work?
    The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

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    KING

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE]Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE]The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

  • Level 36
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:49 pm GMT

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    Ok, so what WOULD work?
    The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"]Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE]The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    [/QUOTE]Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

  • Level 3
    Mediator
    Posts: 149
    Feb 18, 2013 6:49 pm GMT
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.
    Ok, so what WOULD work?

    Do you ever do anything but ask ?

    \
    There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.
    [QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE] Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE] Do you ever do anything but ask ?[/QUOTE] \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.
  • Level 38
    DJ Boy
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:51 pm GMT
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    Ok, so what WOULD work?
    Do you ever do anything but ask ?
    \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.

    I bet i dont

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"] Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE] Do you ever do anything but ask ?[/QUOTE] \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.[/QUOTE] I bet i dont
  • Level 36
    Radical Ninja
    Posts: 15368
    Feb 18, 2013 6:51 pm GMT
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    Ok, so what WOULD work?

    Do you ever do anything but ask ?

    \
    There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.
    Not sure what project you're working on but one of the few countries in the world run by classical liberals doing what I suggested is Estonia.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"] Ok, so what WOULD work?[/QUOTE] Do you ever do anything but ask ?[/QUOTE] \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.[/QUOTE]Not sure what project you're working on but one of the few countries in the world run by classical liberals doing what I suggested is Estonia.
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:51 pm GMT

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:
    The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    KING

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The world is more competitive than it's ever been. So in order to be more competitive we need less government (fewer taxes, size of government, regulations, as percentage of economy).Get a higher percentage of our economy being non-government. Government as a percent of GDP is 10% higher than it was in the 90s.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    [/QUOTE]Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

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    Feb 18, 2013 6:52 pm GMT
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing.


    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action.

    So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.


    And making it worse isn't a better course of action..........
    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea. Just like I said every reserve currency in the world is attempting the same thing in terms of currency devaluing. So nothing will get solved by copying that devaluing. [/QUOTE] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE] And making it worse isn't a better course of action..........
  • Level 36
    Radical Ninja
    Posts: 15368
    Feb 18, 2013 6:53 pm GMT

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    "Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    [/QUOTE]Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    [/QUOTE]"Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

  • Level 36
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:55 pm GMT
    Mafiree wrote:
    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Mafiree wrote:


    And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action.

    So it "is" working........
    The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work.


    And making it worse isn't a better course of action..........
    Why would it be worse if our purchasing power went up while simultaneously cutting government and government spending?
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] And by doing so they are increasing their exports relative to no action. So it "is" working........[/QUOTE]The status quo for fixing the economy isn't going to work. [/QUOTE] And making it worse isn't a better course of action..........[/QUOTE]Why would it be worse if our purchasing power went up while simultaneously cutting government and government spending?
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:56 pm GMT

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:
    Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    "Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

     

    If only he walked the talk.

    ----------------------------------------------------------

    KING

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    [/QUOTE]"Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    If only he walked the talk.

  • Level 3
    Mediator
    Posts: 149
    Feb 18, 2013 6:56 pm GMT
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    EmpCom wrote:
    Do you ever do anything but ask ?
    \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.

    I bet i dont


    It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.
    [QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Do you ever do anything but ask ?[/QUOTE] \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.[/QUOTE] I bet i dont[/QUOTE] It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.
  • Level 3
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:57 pm GMT
    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.



    That's because to them there are no benefits in doing so. Are there?
    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

     

    This is absolutely true. 

     

    But we should've had this all the time, not just now because it's competitive.  And it's not about competitiveness as much as success and a blooming economy.

     

    But you are right about less government.

    [/QUOTE]Problem is Obama doesn't understand the concept of less government and less spending. Competition to him means spending or 'investing' taxpayers money into his pet projects.

    So we're in a WOS over the next four years.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    [/QUOTE] That's because to them there are no benefits in doing so. Are there?
  • Level 36
    Radical Ninja
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    Feb 18, 2013 6:57 pm GMT
    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

    KC_Hokie wrote:

    GOGOGOGURT wrote:

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    "Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

     

    If only he walked the talk.

    He did. He reduced the size of government and government spending was low. He reduced taxes such as the capital gains taxes which sparked investment in the economy.
    "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul, can always count on the support of Paul" - George Bernard Shaw
    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

    [QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

    [QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

     

    Actually, no politicians have the balls to make cuts to actually make a difference.  It's going to have to get a lot worse for that to happen.

    [/QUOTE]"Era of big government is over" - President Bill Clinton, 1996

    Wish that guy could take over.

    [/QUOTE]

     

    If only he walked the talk.

    [/QUOTE]He did. He reduced the size of government and government spending was low. He reduced taxes such as the capital gains taxes which sparked investment in the economy.
  • Level 38
    DJ Boy
    Posts: 3233
    Feb 18, 2013 6:59 pm GMT
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.
    I bet i dont
    It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.

    Yeah because anything you do will have any impact on who is or is not elected in the us,

    [QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"] \ There's a reason why I am asking, you will find out how important what I am doing is during these next 3ish years.[/QUOTE] I bet i dont[/QUOTE] It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.[/QUOTE] Yeah because anything you do will have any impact on who is or is not elected in the us,
  • Level 3
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    Feb 18, 2013 7:01 pm GMT
    EmpCom wrote:
    Canon-Gatorade wrote:
    EmpCom wrote:
    I bet i dont
    It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.

    Yeah because anything you do will have any impact on who is or is not elected in the us,


    Yes it could. But since the point is flying right by you, I'll just get back on topic, I am sensing negative vibes.
    [QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="Canon-Gatorade"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] I bet i dont[/QUOTE] It will unless you love Obama and want another one of him running for office.[/QUOTE] Yeah because anything you do will have any impact on who is or is not elected in the us, [/QUOTE] Yes it could. But since the point is flying right by you, I'll just get back on topic, I am sensing negative vibes.
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