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[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="ice144"]seeing this makes me wonder if i was the only one to actually watch eli manning the last two years[/QUOTE] Yeah his 2011 year was a joke, what an overrated ****. 4933 yards, 29 TDs to 16 INTs with three road playoff wins and a Super Bowl ring. Manning is a scrub.[/QUOTE] even with all the yards(in a lockout season i may add) and SB win he was still a fringe top 5 qb in that year, as we see in the previous poll. I see nothing that he has done this year that has led him to be even close to top 5 this year, especially when you look at his stats throughout his entire career(hint: they're depressingly average).

[/QUOTE] Largely because his supporting cast was either hurt(Nicks mostly being a big one). His line has not been good the last few years, his defense was a joke last year, and his running game has been wildly inconsistent largely because for some odd reason they kept Bradshaw way too long. Wilson and Andre Brown should have been getting more carries. Matt Ryan's best year was last year, but his other years were like on paper good numbers, but nothing special. He spent most of his career in a run first offense, with the only the last 2 years(and 2011 he was good, not up to snuff the way he wa this year) being where they are now a pass first team, and they f*cking better be with the two receivers he has. Plus Eli doesn't have the benefit of the dome, plays in a cold area, and has shown playoff success in cold environments.

Matt Ryan on the flip side was solid top 10 in 2011, but wack in the playoffs. This year like a top 5 player, but sadly has to deal with the Falcons playoff stigma. Plus I would agree that he's smarter, more accurate usually, and he's consistent to the point where it's easy to see that he's about to put up some guady numbers over the next few seasons with those 2 studs he has on the outside.

I don't know, I would have liked to seen what Ryan could have done in the redzone if he had not gotten hurt on that sack. I think he had a good chance(even if he is much responsible for the team blowing that lead as much as his defense...hell in both games) to get that game winning score. Plus his first half in both playoff games were really well done.

Call me a homer, I'd take RG3 over those QBs.