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XBOX Founder: If Apple so chooses, they will simply kill MS/Sony/Ninty - UPDATE
- Feb 16, 2013 7:43 am GMTmusicalmac wrote:MBirdy88 wrote:
Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right?
what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games?
Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?Heirren wrote:Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?
You guys are making yourselves look silly.
No, they have been. There was a lot of outrage when iPad4 launched so shortly after the ipad3. Sounds cliche, but Jobs was the essense of apple and this is already fading away.Andross's enemy...is my enemy[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE="Heirren"]Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?[/QUOTE] You guys are making yourselves look silly.[/QUOTE] No, they have been. There was a lot of outrage when iPad4 launched so shortly after the ipad3. Sounds cliche, but Jobs was the essense of apple and this is already fading away.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 16, 2013 7:52 am GMTApple without Steve Jobs has been, historically speaking, sh*t. They are without Steve again, and history is repeating itself.
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- Feb 16, 2013 7:53 am GMT___________________________________________________________________________
Visit The Locker Room for Sports and Sports GamingApple of 5 years ago would absolutely have squashed these 3 and claimed the market. But that "Apple" doesn't live here anymore. Most every complaint lobbed at Microsoft's gaming division can be directed at Apple too.
Costing on momentum...Check.
Lacking strategic vision...Check.
Wasting opportunities...Check.
If someone can explain to me exactly where Apple is heading, I'd appreaciate it because as an analyst who's trained in strategic planning...I surely can't tell. Yes...Apple is printing money today in the same way Microsoft printed it a decade ago.
But let's not pretend that Apple is the same innovator that they have always been. They're not.
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- Feb 16, 2013 7:55 am GMTIn fact, the Pippin, Apples massive first failure to penetrate into the console market, occurred while Steve Jobs was not around. He axed it, among other things, when he returned in 1997.
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- Feb 16, 2013 2:12 pm GMT
[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]
That full atricle is packed with garbage from another Apple zombie that knows nothing about the gaming industry or Apple themselves.
[/QUOTE] No need to go any farther. Apple has already paid out 8 billion dollars to 3rd party developers. I'm not going to take your personal observations very seriously when I have some more significant data to rely on.[/QUOTE]
You got a link to back that up? They spent 8 billion dollars on games and haven nothing to show for it in regards to quality i have even less confidence in them then i did before.
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- Feb 17, 2013 7:24 am GMT
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[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]You got a link to back that up? They spent 8 billion dollars on games and haven nothing to show for it in regards to quality i have even less confidence in them then i did before.
[/QUOTE] Why would I make that up? Seems like a stupid thing to do. After a quick search of the internet... [url=http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57568908-37/apple-has-paid-$8b-to-developers-cook-says/]Apple has Paid $8 billion to Developers, Cook Says[/url]. He probably has a reasonably good idea.
I don't know what you're referring to regarding quality. Anyone who says the App Store is full of freemium garbage or quick flash games is only revealing how much they don't know. Yup.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 17, 2013 7:26 am GMTmusicalmac wrote:MBirdy88 wrote:
Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games?
Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?Heirren wrote:Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?
You guys are making yourselves look silly.
HAve to lower myself to your level, but hey when profit margins is all you have left I hope you have apple stocks... well actually that would be bad.
[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] Yes because app development is such a big commitment compared to full console software development right? :roll: what does it cost to make crap free2play micro theme park and pogo like games compared to full blown games? Anything to make dat apple look better amirite?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE="Heirren"]Apple is going downhill. Updates are too frequent. Buy a console for $500, or more, and have a new one released shortly after?[/QUOTE] You guys are making yourselves look silly.[/QUOTE] HAve to lower myself to your level, but hey when profit margins is all you have left I hope you have apple stocks... well actually that would be bad.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 17, 2013 7:45 am GMT-------------------------------------------------------
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In the name of Lord Enlil, I shall punish you!I'm only reminded of the Apple Pippin. And look where that went.
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- Feb 17, 2013 7:56 am GMT
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Apple couldn't and wouldn't penetrate the console market, they would only succeed in failing. They're better in their current position with handhelds and handsets.
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I'm only reminded of the Apple Pippin. And look where that went.
[/QUOTE]Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).
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- Feb 17, 2013 8:01 am GMT
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We look before and after, and pine for what is not: our sincerest laughter with some pain is fraught; Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought -- Shelley
I don't think that's right. People are aligned with their chosen console. I just don't see that happening.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 17, 2013 8:31 am GMTIt's been well known at least at an industry level that everyone responsible for the Xbox and the success of the 360 are all more or less gone, and Microsoft has completely changed the direction of their Xbox division. Which is why the dashboard and their direction is what it is at the moment. Whelp.
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- Feb 17, 2013 8:32 am GMT
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The Atheism Union || last.fm[QUOTE="marklarmer"]yeah sure if they can make it seem like another must-have fashion accessory.[/QUOTE]- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Feb 17, 2013 8:33 am GMT[QUOTE="-Wicked_Sick-"]I don't think that's right. People are aligned with their chosen console. I just don't see that happening.[/QUOTE]No company is infallible especially in the land of gaming, look at past juggernauts like Atari or Sega.
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- Feb 17, 2013 9:06 am GMT
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"] HAve to lower myself to your level, but hey when profit margins is all you have left I hope you have apple stocks... well actually that would be bad.[/QUOTE] How much do you know about hedge funds? [QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).
[/QUOTE] Apple is indeed a completely different company now. You're also correct in saying Apple can afford just about anything. To quote myself...
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Apple could buy:
- Facebook
- Groupon
- Linkdin
- Netflix
- Pandora
- Blackberry
- Yahoo!
- Yelp
- Zillow
- Zynga
- ...and still have billions in the bank
Or, Apple could just buy the PC industry by purchasing:
- HP
- Dell
- Toshiba
- Sony
- Lenovo
- Asustech
- Acer
- ...aaand still have enough to pick up:
- Nokia
- Blackberry
- ...and still have billions in the bank.
So get used to Apple, my warrior friends, they're going to be around for a while. lol[/QUOTE]
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- Feb 17, 2013 9:49 am GMT
lol nat brown on nbc.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/cnbc/50827051#50827051
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- Feb 17, 2013 9:50 am GMT[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="MBirdy88"] How much do you know about hedge funds? [QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]
Apple is a different monster now, and the market itself is different. Apple wouldn't be incompetent enough to release such a hideous device again without huege financial backing (and they can afford just about anything).
[/QUOTE] Apple is indeed a completely different company now. You're also correct in saying Apple can afford just about anything. To quote myself...
[QUOTE="musicalmac"]Apple could buy:
- Facebook
- Groupon
- Linkdin
- Netflix
- Pandora
- Blackberry
- Yahoo!
- Yelp
- Zillow
- Zynga
- ...and still have billions in the bank
Or, Apple could just buy the PC industry by purchasing:
- HP
- Dell
- Toshiba
- Sony
- Lenovo
- Asustech
- Acer
- ...aaand still have enough to pick up:
- Nokia
- Blackberry
- ...and still have billions in the bank.
So get used to Apple, my warrior friends, they're going to be around for a while. lol[/QUOTE]
Yup.[/QUOTE] And there goes your credibility.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
