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Time "will solve" Wii U quality gap - Satoru Iwata

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  • Level 68
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    Feb 5, 2013 1:53 am GMT

    Call "damage control" all you want, but he's right. The damn thing has only been out for THREE F***ING MONTHS, and yet people are already calling doom on it, asking Ninty to release something in a short amount of time? That's impossible

    It's not like the Vita where we actually gave it time, but how is that doing?

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 1:56 am GMT

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    Call "damage control" all you want, but he's right. The damn thing has only been out for THREE F***ING MONTHS, and yet people are already calling doom on it, asking Ninty to release something in a short amount of time? That's impossible

    It's not like the Vita where we actually gave it time, but how is that doing?

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    Feb 5, 2013 2:05 am GMT

    MirkoS77 wrote:

    Development kits should be in developers' hands a lot longer than a few months.

    Rumors were that there were about 5 revisions of the dev kit since 2011, about the time of the e3 reveal. Wonder what really went wrong though, if developers were really just lazy, if devs just weren't given the proper tools/info, or if publishers really didn't care about Wii-U.

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    [QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

    Development kits should be in developers' hands a lot longer than a few months.

    [/QUOTE]

    Rumors were that there were about 5 revisions of the dev kit since 2011, about the time of the e3 reveal. Wonder what really went wrong though, if developers were really just lazy, if devs just weren't given the proper tools/info, or if publishers really didn't care about Wii-U.

  • Level 44
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:10 am GMT
    look how long it took 3rd party developers to get there head around the Ps3 and learn how to code that properly
    look how long it took 3rd party developers to get there head around the Ps3 and learn how to code that properly
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:43 am GMT

    obvious answer is obvious.

    Everyone should know within time Games will show up and WiiU will have a reason to be purchased.

    Just like the 3DS, it's on it's 2nd year now and look at all the amazing games it has.

    delta3074 wrote:
    look how long it took 3rd party developers to get there head around the Ps3 and learn how to code that properly

    Around 2008 when Metal Gear Solid 4 and Grand Theft Auto 4 launched for the PS3 did it actually start taking off I believe.

    Before that it was just an over glorified Bluray Player.

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 4:44 am GMT

    obvious answer is obvious.

    Everyone should know within time Games will show up and WiiU will have a reason to be purchased.

    Just like the 3DS, it's on it's 2nd year now and look at all the amazing games it has.

    [QUOTE="delta3074"]look how long it took 3rd party developers to get there head around the Ps3 and learn how to code that properly[/QUOTE]

    Around 2008 when Metal Gear Solid 4 and Grand Theft Auto 4 launched for the PS3 did it actually start taking off I believe.

    Before that it was just an over glorified Bluray Player.

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    Feb 5, 2013 4:52 am GMT
    MirkoS77 wrote:
    Peredith wrote:

    StaticOnTV wrote:

    Is that ingame, or photoshopped?

    Damn that looks amazing. I'm onboard if it looks like that while playing. I hope Zelda has that type of detail too. My excitement for Pikmin 3 has just risen considerably.

    thats just promo art.
    The real game looks good, but not as good as that.

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    [QUOTE="MirkoS77"][QUOTE="Peredith"]

    [QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][img]http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17pk0ezlcw7s3jpg/original.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

    Is that ingame, or photoshopped?

    [/QUOTE]Damn that looks amazing. I'm onboard if it looks like that while playing. I hope Zelda has that type of detail too. My excitement for Pikmin 3 has just risen considerably. [/QUOTE] thats just promo art. The real game looks good, but not as good as that.
  • Level 35
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    Feb 5, 2013 4:54 am GMT

    Haziqonfire wrote:
    killzowned24 wrote:
    Haziqonfire wrote:
    I'm surprised you're a big PS3 fan then considering the launch of that console was abysmal. If a console launch determines the success, like you're suggesting, you should be hating it as well.
    PS3 launched with a 40 mulitiplayer game.
    What does that have to do with optimization of hardware (in totality) or graphics?
    what does success have to do with talk about graphics?And the point was that PS3 blew away PS2 on day1!

    and lol at the sheep thinking that is pikman game shot.

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    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 4:58 am GMT Edited 2 total times.

    [QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] I'm surprised you're a big PS3 fan then considering the launch of that console was abysmal. If a console launch determines the success, like you're suggesting, you should be hating it as well.[/QUOTE] PS3 launched with a 40 mulitiplayer game.[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with optimization of hardware (in totality) or graphics? [/QUOTE] what does success have to do with talk about graphics?And the point was that PS3 blew away PS2 on day1!

    and lol at the sheep thinking that is pikman game shot.

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    Feb 5, 2013 5:35 am GMT

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

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    Feb 5, 2013 5:46 am GMT

    AmnesiaHaze wrote:

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

    Iwata is getting hounded by Investors right now.

    If it gets any worse, Iwata would lose his job and Nintendo will probably be forced to bring out a Newer "Better" WiiU to suit better to 3rd Party, making the current WiiU pointless.

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 5:47 am GMT

    [QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

    [/QUOTE]

    Iwata is getting hounded by Investors right now.

    If it gets any worse, Iwata would lose his job and Nintendo will probably be forced to bring out a Newer "Better" WiiU to suit better to 3rd Party, making the current WiiU pointless.

  • Level 68
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    Feb 5, 2013 6:01 am GMT

    LegatoSkyheart wrote:

    AmnesiaHaze wrote:

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

    Iwata is getting hounded by Investors right now.

    If it gets any worse, Iwata would lose his job and Nintendo will probably be forced to bring out a Newer "Better" WiiU to suit better to 3rd Party, making the current WiiU pointless.

    If anything, that would worsen it by... A LOT.

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 6:02 am GMT Edited 2 total times.

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    [QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

    [QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

    i thought hardware quality gap was nintendos "strategy" since the wii,of course this had to lead to a software quality gap when it wasnt able to run hd and most multiplats

    the wii U will probably have a quality gap as well compared to next gen consoles, in terms of software and hardware

    [/QUOTE]

    Iwata is getting hounded by Investors right now.

    If it gets any worse, Iwata would lose his job and Nintendo will probably be forced to bring out a Newer "Better" WiiU to suit better to 3rd Party, making the current WiiU pointless.

    [/QUOTE]If anything, that would worsen it by... A LOT.

  • Level 33
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    Feb 5, 2013 6:37 am GMT
    Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.

    Meanwhile, behind the façade of this innocent looking forum...

    Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.
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    Feb 5, 2013 6:38 am GMT

    Peredith wrote:

    StaticOnTV wrote:
    *Teh Pikmenz*

    Is that ingame, or photoshopped?

    Damn that looks amazing. I'm onboard if it looks like that while playing. I hope Zelda has that type of detail too. My excitement for Pikmin 3 has just risen considerably.

    LOL, the real game doesn't look like that... just simple photo manipulation.

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 6:41 am GMT Edited 2 total times.

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    [QUOTE="Peredith"]

    [QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] *Teh Pikmenz*

    Is that ingame, or photoshopped?

    [/QUOTE]Damn that looks amazing. I'm onboard if it looks like that while playing. I hope Zelda has that type of detail too. My excitement for Pikmin 3 has just risen considerably. [/QUOTE]

    LOL, the real game doesn't look like that... just simple photo manipulation.

  • Level 62
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    Feb 5, 2013 6:39 am GMT

    APiranhaAteMyVa wrote:
    Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.

    No it won't .

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    [QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.[/QUOTE]

    No it won't ;).

  • Level 33
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    Feb 5, 2013 6:41 am GMT
    istreakforfood wrote:

    APiranhaAteMyVa wrote:
    Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.

    No it won't .



    For a year

    Meanwhile, behind the façade of this innocent looking forum...

    [QUOTE="istreakforfood"]

    [QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]Time will solve the quality gap when they release their next console in 5 years time.[/QUOTE]

    No it won't ;).

    [/QUOTE] For a year
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    Feb 5, 2013 7:23 am GMT
    killzowned24 wrote:

    Chozofication wrote:

    killzowned24 wrote:
    My bet is we won't see anything from wiiu that beats the best on PS3 before Orbis comes,if ever.

    Pikmin 3 will beat the best on Ps3 by a lot, and that's due in May.

    not even close.

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    Too bad god of war sucks so much.
    [QUOTE="killzowned24"]

    [QUOTE="Chozofication"]

    [QUOTE="killzowned24"]My bet is we won't see anything from wiiu that beats the best on PS3 before Orbis comes,if ever.[/QUOTE]

    Pikmin 3 will beat the best on Ps3 by a lot, and that's due in May.

    [/QUOTE] not even close.

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    [/QUOTE] Too bad god of war sucks so much.
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    killzowned24 wrote:

    Haziqonfire wrote:
    killzowned24 wrote:
    PS3 launched with a 40 mulitiplayer game.
    What does that have to do with optimization of hardware (in totality) or graphics?
    what does success have to do with talk about graphics?And the point was that PS3 blew away PS2 on day1!

    and lol at the sheep thinking that is pikman game shot.

    original.jpg

    WiiU_Pikmin3_3_scrn11_E3.jpg

     

    too bad.  Just  goes to show the difference graphics can make.

     

    Everything looks so damn juicy delicious in that first pic.

     

    Makes the real thing look so plastic and drab.

    [QUOTE="killzowned24"]

    [QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="killzowned24"] PS3 launched with a 40 mulitiplayer game.[/QUOTE] What does that have to do with optimization of hardware (in totality) or graphics? [/QUOTE] what does success have to do with talk about graphics?And the point was that PS3 blew away PS2 on day1!

    and lol at the sheep thinking that is pikman game shot.

    original.jpg

    WiiU_Pikmin3_3_scrn11_E3.jpg

    [/QUOTE]

     

    too bad.  Just  goes to show the difference graphics can make.

     

    Everything looks so damn juicy delicious in that first pic.

     

    Makes the real thing look so plastic and drab.

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    Audacitron wrote:

     

     

    too bad.  Just  goes to show the difference graphics can make.

     

    Everything looks so damn juicy delicious in that first pic.

     

    Makes the real thing look so plastic and drab.

    That was a screen from the E3 build last year.

    It's actually been looking alot better

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    ibjYsft1Q2vXZ7.png

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    keep in mind these were all taken in the game's photo mode. Normal gameplay has the camera zoomed out more.

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    [QUOTE="Audacitron"]

     

     

    too bad.  Just  goes to show the difference graphics can make.

     

    Everything looks so damn juicy delicious in that first pic.

     

    Makes the real thing look so plastic and drab.

    [/QUOTE]That was a screen from the E3 build last year.

    It's actually been looking alot better

    ibtN6Bb7I7RBL0.png

    ibjYsft1Q2vXZ7.png

    i5Afyg0WvbAbH.png

    keep in mind these were all taken in the game's photo mode. Normal gameplay has the camera zoomed out more.

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    Wii U exclusives coming out

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    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 3:13 pm GMT Edited 4 total times.

    Wii U exclusives coming out

    tumblr_mh3ekpzIMT1r72ht7o1_500.gifbayonetta2.jpgtumblr_mdpuuf7nLs1rpxn9po1_500.pngpikmin-3-wii-u_140100_post.jpg32200.jpgtumblr_mh36x3cTfm1rk5vz5o1_500.gifRayman-Legends-dragon-attack-Image-e1339Legend-of-Zelda-Wind-Waker-HD-2-500x281.lego_city_undercover_promo_art_2.jpgtumblr_mhgiwkBDYw1rl04amo1_500.jpg

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    Those 2005 graphics sure do look average.  Ohhh wait, it's 2013.........

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    Those 2005 graphics sure do look average.  Ohhh wait, it's 2013.........

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    Pikmin creatures sure looks detailed and cute but what is up with ground textures?????? Not better than pikmin 1&2 on GC and this is being released in 2013... Makes no sense to play with ants and have no grass but flat geometry with couple of leafs here and there.

    Edited on Feb 5, 2013 3:20 pm GMT

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    Pikmin creatures sure looks detailed and cute but what is up with ground textures?????? Not better than pikmin 1&2 on GC and this is being released in 2013... Makes no sense to play with ants and have no grass but flat geometry with couple of leafs here and there.

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    nintendoboy16 wrote:

    Call "damage control" all you want, but he's right. The damn thing has only been out for THREE F***ING MONTHS, and yet people are already calling doom on it, asking Ninty to release something in a short amount of time? That's impossible

    It's not like the Vita where we actually gave it time, but how is that doing?




    lol such a fanboy

    [QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

    Call "damage control" all you want, but he's right. The damn thing has only been out for THREE F***ING MONTHS, and yet people are already calling doom on it, asking Ninty to release something in a short amount of time? That's impossible

    It's not like the Vita where we actually gave it time, but how is that doing?

    [/QUOTE] lol such a fanboy
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