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  • Level 42
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:31 pm GMT
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    DarkLink77 wrote:
    No, I'm claiming they sacrificed the franchises' identity in the multiplayer by making changes the fanbase is against while moving the single-player backwards. That's what I'm saying.
    That is just another way of saying they did make changes but just not the ones you wanted. I think 343 did a great job overall not perfect but still great but clearly you do not. Do not say they should have had their own take though when you keep saying they did make changes but just ones you did not like. You sound like you just want to hate on Halo 4 or 343 without a real reason why so at least say listen they made these changes and I do not like them . I do not know maybe you were never a big Halo fan or maybe it just does not interest you anymore but saying they should have made changes because of the changes they made I do not like does not make any sense.

     

    Didn't 343 admit they did a subpar job? Game only sold by name.


    No, it was actually the best Halo ever. They did a phenominal job.

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    [QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No, I'm claiming they sacrificed the franchises' identity in the multiplayer by making changes the fanbase is against while moving the single-player backwards. That's what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]That is just another way of saying they did make changes but just not the ones you wanted. I think 343 did a great job overall not perfect but still great but clearly you do not. Do not say they should have had their own take though when you keep saying they did make changes but just ones you did not like. You sound like you just want to hate on Halo 4 or 343 without a real reason why so at least say listen they made these changes and I do not like them . I do not know maybe you were never a big Halo fan or maybe it just does not interest you anymore but saying they should have made changes because of the changes they made I do not like does not make any sense.[/QUOTE]

     

    Didn't 343 admit they did a subpar job? Game only sold by name.

    [/QUOTE] No, it was actually the best Halo ever. They did a phenominal job.
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:33 pm GMT

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

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    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.[/QUOTE]

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    [/QUOTE]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:35 pm GMT

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.
    I just found the link http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

     

    Edit* they didn't say it was Subpar just that they have a lot to learn and they could do better next time.

    Edited on Feb 1, 2013 1:37 pm GMT

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    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.[/QUOTE]

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    [/QUOTE]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]I just found the link [url=http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200]http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200[/url]

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

     

    Edit* they didn't say it was Subpar just that they have a lot to learn and they could do better next time.

  • Level 41
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:37 pm GMT
    mysticstryk wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.
    [QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    [/QUOTE]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    [/QUOTE]Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:37 pm GMT

    Sounds good, bro.

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    Sounds good, bro.

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:38 pm GMT
    Nintendo_Ownes7 wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.
    I just found the link http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game?
    [QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    [/QUOTE]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]I just found the link [url=http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200]http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200[/url]

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    [/QUOTE]So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game?
  • Level 65
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:39 pm GMT
    • Built in Kinect
    • More marketing $
    • People will go from 360 --> 720 for XBL alone
    • They're making not losing money this time

    Saying that, Sony would outsell them in a same price/same launch time scenario. PS is still a bigger name than Xbox.

    • Built in Kinect
    • More marketing $
    • People will go from 360 --> 720 for XBL alone
    • They're making not losing money this time

    Saying that, Sony would outsell them in a same price/same launch time scenario. PS is still a bigger name than Xbox.

  • Level 22
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:40 pm GMT

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    mysticstryk wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.

    And you called me a liar. Doesn't seem like they believed they did a great job.

    Let It Die

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    [/QUOTE]Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.[/QUOTE]

    And you called me a liar. Doesn't seem like they believed they did a great job.

  • Level 14
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:40 pm GMT

    Eddie-Vedder wrote:

    For gamers they've won, but lems would rather have worse graphics, unreliable hardware, pay to play online have no games and get ripped off all gen long as long as M$ makes money.

     

    I mean let's be realistic here, Sony has the multiplats, they get the oddball big budget third party exclusive more often the M$ and they have an insane amount of amazingly talented first/second party devs that share resources and makes amazing games.

     

    It's so one sided.

    LOL

     

    PS3 multiplats are often bug-ridden.


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    [QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

    For gamers they've won, but lems would rather have worse graphics, unreliable hardware, pay to play online have no games and get ripped off all gen long as long as M$ makes money.

     

    I mean let's be realistic here, Sony has the multiplats, they get the oddball big budget third party exclusive more often the M$ and they have an insane amount of amazingly talented first/second party devs that share resources and makes amazing games.

     

    It's so one sided.

    [/QUOTE]

    LOL

     

    PS3 multiplats are often bug-ridden.

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:41 pm GMT

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    Nintendo_Ownes7 wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.
    I just found the link http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game?
    I edited my post after I posted that. The TC took this article out of context.

    Edited on Feb 1, 2013 1:42 pm GMT

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    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE]I just found the link [url=http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200]http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200[/url]

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    [/QUOTE]So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game? [/QUOTE]I edited my post after I posted that. The TC took this article out of context.

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:42 pm GMT

    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    Playstation is trending up, M$ is trending down....

     


    [QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    Playstation is trending up, M$ is trending down....

    [/QUOTE]

     

    :lol:

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:43 pm GMT
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    mysticstryk wrote:

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.

    And you called me a liar. Doesn't seem like they believed they did a great job.

    There is a difference from wishing to have the time to make some changes to thinking the game is bad.
    [QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

     

    They did say that they wish they did a couple things differently, but they didn't say that it was a subpar job.  Being a long time Halo fan myself, I thought Halo 4 was a great step in the right direction, as did many other Halo fans I know.  Your always going to have people complaining whenever you change up the formula a bit.  Thats probably why cod doesn't change, because even more people would complain then.

    [/QUOTE]Well I could understand wanting to do certain things different. There is not a developer that has never thought that. They always wish they had more time for this or that or more time to play test this thing.[/QUOTE]

    And you called me a liar. Doesn't seem like they believed they did a great job.

    [/QUOTE]There is a difference from wishing to have the time to make some changes to thinking the game is bad.
  • Level 48
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    Feb 1, 2013 1:43 pm GMT
    MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.
    MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.
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    GunSmith1_basic wrote:
    MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.

    You meant WAS significant. They are not getting a head start this time.

    Let It Die

    [QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.[/QUOTE]

    You meant WAS significant. They are not getting a head start this time.

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    Feb 1, 2013 1:45 pm GMT
    Nintendo_Ownes7 wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    Nintendo_Ownes7 wrote:
    I just found the link http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game?
    I edited my post after I posted that. The TC took this article out of context.

    It is one of those things where there is almost literally no development company that does not think there are areas of improvement.
    [QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]I just found the link [url=http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200]http://www.gamespot.com/news/343-next-halo-will-be-much-better-6402200[/url]

    Franchise director Frank O'Connor says 343 Industries "made a lot of mistakes" with Halo 4, but overall the game "wasn't half bad."

    "We have a lot to learn. We made a lot of mistakes. We can do better," Halo franchise director Frank O'Connor said in a retrospective blog post. "And we know this, and we will."

    [/QUOTE]So how does that mean they thought they did a subpar game? [/QUOTE]I edited my post after I posted that. The TC took this article out of context.

    [/QUOTE]It is one of those things where there is almost literally no development company that does not think there are areas of improvement.
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    GunSmith1_basic wrote:
    MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.

    That headstart is looking more like a bluff from sony now.

    It really sounds like sony studied up the issues the ps3 suffered, and is not making the same mistakes this time. Namely the fact that according to developers the ps4 is easy to make games on now.

    Edited on Feb 1, 2013 1:46 pm GMT

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    [QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]MS's year head start is significant. It basically means that every company will put their third party games on the MS system, but not necessarily on the ps4. At least in the short term.[/QUOTE]

    That headstart is looking more like a bluff from sony now.

    It really sounds like sony studied up the issues the ps3 suffered, and is not making the same mistakes this time. Namely the fact that according to developers the ps4 is easy to make games on now.

  • Level 44
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    Feb 1, 2013 2:02 pm GMT
    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    StrongBlackVine wrote:

    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.


    They actually did say that. It was an article on GameSpot recently, actually.
    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Not that I have heard of. Do you have a link? I doubt I will get one though.[/QUOTE]

    No because why would I keep a link to that? They did say there were a lot of things the could have done better.....

    [/QUOTE]So typical cow trying to spread lies. Ok gotcha.[/QUOTE] They actually did say that. It was an article on GameSpot recently, actually.
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    Feb 1, 2013 2:05 pm GMT
    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    DarkLink77 wrote:
    CanYouDiglt wrote:
    So you are saying they did make it unique in areas but just not what YOU WANTED even though before you are claiming they did not have their own take? Ok I get it.


    No, I'm claiming they sacrificed the franchises' identity in the multiplayer by making changes the fanbase is against while moving the single-player backwards. That's what I'm saying.
    That is just another way of saying they did make changes but just not the ones you wanted. I think 343 did a great job overall not perfect but still great but clearly you do not. Do not say they should have had their own take though when you keep saying they did make changes but just ones you did not like. You sound like you just want to hate on Halo 4 or 343 without a real reason why so at least say listen they made these changes and I do not like them . I do not know maybe you were never a big Halo fan or maybe it just does not interest you anymore but saying they should have made changes because of the changes they made I do not like does not make any sense.


    They only changes they made were to the multiplayer, which have not been well-received by the community at large.

    However, they were still making a game that was very much in the vein of what Bungie established. They had the opportunity to really take the franchise in some exciting new directions and they blew it. Instead, they decided to make changes in some areas and toe the line in others. They should have been more adventurous while being respectful of the series legacy. They were not.
    [QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So you are saying they did make it unique in areas but just not what YOU WANTED even though before you are claiming they did not have their own take? Ok I get it.[/QUOTE] No, I'm claiming they sacrificed the franchises' identity in the multiplayer by making changes the fanbase is against while moving the single-player backwards. That's what I'm saying.[/QUOTE]That is just another way of saying they did make changes but just not the ones you wanted. I think 343 did a great job overall not perfect but still great but clearly you do not. Do not say they should have had their own take though when you keep saying they did make changes but just ones you did not like. You sound like you just want to hate on Halo 4 or 343 without a real reason why so at least say listen they made these changes and I do not like them . I do not know maybe you were never a big Halo fan or maybe it just does not interest you anymore but saying they should have made changes because of the changes they made I do not like does not make any sense.[/QUOTE] They only changes they made were to the multiplayer, which have not been well-received by the community at large. However, they were still making a game that was very much in the vein of what Bungie established. They had the opportunity to really take the franchise in some exciting new directions and they blew it. Instead, they decided to make changes in some areas and toe the line in others. They should have been more adventurous while being respectful of the series legacy. They were not.
  • Level 42
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    Feb 1, 2013 2:27 pm GMT
    I see a lot of lems are in denial already.
    I see a lot of lems are in denial already.
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    Feb 1, 2013 2:44 pm GMT

    RR360DD wrote:

    Did anyone expect the Wii to win this gen?

    /thread

    No one can say who will win between Sony and MS with the PS4 and the 3rd Xbox. I can guarantee the Wii U will not win, because it is out and it isn't selling and people aren't interested in it. I suspect Wii U will be dead last by a long way. And PS4 and the 3rd Xbox will be much closer, because Xbox will outsell in America as it has with the 360 and the PS4 will outsell everywhere else. The reason I think this will be the case is because the specs for the PS4 and 3rd Xbox seem to be nearly the same. So it will come down to preference, price, and what other things each offer that will determine which system you want to own. The exclusives will remain the same with MS not getting any more to jump over to their system. Maybe a few is all? But there will be game devs that make only for each system that pop up like happened with PS3 and 360. I suspect each system will be priced nearly identically considering the rumored specs for each. So you will pay to play online with the 3rd Xbox, so Sony could keep a free online service and that would help them sell their system a little more. I really think there will be less of a difference with PS4 and the 3rd Xbox than there is between the PS3 and 360. They are a lot different. 

    [QUOTE="RR360DD"]

    Did anyone expect the Wii to win this gen?

    /thread

    [/QUOTE]

    No one can say who will win between Sony and MS with the PS4 and the 3rd Xbox. I can guarantee the Wii U will not win, because it is out and it isn't selling and people aren't interested in it. I suspect Wii U will be dead last by a long way. And PS4 and the 3rd Xbox will be much closer, because Xbox will outsell in America as it has with the 360 and the PS4 will outsell everywhere else. The reason I think this will be the case is because the specs for the PS4 and 3rd Xbox seem to be nearly the same. So it will come down to preference, price, and what other things each offer that will determine which system you want to own. The exclusives will remain the same with MS not getting any more to jump over to their system. Maybe a few is all? But there will be game devs that make only for each system that pop up like happened with PS3 and 360. I suspect each system will be priced nearly identically considering the rumored specs for each. So you will pay to play online with the 3rd Xbox, so Sony could keep a free online service and that would help them sell their system a little more. I really think there will be less of a difference with PS4 and the 3rd Xbox than there is between the PS3 and 360. They are a lot different. 

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