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Do we still need religion?
- Jan 30, 2013 9:10 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] And yet nowhere in his post did he mention that. He misspoke...nice of you to rush to his defense I guess.[/QUOTE]
My intention was not to rush to his defense (I don't know why it's even neccessary to go there TBH). What I am saying is that there are certain types of education in which one is encouraged to make up one's mind and there are other types of education in which adherence to facts/observable reality is encouraged. Science, while not set in stone, falls more in line with the latter.
[/QUOTE] I'm aware...but he didn't say that.[/QUOTE]
He didn't say those exact words, but the only kind of education he mentioned was science. If you agree that science is largely based on adherence to facts/observable reality rather than making up one's mind, I don't see what you two are disagreeing about.
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- Jan 30, 2013 9:14 pm GMT
No longer necessary, probably not necessary to begin with at all.
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- Jan 30, 2013 9:23 pm GMT
I don't care. I just wish people would stop trying to hold back scientific progress because of religious morals.
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- Jan 30, 2013 9:29 pm GMT[QUOTE="MetalDogGear"]I mean, if I believed in a God that didn't help me get out of my situation, I'd be pretty disappointed.[/QUOTE] you wouldnt be disappointed youd be dead even if the last second you're alive you're saying 'now i get to go to heaven' its not like you have the chance to realise it never happened you're fvcking dead
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- Jan 30, 2013 9:36 pm GMT
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:07 pm GMT
"The freedom of "the people" is not my freedom!" Max Stirner
An individual may need religion, but society certainly doesn't need the power structures that grow out of religious beliefs.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 30, 2013 10:09 pm GMT[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]An individual may need religion, but society certainly doesn't need the power structures that grow out of religious beliefs.[/QUOTE] You know, I think Leo Tolstoy is cool and all, but his Christian anarchist philosophy made no sense whatsoever. You need to tear out some pages out of the Bible in order to believe that it's anti-statist.
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:13 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]An individual may need religion, but society certainly doesn't need the power structures that grow out of religious beliefs.[/QUOTE]
I think this is a good answer.
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:14 pm GMT
I think we do, if we have our own belief, we can ask us to do better in life.
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:20 pm GMTinb4uall wrote:Don't put that sh!t here everyone knows the real world doesn't count in SW.
No, not really. What we need is for everyone to have a better understanding of why life is so marvelous and special, and the big three monotheistic religions have failed to do anything remotely close to that. I am incllined to believe that this is not only because of their "organized" institutions, but because they are simply broken. You can twist them and pick and choose as much as you want but, at their core, they are still pretty much broken. They seem to gravitate around concepts like sin and the afterlife, which seem to be exceptionally effective at removing love and kindness from a person's heart and replacing them with fear and hatred.
I don't know much about Buddhism but, according to Nietzsche, it seems to revolve around the idea of one's own spiritual hygiene and tends to concern itself very, very little with deities and whatnot, making it almost atheistic at its core. If that's the case, that sounds a lot better to me. Then again, some of you may know more about Buddhism than me and will surely correct me if I'm wrong.
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:22 pm GMT
no, not really.
We'll probably be better off without it.
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- Jan 30, 2013 10:57 pm GMT
"The freedom of "the people" is not my freedom!" Max Stirner
[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"][QUOTE="Rhazakna"]An individual may need religion, but society certainly doesn't need the power structures that grow out of religious beliefs.[/QUOTE] You know, I think Leo Tolstoy is cool and all, but his Christian anarchist philosophy made no sense whatsoever. You need to tear out some pages out of the Bible in order to believe that it's anti-statist.[/QUOTE] To get any consistent message from the bible you need to ignore large chunks of it. I agree that Christian Anarchism isn't very thorough biblically, but the world would be a much better place if more Christians took after Tolstoy as opposed to the Pope or some other religious authority.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 30, 2013 11:37 pm GMT
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- Jan 31, 2013 12:31 am GMT
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Do we still need religion?
I don't know. Do you still beat your wife?
That's a loaded question. It was never needed.
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- Jan 31, 2013 1:20 am GMT
Religion is still needed by people who have no internal moral compass and need a set of instructions to live.
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- Jan 31, 2013 1:59 am GMT
[QUOTE="tenaka2"]Religion is still needed by people who have no internal moral compass and need a set of instructions to live.
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- Jan 31, 2013 2:14 am GMT
*shrug* I haven't needed it for almost 27 years. But if others find value in it, fair enough.
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- Jan 31, 2013 2:15 am GMT
yes, there are still too many uneducated people that needs to be controlled.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 31, 2013 2:17 am GMT
[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]
Religion is still needed by people who have no internal moral compass and need a set of instructions to live.
[/QUOTE] Its not really morality if its out of fear of punishment or reward. [/QUOTE]
I said a set of instructions for people without morality, my statement represents a dearth of morality.
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- Jan 31, 2013 2:31 am GMT
Humanity will eventually move past religion one day, so I'd say no humanity doesn't need religion. It'll probably never completely go away, but I cant see it being around like it is today in a few hundred years from now. Jesus/Allah will eventually be looked at the same way we look at Zeus, all just mythology right where it belongs.
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