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Crysis 3 whats the graphical difference?

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    Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.

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    Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.
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    trastamad03 wrote:
    Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.

    ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780.


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    [QUOTE="trastamad03"]Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.[/QUOTE] ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780. :P
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    Elann2008 wrote:
    trastamad03 wrote:
    Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.

    ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780.


    Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
    [QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="trastamad03"]Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.[/QUOTE] ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780. :P[/QUOTE] Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
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    darksusperia wrote:
    Elann2008 wrote:
    trastamad03 wrote:
    Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.
    ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780.
    Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
    Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    Edited on Jan 31, 2013 5:28 pm GMT


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    [QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="Elann2008"][QUOTE="trastamad03"]Only way to achieve 60fps was by setting the game to LOW and 1920x1080 (native is 2560x1440)... I'll just pass on this for now.[/QUOTE] ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780. :P[/QUOTE] Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.[/QUOTE] Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

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    Elann2008 wrote:

    darksusperia wrote:
    Elann2008 wrote:
    ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780.
    Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
    Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    if a single 780 doesnt max it then expect cries of poor optimization/console port lol.

    End of february was the apparent eta.. 4 weeks and hopefully we'll know the definitive answer.

    Edited on Jan 31, 2013 5:32 pm GMT

    [QUOTE="Elann2008"]

    [QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780. :P[/QUOTE] Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.[/QUOTE] Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    [/QUOTE] if a single 780 doesnt max it then expect cries of poor optimization/console port lol.

    End of february was the apparent eta.. 4 weeks and hopefully we'll know the definitive answer.

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    Anyone tried starting this game in -devmode and playing it in Third person?

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    Anyone tried starting this game in -devmode and playing it in Third person?

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    Man these recent comments make me want to go SLI again.

    Man these recent comments make me want to go SLI again.

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    Elann2008 wrote:

    darksusperia wrote:
    Elann2008 wrote:
    ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780.
    Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
    Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

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    [QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="Elann2008"] ouch! But I hear the game still looks great on low. I'm too lazy to do comparison shots on my own though. It's alright Trastamad. I won't be picking up Crysis 3 until I have a GTX 770/780. :P[/QUOTE] Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.[/QUOTE] Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    [/QUOTE]

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

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    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    Elann2008 wrote:

    darksusperia wrote:
    Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.
    Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

    Yeah I know i was joking. I expect with proper drivers after release, a 680 should max it, or an OC'ed 670 at 1080p. It might take a few drivers to get it right though. My friend with a 680 isn't too pleased with the beta performance. Yes, I know i know.., it's a friggin beta but still.

    But then again, a GTX 580 still can't max Crysis 2.  When I mean max, I mean max with 4xAA.  So I don't know... I might just take that statement back.  And comparing DICE to Crytek.  I wouldn't go that far.  DICE is better at optimizing their games.  Plus, 64 players on a huge map.  DICE is simply good.  Two different games, two different developers.

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    [QUOTE="Elann2008"]

    [QUOTE="darksusperia"] Im thinking the same haha. especially if that other thread is true with the 780 being double the 680 performance and even beating the 690/ares cards... BEAST. Worth the price of admission there.[/QUOTE] Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    [/QUOTE]

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah I know i was joking. I expect with proper drivers after release, a 680 should max it, or an OC'ed 670 at 1080p. It might take a few drivers to get it right though. My friend with a 680 isn't too pleased with the beta performance. Yes, I know i know.., it's a friggin beta but still.

    But then again, a GTX 580 still can't max Crysis 2.  When I mean max, I mean max with 4xAA.  So I don't know... I might just take that statement back.  And comparing DICE to Crytek.  I wouldn't go that far.  DICE is better at optimizing their games.  Plus, 64 players on a huge map.  DICE is simply good.  Two different games, two different developers.

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    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    jun_aka_pekto wrote:

    Are the gun sounds better than the wimpy ones in Crysis 2? I mean the sounds should at least be KZ3-good. I heard those in BF3 sound great as well. But, I don't have that one.

    They're the same. Most guns are the same anyway so the gun sounds haven't changed at all. LIkely the exact same raw files. It was one of the problems I had when it was shown at E3. But there are plenty of new guns that have good sounds, like the new alien weapons. I hate the sound of the Bow though, it sounds way overdone

    And yes BF3's gun sounds are the best in the business, nothing comes close to the audio in BF3. Mainly because they were real gun sounds that were captured and not exaggerated as much as some games

    Aw, crock. Crytek needs to take some lessons from DICE or Guerilla Games and learn a thing or two about gun sounds. Oh well, I'll wait and see when the real game comes along.

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    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    [QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

    Are the gun sounds better than the wimpy ones in Crysis 2? I mean the sounds should at least be KZ3-good. I heard those in BF3 sound great as well. But, I don't have that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    They're the same. Most guns are the same anyway so the gun sounds haven't changed at all. LIkely the exact same raw files. It was one of the problems I had when it was shown at E3. But there are plenty of new guns that have good sounds, like the new alien weapons. I hate the sound of the Bow though, it sounds way overdone

    And yes BF3's gun sounds are the best in the business, nothing comes close to the audio in BF3. Mainly because they were real gun sounds that were captured and not exaggerated as much as some games

    [/QUOTE]

    Aw, crock. Crytek needs to take some lessons from DICE or Guerilla Games and learn a thing or two about gun sounds. Oh well, I'll wait and see when the real game comes along.

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    Elann2008 wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    Elann2008 wrote:
    Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

    Yeah I know i was joking. I expect with proper drivers after release, a 680 should max it, or an OC'ed 670 at 1080p. It might take a few drivers to get it right though. My friend with a 680 isn't too pleased with the beta performance. Yes, I know i know.., it's a friggin beta but still.

    But then again, a GTX 580 still can't max Crysis 2.  When I mean max, I mean max with 4xAA.  So I don't know... I might just take that statement back.  And comparing DICE to Crytek.  I wouldn't go that far.  DICE is better at optimizing their games.  Plus, 64 players on a huge map.  DICE is simply good.  Two different games, two different developers.

    Crysis 2 is horribly optimised, it was running in pieces on an engine they hadn't finished and had a terribly poor implementation of Dx11 admitted by Crytek themselves. I have no doubt this game will run far better. I mean Crysis 2 had tesselation on everything and it was a hog on performance at times (such as the water under the levels that was tesselated but not seen) but this time they don't even tesselate many objects like trees yet the result is better than tesselation, they did all new models for stuff like that. And did new methods for shadows and lights. It might be a bit more pre-baked than Crysis 2 was, but if the result is good i'll be happy

    And yeah they're very different, I was just using examples. Things can change dramatically between SP and MP and Beta and final release. 

    In the end who the hell knows Excited to find out though

    [QUOTE="Elann2008"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    [QUOTE="Elann2008"] Lol yup. Now, if a 780 Titan doesn't max out Crysis 3.. oh my golly.. mother of Zeus!

    [/QUOTE]

    lol I thin you're overreacting there a bit. I can max the game now (with FXAA though) and easily stay above 50 fps on my 670. And that's beta in multiplayer. If BF3 and Crysis 2 are any indication it's that the Single Player will be more stable and run better. 

    I don't think it's gonna be as hard as everyone thinks to max it out. Similar stuff was said about BF3 before that launched and it was a piece of cake to run. That and proper drivers haven't released for it to further boost the performance

    [/QUOTE]

    Yeah I know i was joking. I expect with proper drivers after release, a 680 should max it, or an OC'ed 670 at 1080p. It might take a few drivers to get it right though. My friend with a 680 isn't too pleased with the beta performance. Yes, I know i know.., it's a friggin beta but still.

    But then again, a GTX 580 still can't max Crysis 2.  When I mean max, I mean max with 4xAA.  So I don't know... I might just take that statement back.  And comparing DICE to Crytek.  I wouldn't go that far.  DICE is better at optimizing their games.  Plus, 64 players on a huge map.  DICE is simply good.  Two different games, two different developers.

    [/QUOTE]

    Crysis 2 is horribly optimised, it was running in pieces on an engine they hadn't finished and had a terribly poor implementation of Dx11 admitted by Crytek themselves. I have no doubt this game will run far better. I mean Crysis 2 had tesselation on everything and it was a hog on performance at times (such as the water under the levels that was tesselated but not seen) but this time they don't even tesselate many objects like trees yet the result is better than tesselation, they did all new models for stuff like that. And did new methods for shadows and lights. It might be a bit more pre-baked than Crysis 2 was, but if the result is good i'll be happy

    And yeah they're very different, I was just using examples. Things can change dramatically between SP and MP and Beta and final release. 

    In the end who the hell knows :P Excited to find out though

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    jun_aka_pekto wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:

    jun_aka_pekto wrote:

    Are the gun sounds better than the wimpy ones in Crysis 2? I mean the sounds should at least be KZ3-good. I heard those in BF3 sound great as well. But, I don't have that one.

    They're the same. Most guns are the same anyway so the gun sounds haven't changed at all. LIkely the exact same raw files. It was one of the problems I had when it was shown at E3. But there are plenty of new guns that have good sounds, like the new alien weapons. I hate the sound of the Bow though, it sounds way overdone

    And yes BF3's gun sounds are the best in the business, nothing comes close to the audio in BF3. Mainly because they were real gun sounds that were captured and not exaggerated as much as some games

    Aw, crock. Crytek needs to take some lessons from DICE or Guerilla Games and learn a thing or two about gun sounds. Oh well, I'll wait and see when the real game comes along.

    The guns still sound decent but yeah DICE do it better. Having said that the nanosuit is where the auiod shines, listening to the deep bass when you go into cloak or armor mode is great and hearing the heavy clunking footsteps as you run around. So far DICE are the only ones that do pitch perfect sounds that are really clean at the same time. But that's realism as opposed to hollywood sounds, which is what Crytek are aiming for. Real guns clack rather than boom 

    [QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

    [QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

    Are the gun sounds better than the wimpy ones in Crysis 2? I mean the sounds should at least be KZ3-good. I heard those in BF3 sound great as well. But, I don't have that one.

    [/QUOTE]

    They're the same. Most guns are the same anyway so the gun sounds haven't changed at all. LIkely the exact same raw files. It was one of the problems I had when it was shown at E3. But there are plenty of new guns that have good sounds, like the new alien weapons. I hate the sound of the Bow though, it sounds way overdone

    And yes BF3's gun sounds are the best in the business, nothing comes close to the audio in BF3. Mainly because they were real gun sounds that were captured and not exaggerated as much as some games

    [/QUOTE]

    Aw, crock. Crytek needs to take some lessons from DICE or Guerilla Games and learn a thing or two about gun sounds. Oh well, I'll wait and see when the real game comes along.

    [/QUOTE]

    The guns still sound decent but yeah DICE do it better. Having said that the nanosuit is where the auiod shines, listening to the deep bass when you go into cloak or armor mode is great and hearing the heavy clunking footsteps as you run around. So far DICE are the only ones that do pitch perfect sounds that are really clean at the same time. But that's realism as opposed to hollywood sounds, which is what Crytek are aiming for. Real guns clack rather than boom 

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    seanmcloughlin wrote:
    Crysis 2 is horribly optimised,
    Bullsh*t. It's currently the best looking game out (until Crysis 3 probably) and yet I can run the game on ultra with over 50 FPS. Yes the optimization could be better, but horrible? No way.

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    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Crysis 2 is horribly optimised,[/QUOTE] Bullsh*t. It's currently the best looking game out (until Crysis 3 probably) and yet I can run the game on ultra with over 50 FPS. Yes the optimization could be better, but horrible? No way.

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    Toxic-Seahorse wrote:

    seanmcloughlin wrote:
    Crysis 2 is horribly optimised,
    Bullsh*t. It's currently the best looking game out (until Crysis 3 probably) and yet I can run the game on ultra with over 50 FPS. Yes the optimization could be better, but horrible? No way.

    Take the scar and empty the clip into the ground infront of you. Watch as your fps just drain away no matter what your computer is, because of the really poor implementation of particle shadowing. Crysis 2 has major optimization problems with some of the DX11 effects. 

    Edited on Jan 31, 2013 6:35 pm GMT

    [QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

    [QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Crysis 2 is horribly optimised,[/QUOTE] Bullsh*t. It's currently the best looking game out (until Crysis 3 probably) and yet I can run the game on ultra with over 50 FPS. Yes the optimization could be better, but horrible? No way.

    [/QUOTE] Take the scar and empty the clip into the ground infront of you. Watch as your fps just drain away no matter what your computer is, because of the really poor implementation of particle shadowing. Crysis 2 has major optimization problems with some of the DX11 effects. 

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    Should 2x SLI'd 670's be able to max it at 2560x1440? With stable fps?

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    Should 2x SLI'd 670's be able to max it at 2560x1440? With stable fps?
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    kris9031998 wrote:
    Should 2x SLI'd 670's be able to max it at 2560x1440? With stable fps?
    It definitely would. But I'll check on that later hopefully.

    [QUOTE="kris9031998"]Should 2x SLI'd 670's be able to max it at 2560x1440? With stable fps?[/QUOTE] It definitely would. But I'll check on that later hopefully.

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    The Beta put my 5 year old rig to shame....ON LOW.

    Where are all the hater comments saying "Crysis 3 is a console port..."?

    Hmmm, funny....they disappeared...

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    I wonder if Crytek is right about it melting PCs after all.

    I wonder if Crytek is right about it melting PCs after all.

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    mitu123 wrote:

    I wonder if Crytek is right about it melting PCs after all.



    possibly. we'll see soon enough whether its true or just hype I guess.
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    I wonder if Crytek is right about it melting PCs after all.

    [/QUOTE] possibly. we'll see soon enough whether its true or just hype I guess.
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