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The Main Reason why Tomb Raider is not going on WiiU.
- Jan 27, 2013 2:51 pm GMTOhSnapitz wrote:It's not just that *insert platform* has exclusives/multiplats.. It's that *insert platform* has potential... And I don't see it with the Wii-U. If those games you mentioned were coming out for the Wii-U.. I (and others) would consider the platform simply because GTA 6, Resident Evil 7, and Tomb Raider "Reboot" II would be sure bet. As it stands I can't see companies all of a sudden jumping aboard with the PS4/720 looming. Ninty better pray M$/Sony has some sort of touch screen controllers.SuperFlakeman wrote:OhSnapitz wrote:Great point.. and this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why I'm not sold on the WiiU. 3rd party devs are going out of their way to not make games for Ninty's new platform. So what exactly will the future hold once the 720/PS4 are released?
Would you have gotten WiiU version of GTA V, Tomb Raider, etc. even if it did get perfect ports?
Nope. PS3 or 360 is your ecosystem of achievements, friends, etc. It's Steam in my case. It's nice that WiiU gets all kinds of indie games like The Cave... but I will get it for Steam instead, I don't do "gotta support X platform"
You buy a WiiU for its exclusives. When depends on its value in your eyes. For instance I got a PS3 Slim for $300 "just" for MGS4, that was my value limit. I got a WiiU day 1 cus of Nintendo Land, now it's sitting there collecting dust until the next wave of exclusives.
Ok, but why? Would you seriously consider getting the WiiU version of their sequels, when factoring in such things as Nintendo's online, no achievement system, all your friends are on another place, Xbox always having the best version. Not to mention hardware power.
Why is the multiplatform state of WiiU even a consideration for you? I don't get it.
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, F-Zero, Smash; they are all safe bets regardless, and this is the only thing that should be on your mind.
I.e. do I want 3D Mario badly, is is worth putting down $300 for the system just for this game? Hmm, do I like Smash/Zelda etc. enough to care? Does that (magnificent) Project X trailer excite me? These are the kinds of questions relevant for WiiU, not whether Lara Croft will make a visit.
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"] Great point.. and this, Ladies and Gentlemen, is why I'm not sold on the WiiU. 3rd party devs are going out of their way to not make games for Ninty's new platform. So what exactly will the future hold once the 720/PS4 are released? :|[/QUOTE]
Would you have gotten WiiU version of GTA V, Tomb Raider, etc. even if it did get perfect ports?
Nope. PS3 or 360 is your ecosystem of achievements, friends, etc. It's Steam in my case. It's nice that WiiU gets all kinds of indie games like The Cave... but I will get it for Steam instead, I don't do "gotta support X platform"
You buy a WiiU for its exclusives. When depends on its value in your eyes. For instance I got a PS3 Slim for $300 "just" for MGS4, that was my value limit. I got a WiiU day 1 cus of Nintendo Land, now it's sitting there collecting dust until the next wave of exclusives.
[/QUOTE] It's not just that *insert platform* has exclusives/multiplats.. It's that *insert platform* has potential... And I don't see it with the Wii-U. If those games you mentioned were coming out for the Wii-U.. I (and others) would consider the platform simply because GTA 6, Resident Evil 7, and Tomb Raider "Reboot" II would be sure bet. As it stands I can't see companies all of a sudden jumping aboard with the PS4/720 looming. Ninty better pray M$/Sony has some sort of touch screen controllers. [/QUOTE]
Ok, but why? Would you seriously consider getting the WiiU version of their sequels, when factoring in such things as Nintendo's online, no achievement system, all your friends are on another place, Xbox always having the best version. Not to mention hardware power.
Why is the multiplatform state of WiiU even a consideration for you? I don't get it.
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, F-Zero, Smash; they are all safe bets regardless, and this is the only thing that should be on your mind.
I.e. do I want 3D Mario badly, is is worth putting down $300 for the system just for this game? Hmm, do I like Smash/Zelda etc. enough to care? Does that (magnificent) Project X trailer excite me? These are the kinds of questions relevant for WiiU, not whether Lara Croft will make a visit.
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- Jan 27, 2013 2:56 pm GMTHaven't thought about Tomb Raider since the PS1 days.
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- Jan 27, 2013 3:06 pm GMT
That is such a Lame Excuse.. and Tomb Raider is starting to look like a Mediocre Game anyway.. and i dont Care if AdobeArtist gets butthurt over my comment either..- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 27, 2013 3:09 pm GMT[QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]
[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="SuperFlakeman"]
Would you have gotten WiiU version of GTA V, Tomb Raider, etc. even if it did get perfect ports?
Nope. PS3 or 360 is your ecosystem of achievements, friends, etc. It's Steam in my case. It's nice that WiiU gets all kinds of indie games like The Cave... but I will get it for Steam instead, I don't do "gotta support X platform"
You buy a WiiU for its exclusives. When depends on its value in your eyes. For instance I got a PS3 Slim for $300 "just" for MGS4, that was my value limit. I got a WiiU day 1 cus of Nintendo Land, now it's sitting there collecting dust until the next wave of exclusives.
[/QUOTE] It's not just that *insert platform* has exclusives/multiplats.. It's that *insert platform* has potential... And I don't see it with the Wii-U. If those games you mentioned were coming out for the Wii-U.. I (and others) would consider the platform simply because GTA 6, Resident Evil 7, and Tomb Raider "Reboot" II would be sure bet. As it stands I can't see companies all of a sudden jumping aboard with the PS4/720 looming. Ninty better pray M$/Sony has some sort of touch screen controllers. [/QUOTE]
Ok, but why? Would you seriously consider getting the WiiU version of their sequels, when factoring in such things as Nintendo's online, no achievement system, all your friends are on another place, Xbox always having the best version. Not to mention hardware power.
Why is the multiplatform state of WiiU even a consideration for you? I don't get it.
Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, F-Zero, Smash; they are all safe bets regardless, and this is the only thing that should be on your mind.
I.e. do I want 3D Mario badly, is is worth putting down $300 for the system just for this game? Hmm, do I like Smash/Zelda etc. enough to care? Does that (magnificent) Project X trailer excite me? These are the kinds of questions relevant for WiiU, not whether Lara Croft will make a visit.
[/QUOTE] why do achievements have to be a factor in this? Acheivements are not even important.. i have a 50,000 gamerscore and i couldnt care less about it nor does it make me a better gamer or add to the gameplay..- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 27, 2013 3:27 pm GMTebrezzy1 wrote:
Family Friendly image Nintendo is ... Tomb Raider featuring a young girl attempted to get raped n blowing the dudes brains in ... Don't think Nintendo wants it or the company wants it on a console that has a proven track record of not buying mature games ... Or Any 3rd Party games for that matter
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Family Friendly image Nintendo is ... Tomb Raider featuring a young girl attempted to get raped n blowing the dudes brains in ... Don't think Nintendo wants it or the company wants it on a console that has a proven track record of not buying mature games ... Or Any 3rd Party games for that matter
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- Jan 27, 2013 4:58 pm GMT
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Maybe porting the game to Wii U isn't as easy as some of you derp derps who suddenly and magically seem to have first hand knowledge about game development on this scale really entails.
The the ps360 version of Batman AC had already been out for a year when the WiiU version came out and it still had problems. Even with all that extra time to optimize.
Maybe unfasten yourself from Nintendo's nutsack long enough to realize that Ninteno shipped the WiiU with low end hardware so they could have that expensive gimick controller without taking any loss.
We should even be having this dicussion right now, when GPU's from 2008 could already play 360 ports at 2-3x the resolution and framerate yet a console from the end of 2012 struggles to manage a 1:1 conversion? Stop drinking the koolaid and use whatever's left of your feeble brain.
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Actually info from a dev released awhile ago mentiioned how a game he was porting still managed to look decent on te WiiU.
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- Jan 27, 2013 4:59 pm GMT
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Probably a good call, it doesn't have mario or zelda in the title so wouldn't sell.[/QUOTE]
I hate stereotypes.
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:07 pm GMT
Now Playing:
Wii: Xenoblade, fishing resort, Endless ocean 1
WiiU: Epic Mickey 2, batman:arkham city, Monster Hnter 3 Ultimateso they didnt want to spend the extra time on wiiU and then going through the trouble of calling it the best version?
porbably would have pssd off all the 360/ps3 consumers and boycott their game.
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:14 pm GMT
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so they didnt want to spend the extra time on wiiU and then going through the trouble of calling it the best version?
porbably would have pssd off all the 360/ps3 consumers and boycott their game.
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Why would that piss off 360 and PS3 owners? I don't remember seeing 360 and PS3 owners boycotting Black Ops II or Assassin's Creed III when those games got ported to the Wii U. And why are you assuming the Wii U would get the best version of Tomb Raider?
Especially if all the versions came out at the same time?
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:20 pm GMT
Now Playing:
Wii: Xenoblade, fishing resort, Endless ocean 1
WiiU: Epic Mickey 2, batman:arkham city, Monster Hnter 3 Ultimate[QUOTE="caryslan2"]
[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]
so they didnt want to spend the extra time on wiiU and then going through the trouble of calling it the best version?
porbably would have pssd off all the 360/ps3 consumers and boycott their game.
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Why would that piss off 360 and PS3 owners? I don't remember seeing 360 and PS3 owners boycotting Black Ops II or Assassin's Creed III when those games got ported to the Wii U. And why are you assuming the Wii U would get the best version of Tomb Raider?
Especially if all the versions came out at the same time?
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tomb raider is already a bit of a joke to those "hardcore" ps3/360 gamers....making a wiiU version with "enhanced" gamepad controls would mean even less sales on said systems...
wiiU would get the best version because 1. the hardware can do it...and 2 the gamepad is going to be advertised as a plus not a minus..
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:43 pm GMT
[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Randy Pitchford said something similar about not porting Borderlands 2 to the Wii U. Devs don't want to put extra effort into a platform where it's going to get the least amount of sales. Nintendo better hope Sony or MS have a touchscreen controller as well, otherwise the only games that will make good use of the Wii U tablet will be Nintendo's first party games.[/QUOTE]
Yea but sales aren't really the problem for Randy. Hell, he really wants Borderlands 2 ported to the Vita, but since Gearbox wants to pull forward with BL2 DLC and other projects, he said Sony has to step forward and find someone to port it if they want it to happen.
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:46 pm GMTOreoMilkshake wrote:ebrezzy1 wrote:
Family Friendly image Nintendo is ... Tomb Raider featuring a young girl attempted to get raped n blowing the dudes brains in ... Don't think Nintendo wants it or the company wants it on a console that has a proven track record of not buying mature games ... Or Any 3rd Party games for that matter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2QAuSJJHI
Nintendo won't have violent games, eh?
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[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]
Family Friendly image Nintendo is ... Tomb Raider featuring a young girl attempted to get raped n blowing the dudes brains in ... Don't think Nintendo wants it or the company wants it on a console that has a proven track record of not buying mature games ... Or Any 3rd Party games for that matter
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2QAuSJJHI
Nintendo won't have violent games, eh?
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- Jan 27, 2013 5:51 pm GMTnintendoboy16 wrote:Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.DarkLink77 wrote:Yeah, man. It's not like Nintendo went out of the way to get Bayonetta 2 on the Wii-U, or Resident Evil 4 was one of the best-selling games on the Gamecube, or anything like that. Nintendo sure does hate having dem mature games on its consoles.ebrezzy1 wrote:
thats just been 1upped
congrats
Nope, not at all.
you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]
thats just been 1upped
congrats
[/QUOTE] Yeah, man. It's not like Nintendo went out of the way to get Bayonetta 2 on the Wii-U, or Resident Evil 4 was one of the best-selling games on the Gamecube, or anything like that. Nintendo sure does hate having dem mature games on its consoles.[/QUOTE]Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.
Nope, not at all.
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you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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- Jan 27, 2013 6:04 pm GMTebrezzy1 wrote:nintendoboy16 wrote:Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.DarkLink77 wrote:Yeah, man. It's not like Nintendo went out of the way to get Bayonetta 2 on the Wii-U, or Resident Evil 4 was one of the best-selling games on the Gamecube, or anything like that. Nintendo sure does hate having dem mature games on its consoles.
Nope, not at all.
you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah, man. It's not like Nintendo went out of the way to get Bayonetta 2 on the Wii-U, or Resident Evil 4 was one of the best-selling games on the Gamecube, or anything like that. Nintendo sure does hate having dem mature games on its consoles.[/QUOTE]Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.
Nope, not at all.
:roll:
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you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2QAuSJJHI
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- Jan 27, 2013 6:09 pm GMTTonyKoeffler wrote:ebrezzy1 wrote:nintendoboy16 wrote:Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.
Nope, not at all.
you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
the game didn't sell though ... only proving my point ... so thanks
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[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Also... it's not like Nintendo didn't leave Mortal Kombat II on the SNES alone after MKI on the same console got backlash for it's censorship.
Nope, not at all.
:roll:
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you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2QAuSJJHI
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the game didn't sell though ... only proving my point ... so thanks
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- Jan 27, 2013 6:11 pm GMT
[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]
[QUOTE="TonyKoeffler"]
[QUOTE="ebrezzy1"]
you know the first one didn't have blood for the last good nintendo console ... you had to enter a cheat code ... while the sega verison did ... that is what very first started nintendo is a kiddy console
again nintendo is a family friendly console and known as kidtendo and other such terms ... people go alll the way back to the gamecube or then snes ... to pick out games ... theres a reason why nintendo consoles haven't gotten third party support since the snes ... nintendo gamers don't buy them ... i don't know why people don't understand that
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV2QAuSJJHI
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the game didn't sell though ... only proving my point ... so thanks
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Didn't sell? Compared to what? So basically you are generalizing that all Nintendo gamers are people who are only interested in kiddie and/or casual games.
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- Jan 27, 2013 6:21 pm GMT[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]
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The underlying reason is: cost > potential revenue, as they see it. Reasonable.
[/QUOTE] Oh, definitely. But don't feed us some BS about the touchscreen. Just say it doesn't make sense to port it at this time, or you don't feel like it, or you're focusing on making the best game possible on PS3, 360, and PC. None of those things are untrue, and no one will lose their sh!t over that. But don't lie to us because you think we're dumb. C'mon now.
[/QUOTE] I agree with you, but do you think he thought to lie right away when he was asked the question?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 27, 2013 6:25 pm GMT
nintendos 'innovation' preventing 3rd parties from porting over...lmao. Nintendowned- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 27, 2013 7:10 pm GMTmagiciandude wrote:
Problem solved.
That thing doesn't even work with most Wii U games.i7 3570k - Gigabyte Z77X-D3H - 16 GB Corsair 1600 DDR3 - Corsair 850TX PSU - 680 GTX 2GB - Win 7x64 - Samsung B2330 - Samsung Syncmaster T220(Second monitor)
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]Problem solved.
[/QUOTE] That thing doesn't even work with most Wii U games.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 27, 2013 7:20 pm GMT
Translation- Wii U isn't selling, so why waste our time and money on making the game for it.
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