*The nazi comparisons are obvious hyperboles, cosndiering the irony involved in the 'jewish' state participating in administrated eugenics.

*They 'brought' them in- because they had to, they coerced contraceptives- because they didnt want to . That was my point. An administrative authority depends on statistical data to measure success- how far we're managed to promote education; how far we've managed to promote emplyment. etc. the clerks and elected officials in the executive branches have no motivation to take in uneducated destitute people into society. They fvck up their statistics- and prevent reelection or job advancement and effort recognition. (unless i'm seriously undervaluing the extents of the racial factors involved)

*The acts are obviously illegal under israeli law. But the policies we're, apparently, part of the 'official' acting of administrative discretion. That is institutional racism- public institutions can still break the law.

*I thought (as an israeli from middle-eastern origins) that you'd recognize the extreme example I gave in the form of the abducted Yemenis- guess not. I don't feel like arguing this point, but I think it's been substantiated enough that the accusations were pretty accurate.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] the aliens from the planet Krypton , I mean seriously, we did such a through job that there are almost none left now. some people sadly need their fix of "lets blame the Jews for something silly today"[/QUOTE]

Wait, didn't I specifically say that Israelis give Jews a bad name? I have nothing against Jews- they've been discriminated against since the beginning. And they're (the Israelis, not Jews) sterilizing Ethiopians- which is a specific nationality, and maybe even "race". The Israeli government perverts Judaism, much like their enemies pervert Islam.

It wasn't you that said it, but being the only Jewish state does not give them a blank check to do whatever they want. Any state based on a singular religion, be it Islam, Christianity, or Judaism is a poor idea. Naturally it's going to breed racism and prejudice. Their flag is the star of david, for Yahweh's sake. Their foreign policy and entire country is based entirely on one religion. Any minorites are automatically alienated. In this case, they're even sterlized.

[/QUOTE] Israel is not based on a single religion.

Sweden's (most secular country in the world pretty much) flag is a cross.

It is not.

In this context they are not a minority and are not sterilized.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] wheter they are hyperboles or not, its pretty damn insulting, as far as I see it , its a cheap insult and you know why. I also find it odd how everyone expects perfection, it sounds like "oh the Jews suffered , so they should be nice to everybody" , as though we have to learn lessons from it. thats what Im getting from it anyways. what you said is obvious , and could indeed account for this (even if people are not looking at it in the context its happening, or the details of it), and Ive said it before, if somebody was coereced into this, yeah , its unjust, and you know what , one could find out who is responsible and hold him accountable, but to go from that to the accusations above , or at least some of them , that I can't accept. and no , youre not undervaluing it too much , in general Id say racism towards blacks is not that different from the racism you get in the US , albeit the good and bad of it are in different places. lastly, if youre talking about family and such , its not my entire family , some were directly from the Middle East (we are talking about the last 100 years of course), or rather North Africa , some were not, though I think that even on that side, my grandfather might have been a descendent of Sfaradim who escaped from Spain. but in relation to that incident, Im not saying its true or not true, Im saying a bunch of activists are saying one thing, the government inquiry into the matter said another, between those 2 the truth is there. btw I do prefer the latter terms, hasbara sounds rather....defensive, almost like you owe somebody something.[/QUOTE] Asking the state not to perform not to perform birth control on the unwilling is asking for perfection to you?[/QUOTE] Sweden is regarded as perfect around here. Performed sterilazation of Romas. No one cares. Cause Jews didn't do it. [/QUOTE]

or maybe because in Sweden nobody goes and shouts about it to the foreign press, unless there is a Swedish version of Haaretz? :P seriously, Haaretz to the Israeli left is like Fox News to the American right,

I would suspect its similar regarding the treatment of illigal immigrants , crime and deportations happen in every country , but its only when Israel started deporting some that people went berserk (along with the usual holocaust references)

[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]they should do this to the arabs in Israel too. [/QUOTE]lol they should do this to the fifth column of malaysian society as well

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]lol, please cut the crap , when you say Israel , you mean Jews, its a Jewish state, the majority of its people are Jews, its the Jews, end of story, funny how some people will try to hide their feelings like that, simply because they are not politically correct, it would be like saying "I have no problems with Arabs, but damn I hate those Iraqis" , its about as stupid as it gets, if youre going to hate, at least be honest about it. [/QUOTE]I don't really think you're being fair here. When someone says "Israel" the chances are they're talking about the government and not all of the citizens. Furthermore, the example you gave is silly since things like regional specific grudges exist. If someone is British or Irish and has a beef with Scottish people for some reason, if they say they dislike Scots that doesn't translate into them hating white people.