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NAACP joins lawsuit against NYC's Soda Ban
- Jan 24, 2013 3:34 pm GMT
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I saw it on "the five" a little while ago. I guess some groups are suing against a New York City law that prohibits certain businesses from selling soda cups that are over a certain size.
Apparently the NAACP has joined the lawsuit because they feel the law would have a disproportionate impact on minority owned businesses, which tend to be smaller businesses.
So what do you guys think about this, is NYC's soda law harmful to black businesses?
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:36 pm GMT
Ya I think it is. I mean, what if someone really wanted an oversized soda? Why should it be illegal? Is buying a pack of cigarettes illegal? No it's not.
Its all about whatever your cup of tea man. But I guess its the law of the land now, (at least in NY) so we have to obey.
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:37 pm GMT
It's harmful to all business. I don't think it's the government's (local, state, or federal) decision on what people choose to drink. It is in fact a choice after all. If they really wanted to curb the consumption of soda, and make money at the same time, they should tax the crap out of it like they do tobacco products.
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:40 pm GMT
Education is the most interesting and difficult adventure in life. Educating - from the Latin educere - means leading young people to move beyond themselves and introducing them to reality, towards a fullness that leads to growth. This process is fostered by the encounter of two freedoms, that of adults and that of the young. It calls for responsibility on the part of the learners, who must be open to being led to the knowledge of reality, and on the part of educators, who must be ready to give of themselves. For this reason, today more than ever we need authentic witnesses, and not simply people who parcel out rules and facts; we need witnesses capable of seeing farther than others because their life is so much broader. A witness is someone who first lives the life that he proposes to others.
- Benedict XVI, Message for the World Day of Peace 2012
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: get a little cart full of soda that is larger than allowed by NYC's laws, sell them on the outskirts of NYC and then flee to a nearby city when the cops show up. Would neighboring cities and towns bother enforcing NYC's law?
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:44 pm GMT[QUOTE="whipassmt"]
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: get a little cart full of soda that is larger than allowed by NYC's laws, sell them on the outskirts of NYC and then flee to a nearby city when the cops show up. Would neighboring cities and towns bother enforcing NYC's law?
[/QUOTE] That wouldn't work, the surrounding cities will just pass the same laws in their municipalities. But i guess it would work temporarily as it wouldn't be against the law.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:46 pm GMT [QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: get a little cart full of soda that is larger than allowed by NYC's laws, sell them on the outskirts of NYC and then flee to a nearby city when the cops show up. Would neighboring cities and towns bother enforcing NYC's law?
[/QUOTE] That wouldn't work, the surrounding cities will just pass the same laws in their municipalities. But i guess it would work temporarily as it wouldn't be against the law.[/QUOTE] What exactly are the penalties for selling "oversized" soft drinks?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:47 pm GMT[QUOTE="lowkey254"][QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: get a little cart full of soda that is larger than allowed by NYC's laws, sell them on the outskirts of NYC and then flee to a nearby city when the cops show up. Would neighboring cities and towns bother enforcing NYC's law?
[/QUOTE] That wouldn't work, the surrounding cities will just pass the same laws in their municipalities. But i guess it would work temporarily as it wouldn't be against the law.[/QUOTE] What exactly are the penalties for selling "oversized" soft drinks?[/QUOTE] I don't know. All I heard was about the NYC law.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:49 pm GMTkingkong0124 wrote:
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Well It's clear given the opportunity to consume soda, people are irresponsible with it given the massive obesity rates- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:51 pm GMT
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The Atheism Union || last.fm || Try avast! for free!I'm more surprised the NAACP still exists.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:51 pm GMT-------------------
Just a ride.[QUOTE="lowkey254"]It's harmful to all business. I don't think it's the government's (local, state, or federal) decision on what people choose to drink. It is in fact a choice after all. If they really wanted to curb the consumption of soda, and make money at the same time, they should tax the crap out of it like they do tobacco products.
[/QUOTE] tobacco, alcohol, soda and other products similar to them should be taxed, but there is a fine line between a "sin" tax and taxing for the sake of taxing. After a while, taxes begin to lose their effectiveness and the state/city actually begin to lose revenues.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:54 pm GMT
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Well It's clear given the opportunity to consume soda, people are irresponsible with it given the massive obesity rates[/QUOTE] I couldn't say "irresponsible", but maybe ignorant instead.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 3:56 pm GMTWell, civilians really don't need such large sodas. What's the problem?
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:58 pm GMT
Education is the most interesting and difficult adventure in life. Educating - from the Latin educere - means leading young people to move beyond themselves and introducing them to reality, towards a fullness that leads to growth. This process is fostered by the encounter of two freedoms, that of adults and that of the young. It calls for responsibility on the part of the learners, who must be open to being led to the knowledge of reality, and on the part of educators, who must be ready to give of themselves. For this reason, today more than ever we need authentic witnesses, and not simply people who parcel out rules and facts; we need witnesses capable of seeing farther than others because their life is so much broader. A witness is someone who first lives the life that he proposes to others.
- Benedict XVI, Message for the World Day of Peace 2012
[QUOTE="outworld222"][QUOTE="whipassmt"]
I wonder if this would be a good business idea: get a little cart full of soda that is larger than allowed by NYC's laws, sell them on the outskirts of NYC and then flee to a nearby city when the cops show up. Would neighboring cities and towns bother enforcing NYC's law?
[/QUOTE] That wouldn't work, the surrounding cities will just pass the same laws in their municipalities. But i guess it would work temporarily as it wouldn't be against the law.[/QUOTE] Would they? Also though If I were to get fined in NYC for selling large soda, and I lived in another town and didn't pay my fine, I'm guessing New York state authorities would summon me to court for not paying the fine. So I guess I'de have to be in another state.
Maybe what a good business would be is to sell the large soda's off a boat and then high-tail it into Connecticut waters and then be totally out of New York's jurisdiction.
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- Jan 24, 2013 3:59 pm GMT
Education is the most interesting and difficult adventure in life. Educating - from the Latin educere - means leading young people to move beyond themselves and introducing them to reality, towards a fullness that leads to growth. This process is fostered by the encounter of two freedoms, that of adults and that of the young. It calls for responsibility on the part of the learners, who must be open to being led to the knowledge of reality, and on the part of educators, who must be ready to give of themselves. For this reason, today more than ever we need authentic witnesses, and not simply people who parcel out rules and facts; we need witnesses capable of seeing farther than others because their life is so much broader. A witness is someone who first lives the life that he proposes to others.
- Benedict XVI, Message for the World Day of Peace 2012
[QUOTE="thegerg"]Well, civilians really don't need such large sodas. What's the problem?[/QUOTE] Do soldiers?
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- Jan 24, 2013 4:01 pm GMT
[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Well It's clear given the opportunity to consume soda, people are irresponsible with it given the massive obesity rates[/QUOTE]soda is hardly the main reason for obesity. one can of coke is something like 160 calories. One big mac, 700 calories
food and exercise are the main reasons.
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Just a ride.[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Well It's clear given the opportunity to consume soda, people are irresponsible with it given the massive obesity rates[/QUOTE]soda is hardly the main reason for obesity. one can of coke is something like 160 calories. One big mac, 700 calories
food and exercise are the main reasons.
[/QUOTE] soda plays a role. dat refined sugar acts as a drug, and you're essentially consuming fvcktons of calories without it filling you up like a big mac.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 4:11 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="outworld222"]Ya I think it is. I mean, what if someone really wanted an oversized soda?
[/QUOTE] You could just buy a 12-pack at the store and go through the whole thing if you really want to consume that much soda. If the city really wants to curb obesity and high sugar intake, it'll have to do more than just banning a certain size of drinks.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 4:22 pm GMT
The ban is dumb to begin with. If someone really wants a lot of soda they will just buy two. Making the entire law a big waste.
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- Jan 24, 2013 4:24 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="Rich3232"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]Well It's clear given the opportunity to consume soda, people are irresponsible with it given the massive obesity rates[/QUOTE]soda is hardly the main reason for obesity. one can of coke is something like 160 calories. One big mac, 700 calories
food and exercise are the main reasons.
[/QUOTE] soda plays a role. dat refined sugar acts as a drug, and you're essentially consuming fvcktons of calories without it filling you up like a big mac. [/QUOTE] Not just that, but soda contains a lot of sugar, and high sugar intake has been associated with a variety of health problems like diabetes, depressed immune system, hypoglycemia, and poor cholesterol.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 24, 2013 4:24 pm GMT
Damn, you can spin just about anything into a racial issue if you need to remain relevant, can't you?
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