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  • DerveCreaves
     
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    Jan 22, 2013 5:06 pm GMT
    Vambran wrote:

    When Xbox came out most video games ( console side ) were still made mostly in Japan. And the Xbox got next to no 3rd party support. At best with a few exceptions , they would get a release a few years after a game came out on the PS2.

    Any serious gamer back in the early 00's either had a PS2 or a gaming PC. I got Fable and Halo 2 still for my Xbox. Everything else worth playing i rebought in HD for either steam or current gen consoles.



    Most games have mostly been made on consoles in the U.S. for pretty much all gens. Except maybe the 3rd gen.
    [QUOTE="Vambran"]

    When Xbox came out most video games ( console side ) were still made mostly in Japan. And the Xbox got next to no 3rd party support. At best with a few exceptions , they would get a release a few years after a game came out on the PS2.

    Any serious gamer back in the early 00's either had a PS2 or a gaming PC. I got Fable and Halo 2 still for my Xbox. Everything else worth playing i rebought in HD for either steam or current gen consoles.

    [/QUOTE] Most games have mostly been made on consoles in the U.S. for pretty much all gens. Except maybe the 3rd gen.
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  • DerveCreaves
     
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    Jan 22, 2013 5:19 pm GMT
    realguitarhero5 wrote:

    People bought Xboxes for Halo 2. I think that the PS2 is the superior platform, but I think that the Xbox sits in it's rightful place: Behind the PS2 in sales, and lacking the Nintendo exclusives like LoZ: Wind Waker or SSB Melee, but it's hard to knock it when it played most everything those two consoles played.



    With nearly over 100 games selling over a million (GC is no where near that, and PS2 may e around or slightly above that) You are clearly wrong.
    [QUOTE="realguitarhero5"]

    People bought Xboxes for Halo 2. I think that the PS2 is the superior platform, but I think that the Xbox sits in it's rightful place: Behind the PS2 in sales, and lacking the Nintendo exclusives like LoZ: Wind Waker or SSB Melee, but it's hard to knock it when it played most everything those two consoles played.

    [/QUOTE] With nearly over 100 games selling over a million (GC is no where near that, and PS2 may e around or slightly above that) You are clearly wrong.
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  • mjf249
     
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    Jan 22, 2013 5:47 pm GMT
    The original Xbox was great in my opinion, but back than the PS2 was my console of choice. Xbox Live, and titles like KOTOR, Rallisport Challenge, Ninja Gaiden, JSRF, Halo, and Fable really gave it some style. It reminded me a bit of Sega's Dreamcast to an extent. I wouldn't say it was underrated. One of my favorite systems for sure.
    The original Xbox was great in my opinion, but back than the PS2 was my console of choice. Xbox Live, and titles like KOTOR, Rallisport Challenge, Ninja Gaiden, JSRF, Halo, and Fable really gave it some style. It reminded me a bit of Sega's Dreamcast to an extent. I wouldn't say it was underrated. One of my favorite systems for sure.
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  • roulettethedog
     
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    Jan 22, 2013 6:02 pm GMT

    If you couldn't afford a decent gaming P.C., the original Xbox was a must.

    PC/Wii/360/PS3/PSP

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    If you couldn't afford a decent gaming P.C., the original Xbox was a must.

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  • NamelessPlayer
     
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    Jan 22, 2013 8:53 pm GMT
    DerveCreaves wrote:
    There were more exclusives on the Xbox 360 differentiation from PC (and others) than the Xbox.

    speedfreak48t5p wrote:
    Project Gotham Racing 4, Forza 4/Horizon, Halo say otherwise

    Okay, let me revise and clarify my statement: the only Xbox 360 exclusives that I actually care about are Shadow Complex and, if you count enhanced HD ports as exclusives, Perfect Dark, Radiant Silvergun, Guardian Heroes, and Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram.

    I'm not really interested in Halo beyond the original game, which incidentally has a PC port. If I want a racing game fix, I'll probably fire up Richard Burns Rally, though I do see the appeal in the Forza series as a comprehensive arcade racer bordering on sim-lite territory.
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    [QUOTE="DerveCreaves"]There were more exclusives on the Xbox 360 differentiation from PC (and others) than the Xbox.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE="speedfreak48t5p"]Project Gotham Racing 4, Forza 4/Horizon, Halo say otherwise[/QUOTE] Okay, let me revise and clarify my statement: the only Xbox 360 exclusives that I actually care about are Shadow Complex and, if you count enhanced HD ports as exclusives, Perfect Dark, Radiant Silvergun, Guardian Heroes, and Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram. I'm not really interested in Halo beyond the original game, which incidentally has a PC port. If I want a racing game fix, I'll probably fire up Richard Burns Rally, though I do see the appeal in the Forza series as a comprehensive arcade racer bordering on sim-lite territory.
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    Jan 22, 2013 8:58 pm GMT
    NamelessPlayer wrote:
    If I want a racing game fix, I'll probably fire up Richard Burns Rally, though I do see the appeal in the Forza series as a comprehensive arcade racer bordering on sim-lite territory.

    Forza is more of a simulation-type racing game leaning towards the arcade side. I would say that DiRT is more of an arcade racing game leaning towards simulation.

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    [QUOTE="NamelessPlayer"]If I want a racing game fix, I'll probably fire up Richard Burns Rally, though I do see the appeal in the Forza series as a comprehensive arcade racer bordering on sim-lite territory.[/QUOTE] Forza is more of a simulation-type racing game leaning towards the arcade side. I would say that DiRT is more of an arcade racing game leaning towards simulation.
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  • Lost-to-Apathy
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 4:04 am GMT

    I liked it, but then I got into PC gaming and realized that almost all of the games I was interested on the Xbox were on PC as well.

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    I liked it, but then I got into PC gaming and realized that almost all of the games I was interested on the Xbox were on PC as well.

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  • Darkman2007
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 5:24 am GMT

    underrated? no , good system? yes

    I think the system has a pretty good reputation , and it deserves it

    underrated? no , good system? yes

    I think the system has a pretty good reputation , and it deserves it

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  • Lucianu
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 7:02 am GMT

    AcidSoldner wrote:

    What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    What do you expect me to say wen everytime the Xbox is mentioned, its highlights proclaimed by fans are available on the PC in a infinitely superior form. I won't deny that it was ignorant of me. But people are gonna jump to that conclusion, just like with the DC and its hidden gems of exclusives.

    That list is awesome, i would love to play some of those games, so i definitely stand corrected.

    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

    What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you expect me to say wen everytime the Xbox is mentioned, its highlights proclaimed by fans are available on the PC in a infinitely superior form. I won't deny that it was ignorant of me. But people are gonna jump to that conclusion, just like with the DC and its hidden gems of exclusives.

    That list is awesome, i would love to play some of those games, so i definitely stand corrected.

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  • Blueresident87
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 7:45 am GMT

    I wouldn't call it underrated, but it maybe doesn't get enough credit for what it was. It completely changed the way video games are played online.


    I wouldn't call it underrated, but it maybe doesn't get enough credit for what it was. It completely changed the way video games are played online.

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  • TheKungFool
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 11:18 am GMT

    all I can say is that I owned all four relevant systems that generation (PS2, NGC, SDC, XBOX) and I would rank Xbox 4th.

    was it bad? no.
    was it under-rated? no.
    it simply was what it was.

    all I can say is that I owned all four relevant systems that generation (PS2, NGC, SDC, XBOX) and I would rank Xbox 4th.

    was it bad? no.
    was it under-rated? no.
    it simply was what it was.

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  • rilpas
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 12:50 pm GMT

    AcidSoldner wrote:

    Lucianu wrote:

    Most of its games are available on a PC, and a toaster PC at that. The Gamecube has many more worthwile exclusives.

    What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    actually far cry instincts is on the Xbox 360 as an unlockable on Farcry: Predator

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    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

    [QUOTE="Lucianu"]

    Most of its games are available on a PC, and a toaster PC at that. The Gamecube has many more worthwile exclusives.

    [/QUOTE]What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    [/QUOTE]

    actually far cry instincts is on the Xbox 360 as an unlockable on Farcry: Predator

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  • WiiCubeM1
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 1:16 pm GMT

    I never really thought it was. It always seemed like a niche system to me. A big niche, but I knew plenty of people growing up who never liked what it had to offer. It wasn't until Halo 2, when Xbox Live really took off, when people started to actually love it.

    But even nowadays, I know very few people that own one (I do, though), and most of it's exclusives were somewhat mediocre.

    Edited on Jan 23, 2013 1:17 pm GMT

    I never really thought it was. It always seemed like a niche system to me. A big niche, but I knew plenty of people growing up who never liked what it had to offer. It wasn't until Halo 2, when Xbox Live really took off, when people started to actually love it.

    But even nowadays, I know very few people that own one (I do, though), and most of it's exclusives were somewhat mediocre.

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  • DerveCreaves
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 1:17 pm GMT
    TheKungFool wrote:

    all I can say is that I owned all four relevant systems that generation (PS2, NGC, SDC, XBOX) and I would rank Xbox 4th.

    was it bad? no.
    was it under-rated? no.
    it simply was what it was.



    DC was relevant 2 gens ago? It was a good system. But they should have waited a bit longer for the Saturn to sprout at least a couple legs before rushing it out that early. it died to quick.

    Good thing the Xbox saved Shenmue.
    [QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

    all I can say is that I owned all four relevant systems that generation (PS2, NGC, SDC, XBOX) and I would rank Xbox 4th.

    was it bad? no.
    was it under-rated? no.
    it simply was what it was.

    [/QUOTE] DC was relevant 2 gens ago? It was a good system. But they should have waited a bit longer for the Saturn to sprout at least a couple legs before rushing it out that early. it died to quick. Good thing the Xbox saved Shenmue.
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  • Primordialous
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 2:26 pm GMT

    cyberstalker1 wrote:
    Some of the games on Xbox graphix still impress me to this day. Try half life 2. Makes me wonder why anyone bought a ps2

    Try Half-Life 2 on PC. It looked/looks and plays so much better.

    Gaming PC - Xbox 360 250GB

    [QUOTE="cyberstalker1"]Some of the games on Xbox graphix still impress me to this day. Try half life 2. Makes me wonder why anyone bought a ps2[/QUOTE]

    Try Half-Life 2 on PC. It looked/looks and plays so much better.

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  • Caseytappy
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 2:39 pm GMT

    It became the ultimate Emulator machine , Megadrive , Nes , Snes , Atari , Mame , Master System , Intellivision and many many more !

    It became the ultimate Emulator machine , Megadrive , Nes , Snes , Atari , Mame , Master System , Intellivision and many many more !

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  • Seabas989
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 9:29 pm GMT

    It's not underrated but it's a good system.

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    It's not underrated but it's a good system.

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  • LittleMac19
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 9:32 pm GMT
    Most people acknowledge as a good system with a strong library of games so no i don't think so. I enjoyed owning one back in 03, fun system.
    Most people acknowledge as a good system with a strong library of games so no i don't think so. I enjoyed owning one back in 03, fun system.
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  • AcidSoldner
     
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    Jan 23, 2013 11:29 pm GMT
    Lucianu wrote:

    AcidSoldner wrote:

    What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    What do you expect me to say wen everytime the Xbox is mentioned, its highlights proclaimed by fans are available on the PC in a infinitely superior form. I won't deny that it was ignorant of me. But people are gonna jump to that conclusion, just like with the DC and its hidden gems of exclusives.

    That list is awesome, i would love to play some of those games, so i definitely stand corrected.

    While I won't deny that the majority of the Xbox's best games are Xbox/PC multiplat (in my opinion anyway), there are so many Xbox only gems that most people tend to overlook.

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    [QUOTE="Lucianu"]

    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]

    What a silly thing to say.

    List of worthwhile Xbox exclusives (not available on any other platform):

    Breakdown
    Brute Force
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Conker: Live & Reloaded
    Crimson Sea
    Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
    Dance Dance Revolution Ultra Mix 1-4
    Dead or Alive 3
    Dead or Alive Ultimate
    Deathrow
    Far Cry Instincts
    Far Instincts Evolution
    Forza Motorsport
    Fuzion Frenzy
    Gunvalkyrie
    Hunter The Reckoning: Redeemer
    Jet Set Radio Future
    Kingdom Under Fire Heroes
    Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
    Mechassault
    Mechassault 2
    Metal Wolf Chaos
    Midtown Madness 3
    Ninja Gaiden
    Ninja Gaiden Black
    Otogi Myth of Demons
    Otogi 2 Immortal Warriors
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Phantom Crash
    Phantom Dust
    Project Gotham Racing
    Project Gotham Racing 2
    Quantum Redshift
    Rallisport Challenge 2
    Sega GT 2002
    Sega GT Online
    Steel Battalion
    Steel Battalion: Line of COntact
    ToeJam & Earl 3
    Ghost Recon 2: Summit Strike
    Rainbow Six 3: Black Arrow
    Unreal Championship
    Unreal Championship 2

    [/QUOTE]

    What do you expect me to say wen everytime the Xbox is mentioned, its highlights proclaimed by fans are available on the PC in a infinitely superior form. I won't deny that it was ignorant of me. But people are gonna jump to that conclusion, just like with the DC and its hidden gems of exclusives.

    That list is awesome, i would love to play some of those games, so i definitely stand corrected.

    [/QUOTE]While I won't deny that the majority of the Xbox's best games are Xbox/PC multiplat (in my opinion anyway), there are so many Xbox only gems that most people tend to overlook.
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  • BlendThree
     
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    Jan 24, 2013 1:10 am GMT

    roulettethedog wrote:

    If you couldn't afford a decent gaming P.C., the original Xbox was a must.

    This isn't too far off base- Having purchased all 3 platforms that gen (4 if you count Dreamcast); it did seem like most of the titles I considered must-have for the XBox were either avaialble for all of the systems or, at the very least, PC as well.

    I remember wanting to support it better than I ended up but it was difficult with the Sony train (and Nintendo's pretty attractive first party stuff on the GameCube). I ended up doing exactly what I hoped not to: Favoring the PS2 throughout most of the 6th generation.

    [QUOTE="roulettethedog"]

    If you couldn't afford a decent gaming P.C., the original Xbox was a must.

    [/QUOTE]

    This isn't too far off base- Having purchased all 3 platforms that gen (4 if you count Dreamcast); it did seem like most of the titles I considered must-have for the XBox were either avaialble for all of the systems or, at the very least, PC as well.

    I remember wanting to support it better than I ended up but it was difficult with the Sony train (and Nintendo's pretty attractive first party stuff on the GameCube). I ended up doing exactly what I hoped not to: Favoring the PS2 throughout most of the 6th generation.

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