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Is 1080p really needed in games ?

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  • Level 29
    Radiant Silvergun
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    Jan 20, 2013 12:24 am GMT

    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 720p, than have mediocre graphics in 1080p ?

    I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet

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    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 720p, than have mediocre graphics in 1080p ?

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    I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet

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    Cyber-Lip
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    Pre-emptive damage control for nextbox 720p games

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    Pre-emptive damage control for nextbox 720p games

  • Level 63
    Big Smoke
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    Jan 20, 2013 12:53 am GMT
    I guess that depends on whether or not Sony/MS say its needed. If next gen games are 720p console gamers will say 1080p is unnecessary. If they are 1080p, they will claim there is no point in owning a PC
    I guess that depends on whether or not Sony/MS say its needed. If next gen games are 720p console gamers will say 1080p is unnecessary. If they are 1080p, they will claim there is no point in owning a PC
  • Level 61
    Mr. Big
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    Jan 20, 2013 12:54 am GMT

    The **** did i get a 1080p TV for

    The **** did i get a 1080p TV for

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    DJ Boy
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    Jan 20, 2013 12:55 am GMT
    Idk about you Loosey. But I watched Avatar in 1080p.

    /full screen
    Edited on Jan 20, 2013 12:56 am GMT Edited 2 total times.
    Idk about you Loosey. But I watched Avatar in 1080p. /full screen
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    Big Smoke
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    480p is where the fun is

    480p is where the fun is

  • Level 58
    Death=Adder
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    loosingENDS wrote:

    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 720p, than have mediocre graphics in 1080p ?

    I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet

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    [QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 720p, than have mediocre graphics in 1080p ?

    [img]http://ilikewallpapers.com/file/369/1280x720/stretch/avatar-movie-hd-wallpapers-12100208-ilikewallpaperscom.jpg[/img]

    I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet

    [/QUOTE]

    AMD Cinema 2.0's Radeon HD 4870 X2(~2.4 TFLOPs)'s Ruby tech demo with real time voxel ray tracing.

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  • Level 33
    Goombella
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    Jan 20, 2013 12:56 am GMT

    That's because CGI movies are rendered by farms of computers, taking hours at a time to render a single scene. In other words, NOT REAL TIME. And to answer your question, yes, 1080p is absolutely needed. The difference between 720p and 1080p is night and day, for anyone who's not blind and/or trolling system wars. That's why all those CGI movies also look better in 1080p than 720p. Just like... literally everything looks better in 1080p than 720p. It's over twice as many pixels. It's not hard to understand. If the next Playstation and Xbox have ANY games that aren't being rendered in 1080p native... well that will just be beyond pathetic.

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    That's because CGI movies are rendered by farms of computers, taking hours at a time to render a single scene. In other words, NOT REAL TIME. And to answer your question, yes, 1080p is absolutely needed. The difference between 720p and 1080p is night and day, for anyone who's not blind and/or trolling system wars. That's why all those CGI movies also look better in 1080p than 720p. Just like... literally everything looks better in 1080p than 720p. It's over twice as many pixels. It's not hard to understand. If the next Playstation and Xbox have ANY games that aren't being rendered in 1080p native... well that will just be beyond pathetic.

  • Level 33
    Goombella
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:06 am GMT
    What's the point in having detailed games if it's running at a resolution too low to even see that detail?
    What's the point in having detailed games if it's running at a resolution too low to even see that detail?
  • Level 39
    Max Force
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:12 am GMT
    Maybe you should wait until Xbox 720 is announced before making excuses for why most of its games are 720p.
    Maybe you should wait until Xbox 720 is announced before making excuses for why most of its games are 720p.
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    Death=Adder
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:14 am GMT

    ohhh loosey i missed you. always so entertaining to here you vomit

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    ohhh loosey i missed you. always so entertaining to here you vomit

  • Level 47
    Jaquio
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:23 am GMT
    loosingENDS wrote:
    I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet


    you know there's a difference between games and movies, right? games will always be behind movies, because games have to process everything in real time.

    but to answer your question, lower levels of detail in 1080p look better than higher levels of detail in 720p
    [QUOTE="loosingENDS"]I dont see games anywhere close to 720p movie quality yet[/QUOTE] :| you know there's a difference between games and movies, right? games will always be behind movies, because games have to process everything in real time. but to answer your question, lower levels of detail in 1080p look better than higher levels of detail in 720p
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:24 am GMT
    Xbox 360:



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  • Level 44
    Violence Fight
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:32 am GMT

    Is 720p really needed in games ?

    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 240p, than have mediocre graphics in 720p ?

    Is 720p really needed in games ?

    I mean shouldnt every inch of power go to make games look closer to CGI in 240p, than have mediocre graphics in 720p ?

  • Level 38
    DJ Boy
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    oh my sides
    oh my sides
  • Level 33
    Goombella
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:40 am GMT

    PernicioEnigma wrote:
    What's the point in having detailed games if it's running at a resolution too low to even see that detail?

    Exactly. Dark Souls is a perfect example. It's certainly not a "graphics king" kind of game, even on PC, in HD, but it's shocking how much detail there is in the textures, that's completely invisible in the PS3/360 versions. You put the game on PC, give it a quick tweak to allow it to render in 1080p and, without any other alterations, all the sudden you see quite a bit of great little details, that looked like they were coated in vaseline before. The artists involved in the game drew up some beautiful, highly detailed models/textures/etc., but that sub-HD resolution is literally just not enough pixels to show all the detail that's already there.

    Some people really seem to think that effects and texture details are more important than resolution, when it comes to making a game look good. That's totally ass-backwards. Obviously the effects and details help, but without high resolution, all the effects and details in the world are meaningless and might as well be invisible.

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    [QUOTE="PernicioEnigma"]What's the point in having detailed games if it's running at a resolution too low to even see that detail?[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. Dark Souls is a perfect example. It's certainly not a "graphics king" kind of game, even on PC, in HD, but it's shocking how much detail there is in the textures, that's completely invisible in the PS3/360 versions. You put the game on PC, give it a quick tweak to allow it to render in 1080p and, without any other alterations, all the sudden you see quite a bit of great little details, that looked like they were coated in vaseline before. The artists involved in the game drew up some beautiful, highly detailed models/textures/etc., but that sub-HD resolution is literally just not enough pixels to show all the detail that's already there.

    Some people really seem to think that effects and texture details are more important than resolution, when it comes to making a game look good. That's totally ass-backwards. Obviously the effects and details help, but without high resolution, all the effects and details in the world are meaningless and might as well be invisible.

  • Level 13
    Toobin'
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:46 am GMT
    You could just as easily ask, "Are video games really needed in life?"

    That being said, Rayman Origins didn't look that much different in 1080p or 720p. I'm pretty sure Rayman Origins was legitimate 1080p for consoles.
    You could just as easily ask, "Are video games really needed in life?" That being said, Rayman Origins didn't look that much different in 1080p or 720p. I'm pretty sure Rayman Origins was legitimate 1080p for consoles.
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    Ippon!
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    Jan 20, 2013 1:48 am GMT

    I think it's important to treat each individual pixel as an individual.

    Stand up for the rights of every individual pixel.

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    I think it's important to treat each individual pixel as an individual.

    Stand up for the rights of every individual pixel.

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