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Official ALL NextGen rumors and speculation (PS4, 720, Steambox)
| PS4 before Xbox 720 and Steambox | 23% [19] |
| Xbox 720 before PS4 and Steambox | 18% [15] |
| Steambox before Xbox 720 and PS4 | 8% [7] |
| Doesn't matter, PC blows them all away, lol | 46% [38] |
| I'm sticking to this generation | 5% [4] |
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- Jan 18, 2013 5:34 pm GMT
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="Chozofication"]
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] I knew the Sony would abandon the Cell since the Cell was originally designed to be the cpu and gpu and after tests the Cell was sub par to what was out , so they contacted Nvidia for a stop gap measure using the G70 (7800). [/QUOTE]
Yeah. They were gonna use 2 cell's and no gpu. If only they contacted Ati instead...
Cell was pretty incredible by itself but whoever thought it could do graphics by itself wasn't thinking straight.
[/QUOTE] PS3 with Radeon X1900/128bit GDDR3 + CELL/72bit XDR would have two processors capable for Fold@Home.
On PS3, Radeon X1900 wouldn't be restricted by MS DX9c e.g. ATI's Close-To-Metal GpGPU compute, 3DC+ (recycled for DX10), Havok type GpGPU physics (AMD tech demo), MSAA with FP HDR.
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Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
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- Jan 18, 2013 5:37 pm GMTloosingENDS Wisdom:
My PC is not a gaming PC in the sense that does not have a GPU that will run games in playable frame rates, other than that is a DX11 GPU that will run any game in any setting
Was xbox 360 based on a 9800 pro of 2003 ?
No, it was based on a 8800GTX of 2006
[QUOTE="Chozofication"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"]
[QUOTE="Chozofication"]
Yeah. They were gonna use 2 cell's and no gpu. If only they contacted Ati instead...
Cell was pretty incredible by itself but whoever thought it could do graphics by itself wasn't thinking straight.
[/QUOTE] PS3 with Radeon X1900/128bit GDDR3 + CELL/72bit XDR would have two processors capable for Fold@Home.
On PS3, Radeon X1900 wouldn't be restricted by MS DX9c e.g. ATI's Close-To-Metal GpGPU compute, 3DC+ (recycled for DX10), Havok type GpGPU physics (AMD tech demo), MSAA with FP HDR.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
[/QUOTE] Because it was a stop gap measure to use the G70 chipset.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 18, 2013 5:42 pm GMT
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] PS3 with Radeon X1900/128bit GDDR3 + CELL/72bit XDR would have two processors capable for Fold@Home.
On PS3, Radeon X1900 wouldn't be restricted by MS DX9c e.g. ATI's Close-To-Metal GpGPU compute, 3DC+ (recycled for DX10), Havok type GpGPU physics (AMD tech demo), MSAA with FP HDR.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
[/QUOTE] Because it was a stop gap measure to use the G70 chipset.[/QUOTE]
I don't follow.
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- Jan 18, 2013 5:52 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]
Yeah. They were gonna use 2 cell's and no gpu. If only they contacted Ati instead...
Cell was pretty incredible by itself but whoever thought it could do graphics by itself wasn't thinking straight.
[/QUOTE] PS3 with Radeon X1900/128bit GDDR3 + CELL/72bit XDR would have two processors capable for Fold@Home.
On PS3, Radeon X1900 wouldn't be restricted by MS DX9c e.g. ATI's Close-To-Metal GpGPU compute, 3DC+ (recycled for DX10), Havok type GpGPU physics (AMD tech demo), MSAA with FP HDR.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
[/QUOTE]
Sony was looking to patch CELL's missing GPU fix function units and G70 would be the closest match.
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- Jan 18, 2013 5:54 pm GMT
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] PS3 with Radeon X1900/128bit GDDR3 + CELL/72bit XDR would have two processors capable for Fold@Home.
On PS3, Radeon X1900 wouldn't be restricted by MS DX9c e.g. ATI's Close-To-Metal GpGPU compute, 3DC+ (recycled for DX10), Havok type GpGPU physics (AMD tech demo), MSAA with FP HDR.
[/QUOTE]
Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
[/QUOTE] Sony was looking to patch CELL's missing GPU fix function units and G70 would be the closest match.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Does that mean a X1900 or Xenos actually would've been worse for the PS3?
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- Jan 18, 2013 5:58 pm GMTtormentos wrote:Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.TheXFiles88 wrote:I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
Edited on Jan 18, 2013 5:59 pm GMTSony presents: "See TEH Future"...
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"[/QUOTE] Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
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- Jan 18, 2013 6:03 pm GMT
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Why do you think Sony went with Nvidia? Only thing I can think of is that they just weren't thinking. I don't think it would've cost more for a Xenos.
[/QUOTE] Sony was looking to patch CELL's missing GPU fix function units and G70 would be the closest match.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Does that mean a X1900 or Xenos actually would've been worse for the PS3?
[/QUOTE] No. Sony didn't factor in the lack of forward design with G70. Radeon X1900 goes beyond DX9c's SM3.0 and fails DX10's SM4.0.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 18, 2013 6:08 pm GMT6 to 8 ARM/X86 follows AMD's plan to include quad-core ARM CPUs with it's future X86 APUs.TheXFiles88 wrote:tormentos wrote:Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.TheXFiles88 wrote:I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
Edited on Jan 18, 2013 6:09 pm GMTACER Iconia W500 Tablet, 120GB SSD, Windows 8 Pro/Android 4.0 RC2
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CPU: Intel Core i7-2600, RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600, GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB VRAM[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]
[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"[/QUOTE] Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
[/QUOTE] 6 to 8 ARM/X86 follows AMD's plan to include quad-core ARM CPUs with it's future X86 APUs.
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- Jan 18, 2013 6:08 pm GMT
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] Sony was looking to patch CELL's missing GPU fix function units and G70 would be the closest match.[/QUOTE]
Huh. Does that mean a X1900 or Xenos actually would've been worse for the PS3?
[/QUOTE] No. Sony didn't factor in the lack of forward design with G70. Radeon X1900 goes beyond DX9c's SM3.0 and fails DX10's SM4.0. [/QUOTE]
I think I get it.
RSX was better for the type of rendering going on when Sony chose Nvidia, but Xenos was made with future rendering in mind.
I just thought that Xenos was always better period, regardless of workload.
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- Jan 18, 2013 6:10 pm GMT
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CPU: Intel Core i7-2600, RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600, GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB VRAM[QUOTE="Chozofication"]
[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]
Huh. Does that mean a X1900 or Xenos actually would've been worse for the PS3?
[/QUOTE] No. Sony didn't factor in the lack of forward design with G70. Radeon X1900 goes beyond DX9c's SM3.0 and fails DX10's SM4.0. [/QUOTE]
I think I get it.
RSX was better for the type of rendering going on when Sony chose Nvidia, but Xenos was made with future rendering in mind.
I just thought that Xenos was always better period, regardless of workload.
[/QUOTE]
Xenos has it's own issues i.e. NEC provided "SMART" eDRAM part. CELL's SPUs has enough power to patch RSX's aging design.
In general, Xbox 360 and PS3 are roughtly similar.
PS: SMART eDRAM includes NEC's GPU fix function backend units i.e. it's not 100 percent ATI.
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- Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm GMTTheXFiles88 wrote:tormentos wrote:Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.TheXFiles88 wrote:I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
No actually you don't understand how consoles work,you spend to much money on hardware you loss a ton of cash,MS loss 4 billions on the original xbox and did not had 3 GPU,it loss 3.1 billions on the xbox 360 2.1 billion of the 3 were do to cost of production,MS was losing $125 dollar per unit on launch,and basically the only expensive things on the 360 were the Xenos and DDR3,the 360 did not had 3 GPU either.
Don't tell me they have full control that is a joke those components cost money there is not way in hell that the 720 will have 3 GPU you can bookmark this post if you like,not only it would be prohibitive cost wise,but it would have a TDP way over console standards.
The xbox 360 had only 1 top of the line GPU and RROD cost MS 1 billion,imagine what 3 GPU 2 of them top of the line would do in a small box.Lets see who get closer.sts106mat wrote:any idea what the PS4 will cost? the steam box just announced its going be retailing at $1000...PS4 could be priced the same or even more.[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"][QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]I am a cry baby? Lol. Look, you beleive in "RUMORS" which are best suited for you but rebuffed "REAL"[/QUOTE] Dude you know how many patents not only sony also MS had that they will never use,just because they patent something doesn't mean it will appear in a product.. In fact that patent is why some blind fanboys are saying the 720 will have 3 GPU,the 3 GPU in question all from the 8000 series 2 of them been top of the line 8970,the other 8850,there is no way in hell that MS will pack that unless the xbox 720 is the size of a huge tower with huge fans,and cost $1,500 dollars minimum.. The 8970 has a TDP of 250 Watts 1 alone is already to hot for the 720,let alone 2 of them + another 8850,ad to this ram,CPU we are looking at what a 700 watts console.? Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
Lol, you still don't really understand the most basic fundamental architecture in video game consoles, dude. You just can not put the retail PC products in a video game console. It just doesn't work that way.
These are the custom built CPU & GPU in which IBM/AMD/M$ would remove any functions which are not applicable for games. Also, M$ has full control of the costs since they manuflacture these chips from a 3rd party such as Flexronics...
Also, the CPU & GPU may have multi-core structures, no multiple phycial CPU's & GPU's, just like the Xbox's Xenon design. If that pic doesn't satisfy you, how about this one. Same muiti-core CPU & GPU layout. So who is the cry baby now???
[/QUOTE] No actually you don't understand how consoles work,you spend to much money on hardware you loss a ton of cash,MS loss 4 billions on the original xbox and did not had 3 GPU,it loss 3.1 billions on the xbox 360 2.1 billion of the 3 were do to cost of production,MS was losing $125 dollar per unit on launch,and basically the only expensive things on the 360 were the Xenos and DDR3,the 360 did not had 3 GPU either. Don't tell me they have full control that is a joke those components cost money there is not way in hell that the 720 will have 3 GPU you can bookmark this post if you like,not only it would be prohibitive cost wise,but it would have a TDP way over console standards. The xbox 360 had only 1 top of the line GPU and RROD cost MS 1 billion,imagine what 3 GPU 2 of them top of the line would do in a small box.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 18, 2013 6:41 pm GMT
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CPU: Intel Core i7-3635QM, RAM: 8 GB, GPU: AMD Radeon HD 8870M 2GB VRAM.----
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CPU: Intel Core i7-2600, RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600, GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB VRAM[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="clyde46"] And that 8900 series GPU....[/QUOTE] 8970 OEM (rename 7970 Ghz Edition aka Tahiti XT2) has about 4.3 TFLOPs and >200 watts chip. You are looking at Silverstone's Mini-ITX SG07/SG08/SG09/SG10 level box with a matching power supply. [/QUOTE] So its not going to be a regular GPU then?[/QUOTE]
With 200 watt budget, they could fit AMD Kaveri APU/7750 + 7850 and have a total chip size smaller than 1st gen PS3's CELL+RSX combo.
1st gen IBM CELL = 230 mm^2
1st gen NVIDIA RSX = 258 mm^2
Total die size: 488 mm^2.
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CPU: ~225.625 mm^2 for 28nm based Kaveri APU i.e. based on 32nm Trinity APU but with double X86 decoders and Radeon HD 7750 (8 CU) drop in replacement.
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7850 (16 CU) = 212 mm^2
The problem would be the PCB.
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- Jan 18, 2013 7:01 pm GMTtormentos wrote:Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now???
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...
Edited on Jan 18, 2013 7:12 pm GMTSony presents: "See TEH Future"...
[QUOTE="tormentos"] Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
:lol:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now??? :lol:
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...:lol:
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- Jan 18, 2013 7:16 pm GMTTheXFiles88 wrote:tormentos wrote:Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now???
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...
You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months..
Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..Lets see who get closer.sts106mat wrote:any idea what the PS4 will cost? the steam box just announced its going be retailing at $1000...PS4 could be priced the same or even more.[QUOTE="TheXFiles88"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
:lol:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now??? :lol:
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...:lol:
[/QUOTE] You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months.. Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..:lol:- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Jan 18, 2013 7:56 pm GMT
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- Jan 18, 2013 8:01 pm GMT
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Kevin Van Ord wrote:I just want to say--again--something I have said many, many times before: Dispel the notion that a game starts at a 10, and gets points "docked" from it. That would be a really silly way to review a game.Game reviews aren't mathematical logarithms. They are the result of an experience that makes an impression on the mental and emotional superhighway of the game reviewer. I don't have a spreadheet that starts with a 10 and has calculations built in, where "low frame rate" = a .25 hit to the score. It doesn't work that way, and thank God for that.
[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]this vanished from stickyland pretty fast.
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- Jan 18, 2013 8:05 pm GMT
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this vanished from stickyland pretty fast.
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Yeah, I wonder what happened?
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- Jan 18, 2013 8:08 pm GMTTheXFiles88 wrote:tormentos wrote:Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now???
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...
Xbox 360's CPU design is on par with Intel Atom i.e. in-order dual instruction issue per cycle with half speed L2 cache. On LinuxPPC benchmarks, PPE @3.2Ghz ~= PPC 970 @ 1.6Ghz
It's nowhere near AMD K8 Athlon 64 X2 @3.0 Ghz i.e. AMD K8 ~= PPC 970.
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[QUOTE="tormentos"] Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
:lol:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now??? :lol:
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...:lol:
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Xbox 360's CPU design is on par with Intel Atom i.e. in-order dual instruction issue per cycle with half speed L2 cache. On LinuxPPC benchmarks, PPE @3.2Ghz ~= PPC 970 @ 1.6Ghz
It's nowhere near AMD K8 Athlon 64 X2 @3.0 Ghz i.e. AMD K8 ~= PPC 970.
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- Jan 18, 2013 8:12 pm GMTtormentos wrote:You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months.. Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..TheXFiles88 wrote:tormentos wrote:Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now???
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...
Perhaps, 3 GCN 384 stream processors (6 CUs) LOL.. A total of 18 CUs....
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CPU: Intel Core i7-2600, RAM: 16GB DDR3-1600, GPU: AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB VRAM[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]
[QUOTE="tormentos"] Please dude stop been a cry baby that just a lame patent MS did,to cash on any one who do something like that.[/QUOTE]
:lol:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now??? :lol:
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...:lol:
[/QUOTE] You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months.. Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..:lol:[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, 3 GCN 384 stream processors (6 CUs) LOL.. A total of 18 CUs....
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- Jan 18, 2013 8:16 pm GMTronvalencia wrote:tormentos wrote:You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months.. Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..TheXFiles88 wrote:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now???
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...
Perhaps, 3 GCN 384 stream processors (6 CUs) LOL.. A total of 18 CUs....
For $350 like the analysts are currently predicting? I highly doubt it.
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[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="TheXFiles88"]
:lol:ORLY? Just a lame patent huh? Remember this leaked patent of the Xbox 360's Xenon. As I recall, when the leaked doc was posted on the internet, people proclaimed it as BS/Fake/would not happen since the top of the line CPU's at that time had only Dual-Core. People believed that there would be impossible for a console to have such a high-end CPU since the cost would be too high, just as what you had said. Look at what happened to the final specs of the Xbox 360? So, who is the crying baby now??? :lol:
And how about this leaked patent? Does it ring a bell to you or something? You are such a hypocrite...:lol:
[/QUOTE] You are a blind fanboy and when MS reveal their spec i will muck you so much you would not want to post here for months.. Mark my post the 720 will not have 3 GPU let alone top of the line..:lol:[/QUOTE]
Perhaps, 3 GCN 384 stream processors (6 CUs) LOL.. A total of 18 CUs....
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For $350 like the analysts are currently predicting? I highly doubt it.
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