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Sony Patent May Kill Second Hand Market

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  • Level 58
    Death=Adder
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    Jan 5, 2013 10:08 pm GMT
    If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.
    If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.
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    Jan 6, 2013 3:19 am GMT

    BranKetra wrote:
    If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.
    Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

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    [QUOTE="BranKetra"]If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

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    Jan 6, 2013 3:40 am GMT
    MirkoS77 wrote:

    So would ownership cease to exist in the digital age?


    That sure as hell sounds like what they're trying to do.



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    [QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

    So would ownership cease to exist in the digital age?

    [/QUOTE] That sure as hell sounds like what they're trying to do.
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    Jan 6, 2013 6:25 am GMT

    S0lidSnake wrote:

    You sure like to talk about Japanese culture as if you're an expert. Sadly, you're almost always wrong.

    Saying Sony's reason for combating used game sales is due to some Japanese way of thinking is bullsh*t.

    I have extensive business dealings in Japan going back more than 15 years. I know the country and the culture quite well. What, specifically, am I almost always wrong about?

    [QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

    You sure like to talk about Japanese culture as if you're an expert. Sadly, you're almost always wrong.

    Saying Sony's reason for combating used game sales is due to some Japanese way of thinking is bullsh*t.

    [/QUOTE]

    I have extensive business dealings in Japan going back more than 15 years. I know the country and the culture quite well. What, specifically, am I almost always wrong about?

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    Jan 6, 2013 8:35 am GMT
    Vari3ty wrote:

    Indeed. The only way I really have any peace of mind from digital purchases is when they are DRM free, like GOG games.


    Believe me, I'm more than willing to use GOG due to the fact that they have no way of controlling the game after it was sold. I'm always willing to drop a few extra bucks for the GOG version of a game for this reason alone. I just wish they could get more newer games.

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    [QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    Indeed. The only way I really have any peace of mind from digital purchases is when they are DRM free, like GOG games.

    [/QUOTE] Believe me, I'm more than willing to use GOG due to the fact that they have no way of controlling the game after it was sold. I'm always willing to drop a few extra bucks for the GOG version of a game for this reason alone. I just wish they could get more newer games.
  • Level 24
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    Jan 6, 2013 8:44 am GMT
    I just dont get how they think this is gonna be a good move for the company.Gamestop and all those stores are gonna close, and people will not be able to rent.....

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    I just dont get how they think this is gonna be a good move for the company.Gamestop and all those stores are gonna close, and people will not be able to rent.....
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    Jan 6, 2013 11:52 am GMT

    Bigboi500 wrote:

    BranKetra wrote:
    If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.
    Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

    Either the PS4 and next Xbox both block used games or they don't, I don't see any middle ground here.

    [QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

    [QUOTE="BranKetra"]If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

    [/QUOTE]

    Either the PS4 and next Xbox both block used games or they don't, I don't see any middle ground here.

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    Jan 6, 2013 12:02 pm GMT
    Vari3ty wrote:

    Bigboi500 wrote:

    BranKetra wrote:
    If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.
    Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

    Either the PS4 and next Xbox both block used games or they don't, I don't see any middle ground here.


    I almost hope they do. I'd like to see Sony and Microsoft watch in horror as their new hardware tanks and then see them backpedal in a rush to recoup their losses by offering revised hardware without the anti-used device.

    But I tend to underestimate the idiocy of the masses, so it would be better if this crap never saw the light of day.



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    [QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

    [QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

    [QUOTE="BranKetra"]If they do anything with this, it could backfire on them because the used game market is as large as it is right now. If Microsoft and Nintendo continue to allow used game sales, gamers might buy their consoles instead of the PS4.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. I only intend to possibly buy either a720 or a Ps4, not both like this time because they are too similar in game libraries. If one of them blocks used games I'll go with the other, and if both do it I'll stick with Wii U, PC and handhelds.

    [/QUOTE]

    Either the PS4 and next Xbox both block used games or they don't, I don't see any middle ground here.

    [/QUOTE] I almost hope they do. I'd like to see Sony and Microsoft watch in horror as their new hardware tanks and then see them backpedal in a rush to recoup their losses by offering revised hardware without the anti-used device. But I tend to underestimate the idiocy of the masses, so it would be better if this crap never saw the light of day.
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    Jan 6, 2013 3:46 pm GMT

    El_Zo1212o wrote:
    MirkoS77 wrote:

    So would ownership cease to exist in the digital age?

    That sure as hell sounds like what they're trying to do.

    I tell you man, I really love this hobby but as each year passes it seems worse and worse things are being implemented that are bordering on ruining the fun. I've never seen any other industry or hobby so detrimentally affected as gaming is, and am concerned whether it can weather the storm. Perhaps another crash is needed...

    [QUOTE="El_Zo1212o"][QUOTE="MirkoS77"]

    So would ownership cease to exist in the digital age?

    [/QUOTE] That sure as hell sounds like what they're trying to do.[/QUOTE]

    I tell you man, I really love this hobby but as each year passes it seems worse and worse things are being implemented that are bordering on ruining the fun. I've never seen any other industry or hobby so detrimentally affected as gaming is, and am concerned whether it can weather the storm. Perhaps another crash is needed...

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    Jan 6, 2013 3:57 pm GMT

    mrsniper83 wrote:
    I just dont get how they think this is gonna be a good move for the company.Gamestop and all those stores are gonna close, and people will not be able to rent.....

    Places like Gamestop and (especially) Gamefly depend on the used game market, they would not go down without a fight. If Sony did take this step, not only would nobody buy their hardware but I'd think there'd be a huge legal battle between GS, GF, and Sony that I have faith Sony would lose. Considering their dire financial situation, they couldn't be that stupid and if they are they deserve to go under. If this happens it'll be interesting to watch to say the least, and if Sony gets its way it will save me money as I'll never buy such a system. Maybe when it's at the end of its lifespan and not bringing in any more revenue I'll buy one, like at the PS 5's release.....if Sony survives that long.

    Edited on Jan 6, 2013 3:59 pm GMT

    [QUOTE="mrsniper83"]I just dont get how they think this is gonna be a good move for the company.Gamestop and all those stores are gonna close, and people will not be able to rent.....[/QUOTE]

    Places like Gamestop and (especially) Gamefly depend on the used game market, they would not go down without a fight. If Sony did take this step, not only would nobody buy their hardware but I'd think there'd be a huge legal battle between GS, GF, and Sony that I have faith Sony would lose. Considering their dire financial situation, they couldn't be that stupid and if they are they deserve to go under. If this happens it'll be interesting to watch to say the least, and if Sony gets its way it will save me money as I'll never buy such a system. Maybe when it's at the end of its lifespan and not bringing in any more revenue I'll buy one, like at the PS 5's release.....if Sony survives that long.

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