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How powerful was the 3DO? Also, it could have dominated 5th gen.
- Dec 18, 2012 12:40 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]I consider both the 3DO and Atari Jagaur as pretty much the 4.5 gen. These consoles were barely alive during the 5th generation. Similar to the Dreamcast which is technically part of the 6th generation like these are part of the 5th but feels more like a 5th gen system because of the time period and lack of competing systems at the time that survived. These systems like the Dreamcast were pretty much dead by the time competition came in. Comparing Saturn numbers can be misleading different time periods different competition.[/QUOTE] Saturn and 3do had competitive 3d for most games.[/QUOTE]
uh no. clearly tou never even played a saturn. my god I hope as hell you are just a troll.
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- Dec 19, 2012 1:06 pm GMTDarkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:
again , no evidence on your part, the rest of what you wrote I can't even understand.
and never did I say it only sold 500 thousand, what I did say was since by May 95 it sold 500K (according to the words of the guy running the company , who I think would have more reliable info than you) , then its pretty much impossible it sold anywhere near 5 million like you said, since the system was dead by mid 96.
please don't make me feel like Im talking to a small child.
you are impling undeniably it sold the number he claimed which means like a small child you change things around when things don't go your way. Not even bothering to do simple research. You ARE saying not only that it sold less than 5 million but also that it sold 500000 since you used that statement to say it sold less than 5 million and that he is reliable.
yet simple search shows gex at 250000 and 200000 and the 3DO has tons of games, using common sense the 3DO had to at least get to it pass one million unless:
someone brought copies of the same game.
only gex buyers brought 3do games, which was not released in all districts.
they lied at e3.
most games sold less than 100 copies.
all of which are improbable. You go the effort to find one video but you can't find a simple figure for one game than insult.
this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that.
1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer.
2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't
3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie.
4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same time
, I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up.
5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game.
6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about.
you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying.
thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post,
You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you.
I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played.
1) my points are clear you choose not to except them.
2)You never looked at all.
3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid.
4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys.
5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage?
6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable.
I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you?
http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm
Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate:
"The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of"
Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] again , no evidence on your part, the rest of what you wrote I can't even understand. and never did I say it only sold 500 thousand, what I did say was since by May 95 it sold 500K (according to the words of the guy running the company , who I think would have more reliable info than you) , then its pretty much impossible it sold anywhere near 5 million like you said, since the system was dead by mid 96. please don't make me feel like Im talking to a small child.[/QUOTE] you are impling undeniably it sold the number he claimed which means like a small child you change things around when things don't go your way. Not even bothering to do simple research. You ARE saying not only that it sold less than 5 million but also that it sold 500000 since you used that statement to say it sold less than 5 million and that he is reliable. yet simple search shows gex at 250000 and 200000 and the 3DO has tons of games, using common sense the 3DO had to at least get to it pass one million unless: someone brought copies of the same game. only gex buyers brought 3do games, which was not released in all districts. they lied at e3. most games sold less than 100 copies. all of which are improbable. You go the effort to find one video but you can't find a simple figure for one game than insult.[/QUOTE] this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that. 1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer. 2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't 3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie. 4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same time :P , I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up. 5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game. 6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about. you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying. thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post, [/QUOTE] You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you. I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played. 1) my points are clear you choose not to except them. 2)You never looked at all. 3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid. 4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys. 5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage? 6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable. I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you? http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate: "The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of" Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 1:07 pm GMT[QUOTE="bultje112"]
[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Devil-Itachi"]I consider both the 3DO and Atari Jagaur as pretty much the 4.5 gen. These consoles were barely alive during the 5th generation. Similar to the Dreamcast which is technically part of the 6th generation like these are part of the 5th but feels more like a 5th gen system because of the time period and lack of competing systems at the time that survived. These systems like the Dreamcast were pretty much dead by the time competition came in. Comparing Saturn numbers can be misleading different time periods different competition.[/QUOTE] Saturn and 3do had competitive 3d for most games.[/QUOTE]
uh no. clearly tou never even played a saturn. my god I hope as hell you are just a troll.
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- Dec 19, 2012 1:42 pm GMTLordofinternet wrote:You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you. I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played. 1) my points are clear you choose not to except them. 2)You never looked at all. 3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid. 4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys. 5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage? 6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable. I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you? http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate: "The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of" Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....Darkman2007 wrote:this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that. 1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer. 2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't 3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie. 4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same timeLordofinternet wrote:you are impling undeniably it sold the number he claimed which means like a small child you change things around when things don't go your way. Not even bothering to do simple research. You ARE saying not only that it sold less than 5 million but also that it sold 500000 since you used that statement to say it sold less than 5 million and that he is reliable. yet simple search shows gex at 250000 and 200000 and the 3DO has tons of games, using common sense the 3DO had to at least get to it pass one million unless: someone brought copies of the same game. only gex buyers brought 3do games, which was not released in all districts. they lied at e3. most games sold less than 100 copies. all of which are improbable. You go the effort to find one video but you can't find a simple figure for one game than insult. , I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up. 5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game. 6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about. you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying. thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post,
pile of nonsense again Im afraid
1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument
2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either.
3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying
4) no I didn't
5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing
6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand.
7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less
8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus
www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-results-reveal-new-xbox-sales-figures
hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea, Australia occasionally) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since a fair amount of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched.
so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.
Edited on Dec 19, 2012 1:55 pm GMT Edited 2 total times.[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] you are impling undeniably it sold the number he claimed which means like a small child you change things around when things don't go your way. Not even bothering to do simple research. You ARE saying not only that it sold less than 5 million but also that it sold 500000 since you used that statement to say it sold less than 5 million and that he is reliable. yet simple search shows gex at 250000 and 200000 and the 3DO has tons of games, using common sense the 3DO had to at least get to it pass one million unless: someone brought copies of the same game. only gex buyers brought 3do games, which was not released in all districts. they lied at e3. most games sold less than 100 copies. all of which are improbable. You go the effort to find one video but you can't find a simple figure for one game than insult.[/QUOTE] this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that. 1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer. 2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't 3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie. 4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same time :P , I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up. 5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game. 6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about. you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying. thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post, [/QUOTE] You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you. I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played. 1) my points are clear you choose not to except them. 2)You never looked at all. 3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid. 4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys. 5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage? 6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable. I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you? http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate: "The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of" Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....[/QUOTE]
pile of nonsense again Im afraid
1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument :P
2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either.
3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying
4) no I didn't
5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing
6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand.
7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less
8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus
www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/microsoft-results-reveal-new-xbox-sales-figures
hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea, Australia occasionally) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since a fair amount of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched.
so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.
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- Dec 19, 2012 1:59 pm GMTDarkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:
this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that.
1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer.
2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't
3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie.
4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same time , I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up.
5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game.
6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about.
you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying.
thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post,
You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you.
I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played.
1) my points are clear you choose not to except them.
2)You never looked at all.
3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid.
4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys.
5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage?
6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable.
I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you?
http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm
Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate:
"The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of"
Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....
pile of nonsense again Im afraid
1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument
2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either.
3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying
4) no I didn't
5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing
6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand.
7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less
8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus
hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched.
so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.
1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head.
2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me.
3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar.
4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either?
5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them.
6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure?
7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96.
8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text.
Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is.
Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner.
Yeah, what I am saying is bogus
even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure.
Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch.
Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory.
We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] this is like talking to a brick wall , seriously, then again , hardcore fanboys can be like that. 1) I still don't get what youre saying, I suggest you make your points a bit clearer. 2) looked for sales figures, found nothing, so Im asking you to provide your own (credible) source, which you still haven't 3) no I didn't say that, try not to lie. 4) , how could the sales figures be both 250K and 200K at the same time :P , I have a feeling youre either not very smart, or making something up. 5) how could the fact that Gex sold alot, mean that every game sold less than 100? guess what, people buy more than one game. 6) yeah , 3DO has over 200 games, cool , whats you point? the difference between the evidence Ive brought , and the claims youre making , is that in an E3 press conference, one has to give accurate info regarding sales figures and such , after all , he has investors to think about. you on the other hand, bring no evidence, and its pretty obvious youre lying through your teeth , unless you can produce credible evidence for everything youre saying. thats about what I managed to understand from all of you post, [/QUOTE] You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you. I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played. 1) my points are clear you choose not to except them. 2)You never looked at all. 3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid. 4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys. 5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage? 6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable. I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you? http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate: "The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of" Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....[/QUOTE] pile of nonsense again Im afraid 1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument :P 2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either. 3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying 4) no I didn't 5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing 6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand. 7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less 8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched. so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.[/QUOTE] 1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head. 2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me. 3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar. 4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either? 5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them. 6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure? 7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96. 8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text. Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is. Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner. Yeah, what I am saying is bogus :roll: even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure. Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch. Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory. We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 2:19 pm GMTLordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:
You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you.
I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played.
1) my points are clear you choose not to except them.
2)You never looked at all.
3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid.
4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys.
5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage?
6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable.
I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you?
http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm
Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate:
"The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of"
Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....
pile of nonsense again Im afraid
1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument
2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either.
3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying
4) no I didn't
5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing
6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand.
7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less
8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus
hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched.
so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.
1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head.
2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me.
3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar.
4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either?
5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them.
6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure?
7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96.
8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text.
Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is.
Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner.
Yeah, what I am saying is bogus even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure.
Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch.
Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory.
We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.
lol, pile of nonsense yet again.
but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you
btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] You have to assume I am a fanboy because you failed the argument. It's you and your Saturn obsession that's messing with you. I gave you many chances to look up simple research to show your E3 video is total crap and 500000 units is not physically possible. Like companies(sony) have never lied to people before to boost sales. You know there's more info you just pretend no too look yet you put effort to find something against a system you never probably played. 1) my points are clear you choose not to except them. 2)You never looked at all. 3) No I didn;t lie you clearly said you would take his information and have a post unless you edited where you said "I am afraid that the 3DO did not sell 5 million units" indicating you would use his lying E3 conference which probably does not cover anything and probably for that year only maybe, or whatever the reason for 500000 is, but you did pretty much say it so stop being stupid. 4)I was clearly saying the sources I found put Gex at 200000 0r 250000 which would be half of your "500000" unit sales making 500000 improbable, but Saturn fanboy is a Saturn fanboy. It's like getting stabbed to death with you guys. 5) Yet using that logic how is 500000 a probable number? Self-ownage? 6) You brought no evidence, you used a circumstantial video with no other way to back it up at all, said you agreed with it, told me I lied when i said you did, and now all of a sudden in point 5, you self-own yourself knowing full well that number is not probable. I mean really? The damn 3DO sold over 500000 in Japan alone, and I can find that why can't you? http://gamedatamuseum.web.fc2.com/hardhistory.htm Scroll down, it says 3DO, highlight and translate: "The Panasonic 3DO Hikaru 720,000 units - March 20 1994 of" Yes it sold more than the Original Xbox. But remember it only sold 500,000..... Remmeber you have so much proof their, oh wait.....[/QUOTE] pile of nonsense again Im afraid 1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument :P 2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either. 3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying 4) no I didn't 5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing 6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand. 7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less 8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched. so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.[/QUOTE] 1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head. 2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me. 3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar. 4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either? 5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them. 6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure? 7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96. 8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text. Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is. Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner. Yeah, what I am saying is bogus :roll: even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure. Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch. Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory. We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.[/QUOTE] lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you :P btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less :P- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 2:27 pm GMTDarkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:
pile of nonsense again Im afraid
1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument
2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either.
3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying
4) no I didn't
5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing
6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand.
7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less
8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus
hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched.
so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.
1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head.
2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me.
3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar.
4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either?
5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them.
6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure?
7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96.
8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text.
Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is.
Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner.
Yeah, what I am saying is bogus even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure.
Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch.
Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory.
We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.
lol, pile of nonsense yet again.
but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you
btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less
Only a truly mentally ill person would call factual links with numbers nonsense and pretend they are not there when you can link to it.
Only a person who is mentally obsessed with plastic will insult people grammar, spell grammar wrong,. continue messing up with grammar, and then pretend he made no mistakes.
Only a person in desperation would claim to won a 3DO when he has no 3DO and if he does has no game experience with it, and brings it up as an effort to get away.
Only a person who has had brain damage, would go to the effort to find a vague E3 video and call all other sources nonsense when that is what the person asked for and claims it as evidence knowing full well its not.
Only a person in denial and has no will to live after a terrible humiliating defeat would run off after being prove he has no logical thinking skills and can't actually add numbers.
and to think, all that trble just to go against 3DO, terrible. Come back when you have something that actually goes against my posts. Also what fact have you even provided? Nonsense about facts? I have factual numbers and I can find links, where are all the links proving what you said? none actually, just that one youtube video.
Lol, at saying something showing the system in one region selling more than 500000 is not evidence it sold more than 500000.
Does it hurt when you fail? I mean I am just going to be honest here, your probably a terrible person in real life when you have to run off like a P8ssy like that and pretend things don't exist to make yourself look better. hopefully you mature when you become an adult.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] pile of nonsense again Im afraid 1) so youre saying he lied and inflated the numbers? youre not making it easy on your argument :P 2) no your points are not clear, neither is your English or grammer for that matter either. 3) I did look , youre the one who can't provide any evidence for what youre saying 4) no I didn't 5) then show me this source , so far youve posted nothing 6)no , I posted a video which has the president of the company , who would have the figures on hand. 7 ) then Im afraid it contradicts the statements made by the person selling the system , although quite honestly Im not even sure what this source is, seems like a random website to me, and in Japanese no less 8) what does it have to do with the Xbox? although as far as I know, the console sold more than that in Japan (the Xbox that is) , so it seems like the source you posted is potentially bogus hell, this article from 2003 , makes it clear that by Jul 2003, the Xbox sold over a million the Asia-Pacific region (which is really a codeword for Japan , South Korea) , so Im willing to bet the Xbox sold more than the figure you give by the end of it (and again , these are official sales figures) , since most of those million were from Japan , and thats less than a year after the console launched. so it seems like you still can't produce a decent source or evidence, and no evidence, means most of what youre saying is bogus.[/QUOTE] 1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head. 2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me. 3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar. 4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either? 5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them. 6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure? 7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96. 8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text. Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is. Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner. Yeah, what I am saying is bogus :roll: even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure. Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch. Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory. We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.[/QUOTE] lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you :P btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less :P[/QUOTE] Only a truly mentally ill person would call factual links with numbers nonsense and pretend they are not there when you can link to it. Only a person who is mentally obsessed with plastic will insult people grammar, spell grammar wrong,. continue messing up with grammar, and then pretend he made no mistakes. Only a person in desperation would claim to won a 3DO when he has no 3DO and if he does has no game experience with it, and brings it up as an effort to get away. Only a person who has had brain damage, would go to the effort to find a vague E3 video and call all other sources nonsense when that is what the person asked for and claims it as evidence knowing full well its not. Only a person in denial and has no will to live after a terrible humiliating defeat would run off after being prove he has no logical thinking skills and can't actually add numbers. and to think, all that trble just to go against 3DO, terrible. Come back when you have something that actually goes against my posts. Also what fact have you even provided? Nonsense about facts? I have factual numbers and I can find links, where are all the links proving what you said? none actually, just that one youtube video. Lol, at saying something showing the system in one region selling more than 500000 is not evidence it sold more than 500000. Does it hurt when you fail? I mean I am just going to be honest here, your probably a terrible person in real life when you have to run off like a P8ssy like that and pretend things don't exist to make yourself look better. hopefully you mature when you become an adult.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 2:33 pm GMTLordofinternet wrote:.Darkman2007 wrote:lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from youLordofinternet wrote:1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head. 2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me. 3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar. 4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either? 5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them. 6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure? 7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96. 8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text. Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is. Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner. Yeah, what I am saying is bogus even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure. Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch. Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory. We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy. btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't
[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] 1) are yoy saying people don't lie? Do I need to post Sony's record? maybe you just have no idea what you are talking about? Where is your evidence? Mine is consistent, most other sources have different numbers than him. Maybe you are just to clouded in the head. 2) Learn how to spell "grammar' then come back to me. 3) more grammar self-ownage for insulting my grammar. 4) What is this? You got your numbers mixed up. You can't count either? 5) I posted something obviously indicating you made this post without reading my post first because you are a dried out fanboy. You are not even looking how come I am finding things and you are not? Something tells me you are just going to bash each one of them. 6) I can post about a president of Sony, who talked about lies, and PR, which talked about lies, and some other administrators, that talked about lies. Also no, he could not have been honest about the figures, Do you know how easy it is to buy a 3DO? You really honestly think his number is correct? The 3Do outsold the Xbox in japan, which the Xbox sold over 500000 units in JAPAN and thats ONE region, so how is 500000 a legit sales figure? 7)It's a retail tracker website, which has completely accurate numbers at that point. And nothing had changed since it also included system sales way after the 3DO "died" in around 96. 8)Maybe number 7 will help you stop using rosecolored glasses to read text. Lol, first of all you apparently don't know what an ARTICLE is. Second of all I said "up to that point" and any intelligent person who can read numbers, or if they must, copy and paste (I know hard right) into translator, knows those are not all the final numbers. You lost go cry in a corner. Yeah, what I am saying is bogus :roll: even though the 3DO is not like the Jaguar, can be found all over, and I am finding links you cant seem to be finding except the one video that goes against the 3DO even just selling 1 million let alone 5 because you are ashamed of your piece of crap(imo) Saturn failure. Japan alone it sold more than 500000, , the 3DO sold more than the Xbox in Japan, which the latter also sold over that number. Also Japan actually had an exclusive 3DO version as well, which is not even counted in the source I linked. Then you have to realize that at the time it was out in Japan it was not as expensive as the U.S. and even UK initial launch. Then add.Gex has sold over 10 million as a series (I wonder if you can find that,) on consoles, and 3 is the best selling with around 5-6. Gex 2 did not get to 5, so how much did Gex one sell? Gex 1 didn't sell that well on other systems as much as the 3DO and playstation and Gex 2 got way more attention on the Playstation so using simple common sense there's a whole lot of wrong with your theory. We have not even involved things such as the EU and U.S. Sales as of yet, so it should be quite clear that there's something wrong with your video and if you actually still thing there isn't there's something wrong with you. unhealthy obsession is unhealthy.[/QUOTE] lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you :P btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less :P[/QUOTE] .[/QUOTE]
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't :P
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- Dec 19, 2012 2:58 pm GMTDarkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:.Darkman2007 wrote:lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't
Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video.
yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and if he does has no game experience with it."
i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] lol, pile of nonsense yet again. but I will let you stew in there for a while, seems like youre not only talking nonsense about facts, but even about things I said or didn't say, nevermind the fact there is still no evidence from you :P btw Im off to play some Need For Speed , on the 3DO no less :P[/QUOTE] .[/QUOTE]
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't :P
[/QUOTE] Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video. yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and [b]if he does[/b] has no game experience with it." i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 3:03 pm GMTLordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:.
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't
Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video.
yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and if he does has no game experience with it."
i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up.
youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it.
and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] .[/QUOTE]
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't :P
[/QUOTE] Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video. yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and [b]if he does[/b] has no game experience with it." i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up. [/QUOTE] youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it. and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 4:41 pm GMTDarkman2007 wrote:Lordofinternet wrote:Darkman2007 wrote:
you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't
Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video.
yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and if he does has no game experience with it."
i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up.
youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it.
and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.
No you have proven things to yourself.
You are literally telling me right here that the 750000 in the link I provided (up to that point) does not exist.
So what's your explanation? Narcotics? Alchohol? Medication?
I mean undeniably figures are right there.
Heck more?
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+Announces+Financial+Results+For+First+Quarter.-a017118759
In the link:
"To date, 3DO(TM) licensed product sales to consumers have totaled over half a billion dollars and hardware system sales to retailers exceeded 700,000 units worldwide."
Which if I recall Correctly, was their sales goal to pass, which they did, which means that world wide they exceeded 700,000 which is more than 500,000 but hey math and stuff we don't do that.
More:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+SALES+INCREASE+WITH+NEW+%24299+PRICE+POINT%3b+Low+Price%3b+Software...-a017338526
In the Link, improtant in Bold:
"Currently the hottest selling title for the 3DO platform is GEX with over 250,000 units manufactured, making it the best selling title for the 3DO platform ever. GEX follows other big hits for the 3DO platform including titles from Electronic Arts such as FIFA Soccer and Road Rash, and Panasonic's Super Street Fighter II, all of which have more than 150,000 units manufactured."
You then half to add the fact the global price drops, more High profile titles, like Need For spped, and titles like Need For Speed being featured in magazines, the software price drops, and the already multiplatform game software 3DO was already doing (although not with PS yet.)
Even indicating they didn't want to use the Saturn because it was old hardware.
But I bet that's just nonesense to right?
The 700000 is Aug in 95, which is when the 3DO started boosting since late 94 with increases constantly and constant price cuts.
The Saturn on the other hand: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sega+Saturn+price+drops+to+%24249+as+game+sales+surge.-a018136765
Struggle at 500000 in March of 96. and this is with price cuts and software cuts. and no real increases.
Then you have this:
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Costly+battle+for+share+in+video-game+arena.-a018350649
Which Mike states that after the cuts, which was in the same year as the 500000 thousand said Saturn sales tripled, but tripled is not 500000-600000, so most likely taking other regions sales, mostly japan, as an increase.
This clealry shows the 3DO was selling at a faster rate and had more units, then keep in mind the Saturn did at least get past one million a bit later, it would make sense that the 3Do at least sold a few million itself. This all clearly shows that the 3DO sold over 500000 either way so you can take your youtube video and stuff it.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]you still going? damn youre a troll.
and yes, I do indeed own a 3DO , an FZ-10, but apparently youve been to my house....and checked what I own and what I don't :P
[/QUOTE] Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video. yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and [b]if he does[/b] has no game experience with it." i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up. [/QUOTE] youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it. and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.[/QUOTE] No you have proven things to yourself. You are literally telling me right here that the 750000 in the link I provided (up to that point) does not exist. So what's your explanation? Narcotics? Alchohol? Medication? I mean undeniably figures are right there. Heck more? http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+Announces+Financial+Results+For+First+Quarter.-a017118759 In the link: "To date, 3DO(TM) licensed product sales to consumers have totaled over half a billion dollars and hardware system sales to retailers [b]exceeded[/b] 700,000 units worldwide." Which if I recall Correctly, was their sales goal to pass, which they did, which means that world wide they exceeded 700,000 which is more than 500,000 but hey math and stuff we don't do that. More: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+SALES+INCREASE+WITH+NEW+%24299+PRICE+POINT%3b+Low+Price%3b+Software...-a017338526 In the Link, improtant in Bold: "Currently the hottest selling title for the 3DO platform is GEX with over [b]250,000 units manufactured[/b], making it the best selling title for the 3DO platform ever. GEX follows other big hits for the 3DO platform including titles from Electronic Arts such as FIFA Soccer and Road Rash, and Panasonic's Super Street Fighter II, all of which have [b]more[/b] than 150,000 units manufactured." You then half to add the fact the global price drops, more High profile titles, like Need For spped, and titles like Need For Speed being featured in magazines, the software price drops, and the already multiplatform game software 3DO was already doing (although not with PS yet.) Even indicating they didn't want to use the Saturn because it was old hardware. But I bet that's just nonesense to right? The 700000 is Aug in 95, which is when the 3DO started boosting since late 94 with increases constantly and constant price cuts. The Saturn on the other hand: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sega+Saturn+price+drops+to+%24249+as+game+sales+surge.-a018136765 Struggle at 500000 in March of 96. and this is with price cuts and software cuts. and no real increases. Then you have this: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Costly+battle+for+share+in+video-game+arena.-a018350649 Which Mike states that after the cuts, which was in the same year as the 500000 thousand said Saturn sales tripled, but tripled is not 500000-600000, so most likely taking other regions sales, mostly japan, as an increase. This clealry shows the 3DO was selling at a faster rate and had more units, then keep in mind the Saturn did at least get past one million a bit later, it would make sense that the 3Do at least sold a few million itself. This all clearly shows that the 3DO sold over 500000 either way so you can take your youtube video and stuff it.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 19, 2012 4:54 pm GMT[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] Yep I am a troll. No actually it seems you are the one saying that factual physical link, which you already clicked on now suddenly does not exist and is not evidence over a vague youtube video. yeah, apparently been to your house? I said "when he has no 3DO and [b]if he does[/b] has no game experience with it." i like the lack of reading skills, I already proved that 500000 is wrong, time to give up. [/QUOTE] youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it. and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.[/QUOTE] No you have proven things to yourself. You are literally telling me right here that the 750000 in the link I provided (up to that point) does not exist. So what's your explanation? Narcotics? Alchohol? Medication? I mean undeniably figures are right there. Heck more? http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+Announces+Financial+Results+For+First+Quarter.-a017118759 In the link: "To date, 3DO(TM) licensed product sales to consumers have totaled over half a billion dollars and hardware system sales to retailers [b]exceeded[/b] 700,000 units worldwide." Which if I recall Correctly, was their sales goal to pass, which they did, which means that world wide they exceeded 700,000 which is more than 500,000 but hey math and stuff we don't do that. More: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+SALES+INCREASE+WITH+NEW+%24299+PRICE+POINT%3b+Low+Price%3b+Software...-a017338526 In the Link, improtant in Bold: "Currently the hottest selling title for the 3DO platform is GEX with over [b]250,000 units manufactured[/b], making it the best selling title for the 3DO platform ever. GEX follows other big hits for the 3DO platform including titles from Electronic Arts such as FIFA Soccer and Road Rash, and Panasonic's Super Street Fighter II, all of which have [b]more[/b] than 150,000 units manufactured." You then half to add the fact the global price drops, more High profile titles, like Need For spped, and titles like Need For Speed being featured in magazines, the software price drops, and the already multiplatform game software 3DO was already doing (although not with PS yet.) Even indicating they didn't want to use the Saturn because it was old hardware. But I bet that's just nonesense to right? The 700000 is Aug in 95, which is when the 3DO started boosting since late 94 with increases constantly and constant price cuts. The Saturn on the other hand: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sega+Saturn+price+drops+to+%24249+as+game+sales+surge.-a018136765 Struggle at 500000 in March of 96. and this is with price cuts and software cuts. and no real increases. Then you have this: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Costly+battle+for+share+in+video-game+arena.-a018350649 Which Mike states that after the cuts, which was in the same year as the 500000 thousand said Saturn sales tripled, but tripled is not 500000-600000, so most likely taking other regions sales, mostly japan, as an increase. This clealry shows the 3DO was selling at a faster rate and had more units, then keep in mind the Saturn did at least get past one million a bit later, it would make sense that the 3Do at least sold a few million itself. This all clearly shows that the 3DO sold over 500000 either way so you can take your youtube video and stuff it.[/QUOTE] youre still ranting about this? though as a side question how did 700K become 5 million? the figure you initially stated its pretty clear that this piece of news is from August 95, several months after that E3 conference with the 500K figure, so quite honestly, youre helping my argument seriously , either stop trolling, or get help , and I mean this in a nice way.
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:06 pm GMT[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youve proven things to yourself , thats about it, but hey, if youre happy with that, so be it. and yes I do indeed have experience with the 3DO , even with the limited 17 games or so that I own for it , which is frankly more than most people out there who don't own the system outright.[/QUOTE] No you have proven things to yourself. You are literally telling me right here that the 750000 in the link I provided (up to that point) does not exist. So what's your explanation? Narcotics? Alchohol? Medication? I mean undeniably figures are right there. Heck more? http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+Announces+Financial+Results+For+First+Quarter.-a017118759 In the link: "To date, 3DO(TM) licensed product sales to consumers have totaled over half a billion dollars and hardware system sales to retailers [b]exceeded[/b] 700,000 units worldwide." Which if I recall Correctly, was their sales goal to pass, which they did, which means that world wide they exceeded 700,000 which is more than 500,000 but hey math and stuff we don't do that. More: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+SALES+INCREASE+WITH+NEW+%24299+PRICE+POINT%3b+Low+Price%3b+Software...-a017338526 In the Link, improtant in Bold: "Currently the hottest selling title for the 3DO platform is GEX with over [b]250,000 units manufactured[/b], making it the best selling title for the 3DO platform ever. GEX follows other big hits for the 3DO platform including titles from Electronic Arts such as FIFA Soccer and Road Rash, and Panasonic's Super Street Fighter II, all of which have [b]more[/b] than 150,000 units manufactured." You then half to add the fact the global price drops, more High profile titles, like Need For spped, and titles like Need For Speed being featured in magazines, the software price drops, and the already multiplatform game software 3DO was already doing (although not with PS yet.) Even indicating they didn't want to use the Saturn because it was old hardware. But I bet that's just nonesense to right? The 700000 is Aug in 95, which is when the 3DO started boosting since late 94 with increases constantly and constant price cuts. The Saturn on the other hand: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sega+Saturn+price+drops+to+%24249+as+game+sales+surge.-a018136765 Struggle at 500000 in March of 96. and this is with price cuts and software cuts. and no real increases. Then you have this: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Costly+battle+for+share+in+video-game+arena.-a018350649 Which Mike states that after the cuts, which was in the same year as the 500000 thousand said Saturn sales tripled, but tripled is not 500000-600000, so most likely taking other regions sales, mostly japan, as an increase. This clealry shows the 3DO was selling at a faster rate and had more units, then keep in mind the Saturn did at least get past one million a bit later, it would make sense that the 3Do at least sold a few million itself. This all clearly shows that the 3DO sold over 500000 either way so you can take your youtube video and stuff it.[/QUOTE] youre still ranting about this? though as a side question how did 700K become 5 million? the figure you initially stated its pretty clear that this piece of news is from August 95, several months after that E3 conference with the 500K figure, so quite honestly, youre helping my argument seriously , either stop trolling, or get help , and I mean this in a nice way.[/QUOTE] Your point was that it sold 500,000. you have been beaten to the ground on this soo many times it's not even funny. It also does not help that I have several more links showing Gex selling 250000 and other games selling over 100000 during your e3 video and a quote that stated :they had 10 games with over 100000 sales. Which would also just help with how messed up your figure is. but you would just deny those as well. Also how did the Sega Saturns 500,000 quickly become nearly 2 million in nearly one year? So what your saying is the price cuts and lower software sales don't matter, it's impossible for the 3DO to sell a few million? Yet the Saturn can have a random push out? While I am not entirely sure how much the 3DO got toward 5 million, i know it outsold the Saturn, which was a point I made before, and even the PSX but that was at the start though. But that will probably go past your mind to huh? Maybe medication? What's your parents phone number? I need to talk to them about how much you humiliate yourself and raised improperly. Such as making fun of grammar and spelling it "grammer' and a bunch of other things you were proven wrong about but you omit every post because you are a sad person pretending to have 3DO experience. Dude go outside, get a life and such. Stop being a worthless nobody. Stop ignoring proof, go see a psychologist, something.
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:09 pm GMT
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:09 pm GMT[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] No you have proven things to yourself. You are literally telling me right here that the 750000 in the link I provided (up to that point) does not exist. So what's your explanation? Narcotics? Alchohol? Medication? I mean undeniably figures are right there. Heck more? http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+Announces+Financial+Results+For+First+Quarter.-a017118759 In the link: "To date, 3DO(TM) licensed product sales to consumers have totaled over half a billion dollars and hardware system sales to retailers [b]exceeded[/b] 700,000 units worldwide." Which if I recall Correctly, was their sales goal to pass, which they did, which means that world wide they exceeded 700,000 which is more than 500,000 but hey math and stuff we don't do that. More: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/3DO+SALES+INCREASE+WITH+NEW+%24299+PRICE+POINT%3b+Low+Price%3b+Software...-a017338526 In the Link, improtant in Bold: "Currently the hottest selling title for the 3DO platform is GEX with over [b]250,000 units manufactured[/b], making it the best selling title for the 3DO platform ever. GEX follows other big hits for the 3DO platform including titles from Electronic Arts such as FIFA Soccer and Road Rash, and Panasonic's Super Street Fighter II, all of which have [b]more[/b] than 150,000 units manufactured." You then half to add the fact the global price drops, more High profile titles, like Need For spped, and titles like Need For Speed being featured in magazines, the software price drops, and the already multiplatform game software 3DO was already doing (although not with PS yet.) Even indicating they didn't want to use the Saturn because it was old hardware. But I bet that's just nonesense to right? The 700000 is Aug in 95, which is when the 3DO started boosting since late 94 with increases constantly and constant price cuts. The Saturn on the other hand: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sega+Saturn+price+drops+to+%24249+as+game+sales+surge.-a018136765 Struggle at 500000 in March of 96. and this is with price cuts and software cuts. and no real increases. Then you have this: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Costly+battle+for+share+in+video-game+arena.-a018350649 Which Mike states that after the cuts, which was in the same year as the 500000 thousand said Saturn sales tripled, but tripled is not 500000-600000, so most likely taking other regions sales, mostly japan, as an increase. This clealry shows the 3DO was selling at a faster rate and had more units, then keep in mind the Saturn did at least get past one million a bit later, it would make sense that the 3Do at least sold a few million itself. This all clearly shows that the 3DO sold over 500000 either way so you can take your youtube video and stuff it.[/QUOTE] youre still ranting about this? though as a side question how did 700K become 5 million? the figure you initially stated its pretty clear that this piece of news is from August 95, several months after that E3 conference with the 500K figure, so quite honestly, youre helping my argument seriously , either stop trolling, or get help , and I mean this in a nice way.[/QUOTE] Your point was that it sold 500,000. you have been beaten to the ground on this soo many times it's not even funny. It also does not help that I have several more links showing Gex selling 250000 and other games selling over 100000 during your e3 video and a quote that stated :they had 10 games with over 100000 sales. Which would also just help with how messed up your figure is. but you would just deny those as well. Also how did the Sega Saturns 500,000 quickly become nearly 2 million in nearly one year? So what your saying is the price cuts and lower software sales don't matter, it's impossible for the 3DO to sell a few million? Yet the Saturn can have a random push out? While I am not entirely sure how much the 3DO got toward 5 million, i know it outsold the Saturn, which was a point I made before, and even the PSX but that was at the start though. But that will probably go past your mind to huh? Maybe medication? What's your parents phone number? I need to talk to them about how much you humiliate yourself and raised improperly. Such as making fun of grammar and spelling it "grammer' and a bunch of other things you were proven wrong about but you omit every post because you are a sad person pretending to have 3DO experience. Dude go outside, get a life and such. Stop being a worthless nobody. Stop ignoring proof, go see a psychologist, something.[/QUOTE] lol, you are really quite the troll.
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:12 pm GMT
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:27 pm GMT[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Why do you guys get so personal over a game discussion? [/QUOTE] When you have factual evidence showing something is false and a person with bad grammar makes fun of your grammar and insults you by calling names like "child" and "fanboy" prove him wrong, then said person omits all mistakes as if it never happaned and just calls you a troll, well at that point its personally because that's just freaking annoying. Darkman has failed, time for him to move on. But he's going to continue to pretend nothing that was posted exists to protect himself from humiliation, which is what he is doing anyway.
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:27 pm GMT[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]Why do you guys get so personal over a game discussion? [/QUOTE] When you have factual evidence showing something is false and a person with bad grammar makes fun of your grammar and insults you by calling names like "child" and "fanboy" prove him wrong, then said person omits all mistakes as if it never happaned and just calls you a troll, well at that point its personally because that's just freaking annoying. Darkman has failed, time for him to move on. But he's going to continue to pretend nothing that was posted exists to protect himself from humiliation, which is what he is doing anyway.
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:28 pm GMT[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] youre still ranting about this? though as a side question how did 700K become 5 million? the figure you initially stated its pretty clear that this piece of news is from August 95, several months after that E3 conference with the 500K figure, so quite honestly, youre helping my argument seriously , either stop trolling, or get help , and I mean this in a nice way.[/QUOTE] Your point was that it sold 500,000. you have been beaten to the ground on this soo many times it's not even funny. It also does not help that I have several more links showing Gex selling 250000 and other games selling over 100000 during your e3 video and a quote that stated :they had 10 games with over 100000 sales. Which would also just help with how messed up your figure is. but you would just deny those as well. Also how did the Sega Saturns 500,000 quickly become nearly 2 million in nearly one year? So what your saying is the price cuts and lower software sales don't matter, it's impossible for the 3DO to sell a few million? Yet the Saturn can have a random push out? While I am not entirely sure how much the 3DO got toward 5 million, i know it outsold the Saturn, which was a point I made before, and even the PSX but that was at the start though. But that will probably go past your mind to huh? Maybe medication? What's your parents phone number? I need to talk to them about how much you humiliate yourself and raised improperly. Such as making fun of grammar and spelling it "grammer' and a bunch of other things you were proven wrong about but you omit every post because you are a sad person pretending to have 3DO experience. Dude go outside, get a life and such. Stop being a worthless nobody. Stop ignoring proof, go see a psychologist, something.[/QUOTE] lol, you are really quite the troll.[/QUOTE] So you are saying the links I posted don't exist?
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- Dec 19, 2012 5:29 pm GMT[QUOTE="Lordofinternet"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Lordofinternet"] Your point was that it sold 500,000. you have been beaten to the ground on this soo many times it's not even funny. It also does not help that I have several more links showing Gex selling 250000 and other games selling over 100000 during your e3 video and a quote that stated :they had 10 games with over 100000 sales. Which would also just help with how messed up your figure is. but you would just deny those as well. Also how did the Sega Saturns 500,000 quickly become nearly 2 million in nearly one year? So what your saying is the price cuts and lower software sales don't matter, it's impossible for the 3DO to sell a few million? Yet the Saturn can have a random push out? While I am not entirely sure how much the 3DO got toward 5 million, i know it outsold the Saturn, which was a point I made before, and even the PSX but that was at the start though. But that will probably go past your mind to huh? Maybe medication? What's your parents phone number? I need to talk to them about how much you humiliate yourself and raised improperly. Such as making fun of grammar and spelling it "grammer' and a bunch of other things you were proven wrong about but you omit every post because you are a sad person pretending to have 3DO experience. Dude go outside, get a life and such. Stop being a worthless nobody. Stop ignoring proof, go see a psychologist, something.[/QUOTE] lol, you are really quite the troll.[/QUOTE] So you are saying the links I posted don't exist?[/QUOTE] no Im saying youre a troll, simple as that.
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