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    The game Hotline Miami has be pirated like crazy. This is the price to pay for making PC exclusives, and it is no wonder Crytek, CD Projekt, and other former PC-only developers crawl to consoles.

    GameSpot wrote:

    "It has been torrented to such a staggering level..."

    http://www.gamespot.com/news/hotline-miami-pirated-at-extraordinary-levels-6401453

    Edited on Dec 12, 2012 10:46 am GMT

    The game Hotline Miami has be pirated like crazy. This is the price to pay for making PC exclusives, and it is no wonder Crytek, CD Projekt, and other former PC-only developers crawl to consoles.

    [quote="GameSpot"]

    "It has been torrented to such a staggering level..."

    [/quote]

    [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/news/hotline-miami-pirated-at-extraordinary-levels-6401453[/URL]

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    Dec 12, 2012 10:46 am GMT
    It happens.
    It happens.
  • Level 45
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:48 am GMT
    No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.
    No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.
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    I bought on last steam sale, still need to play it ...
    I bought on last steam sale, still need to play it ...
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    Loegi wrote:
    No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.

    [QUOTE="Loegi"]No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.[/QUOTE]

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.

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    Dec 12, 2012 10:50 am GMT
    "Struthers said he is not aware of specific piracy figures for Hotline Miami, but regardless, he is not particularly perturbed by the illegal downloading. In fact, developer Jonatan Söderström even released a legitimate patch for pirated versions of Hotline Miami because "he didn't want people playing the buggy version of his game however they got it.""

    True developer support, what a great guy! Any pirates you should be ashamed, support gaming and esp great devs!
    "Struthers said he is not aware of specific piracy figures for Hotline Miami, but regardless, he is not particularly perturbed by the illegal downloading. In fact, developer Jonatan Söderström even released a legitimate patch for pirated versions of Hotline Miami because "he didn't want people playing the buggy version of his game however they got it."" True developer support, what a great guy! Any pirates you should be ashamed, support gaming and esp great devs!
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:51 am GMT
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:

    Loegi wrote:
    No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.


    That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.
    [QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

    [QUOTE="Loegi"]No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.[/QUOTE]

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.

    [/QUOTE] That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:53 am GMT
    Loegi wrote:
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:

    Loegi wrote:
    No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.


    That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.


    What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?
    [QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

    [QUOTE="Loegi"]No proof, he doesn't even seem annoyed, and he even says it himself that the source he's claiming isn't accurate.[/QUOTE]

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.

    [/QUOTE] That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.[/QUOTE] What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:54 am GMT
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:
    Loegi wrote:
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.


    That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.


    What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?

    That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.
    [QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"][QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

    The piracy of Hotline: Miami is well known. The devs even went to the Pirate Bay and provided a patched version because they didn't want people to play a bugged one that was uploaded.

    [/QUOTE] That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.[/QUOTE] What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?[/QUOTE] That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:55 am GMT

    Hence why they announced a sequel for the game.

    Hence why they announced a sequel for the game.

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    Loegi wrote:
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:
    Loegi wrote:

    That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.


    What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?

    That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.


    So this game was never pirated...that's just as baseless as his claim and I'm more inclined to believe him because its' a very easy game to go pirate.
    [QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"][QUOTE="Loegi"] That isn't proof, and like he said himself, the pirate bay isn't accurate at all for this game especially.[/QUOTE] What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?[/QUOTE] That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.[/QUOTE] So this game was never pirated...that's just as baseless as his claim and I'm more inclined to believe him because its' a very easy game to go pirate.
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    Goes to show how sh!tty pc gaming is
    Goes to show how sh!tty pc gaming is
  • Level 45
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:57 am GMT
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:
    Loegi wrote:
    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:


    What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?

    That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.


    So this game was never pirated...that's just as baseless as his claim and I'm more inclined to believe him because its' a very easy game to go pirate.

    I never said that.
    [QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"][QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"] What exactly are you arguing. That this game wasn't attacked by piracy, or his claim of how many times it was pirated?[/QUOTE] That he's making baseless claims. Like almost every article about piracy.[/QUOTE] So this game was never pirated...that's just as baseless as his claim and I'm more inclined to believe him because its' a very easy game to go pirate.[/QUOTE] I never said that.
  • Level 44
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    Two man team

    130k copies sold

    announces sequel

    Dev annihilated?

    Two man team 130k copies sold announces sequel Dev annihilated?
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:59 am GMT
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.
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    Dec 12, 2012 11:01 am GMT

    lowe0 wrote:
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.

    There's such a crowd? He obviously did nothing to deserve his game getting pirated but ugh people like stuff free, so go figure.

    Edited on Dec 12, 2012 11:14 am GMT

    [QUOTE="lowe0"]I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.[/QUOTE]

    There's such a crowd? He obviously did nothing to deserve his game getting pirated but ugh people like stuff free, so go figure.

  • Level 45
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    Dec 12, 2012 11:03 am GMT

    lowe0 wrote:
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?

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    Miketheman83 wrote:
    You're asking for proof for something that cannot be proven, but it could also not be any more obvious.

    [QUOTE="lowe0"]I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.[/QUOTE]

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    [url]http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway[/url]

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?

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    Dec 12, 2012 11:06 am GMT
    Rocker6 wrote:

    lowe0 wrote:
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?



    That's not really what he's saying though.

    He gave them a new patch because he didn't want people to play a buggy version of the game and bad mouth it, which could ruin potential sales. I don't necessarily agree with them for giving pirates a patch, but if they care about the quality of their game that much, so be it. It's just a shame that this game was only $10 and people weren't willing to give it a go legally. It's a great game and it's been on sale quite a few times for $5. Buy it and support indie devs...
    [QUOTE="Rocker6"]

    [QUOTE="lowe0"]I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.[/QUOTE]

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    [url]http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway[/url]

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?

    [/QUOTE] That's not really what he's saying though. He gave them a new patch because he didn't want people to play a buggy version of the game and bad mouth it, which could ruin potential sales. I don't necessarily agree with them for giving pirates a patch, but if they care about the quality of their game that much, so be it. It's just a shame that this game was only $10 and people weren't willing to give it a go legally. It's a great game and it's been on sale quite a few times for $5. Buy it and support indie devs...
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    MFDOOM1983 wrote:
    Two man team

    130k copies sold

    announces sequel

    Dev annihilated?
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    [QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Two man team 130k copies sold announces sequel Dev annihilated?[/QUOTE]
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    Dec 12, 2012 11:08 am GMT

    DontGetBigIdeas wrote:
    Rocker6 wrote:

    lowe0 wrote:
    I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?

    That's not really what he's saying though. He gave them a new patch because he didn't want people to play a buggy version of the game and bad mouth it, which could ruin potential sales. I don't necessarily agree with them for giving pirates a patch, but if they care about the quality of their game that much, so be it. It's just a shame that this game was only $10 and people weren't willing to give it a go legally. It's a great game and it's been on sale quite a few times for $5. Buy it and support indie devs...

    I'm not claiming that's what the developers directly said, I'm just claiming that's how the general audience sees things...

    Also, I haven't played it yet, but I'm planning to get it from GoG when I have a time for a playthrough...

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    Bruce_Benzing wrote:
    Arguing with a Cow is like playing Chess with a Pigeon, it will knock down all the pieces, crap on the board and then run back to the flock proclaiming victory...

    Miketheman83 wrote:
    You're asking for proof for something that cannot be proven, but it could also not be any more obvious.

    [QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

    [QUOTE="lowe0"]I'd love for the piracy-is-justifiable crowd to explain to me what he did to deserve this.[/QUOTE]

    Keep in mind, this is the developer who offered troubleshooting advices about the game on torrent sites...

    [url]http://kotaku.com/5955066/they-pirated-his-game-but-this-developer-is-giving-tech-support-anyway[/url]

    Every game, both on PC and on consoles gets pirated to an extent, but if you go ahead and make a move like this, well, you're basically saying:

    "Go ahead and pirate our game, we don't want your money, and we have no problems with it!"

    Not the best decision from a business standpoint, wouldn't you agree?

    [/QUOTE] That's not really what he's saying though. He gave them a new patch because he didn't want people to play a buggy version of the game and bad mouth it, which could ruin potential sales. I don't necessarily agree with them for giving pirates a patch, but if they care about the quality of their game that much, so be it. It's just a shame that this game was only $10 and people weren't willing to give it a go legally. It's a great game and it's been on sale quite a few times for $5. Buy it and support indie devs...[/QUOTE]

    I'm not claiming that's what the developers directly said, I'm just claiming that's how the general audience sees things...

    Also, I haven't played it yet, but I'm planning to get it from GoG when I have a time for a playthrough...

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