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Obama taking more dividend gains
- Dec 11, 2012 2:23 pm GMT[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
Do you think anyone here is going to care unless it affects them personally?
[/QUOTE] Just sit back and praise Jesus.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 11, 2012 9:04 pm GMT
[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]Obama is a disaster.
Libs won't learn until the western world collapses under its own weight.
[/QUOTE] Sad but true[/QUOTE]- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 11, 2012 9:10 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
how exactly?
[/QUOTE] by discouraging people from investing[/QUOTE]
Why does this discourage people from investing? What alternative are they going to use to make money?
[/QUOTE] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
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- Dec 11, 2012 9:26 pm GMT
"everything is amazing right now, and nobody's happy" -louis c.k.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] by discouraging people from investing[/QUOTE]
Why does this discourage people from investing? What alternative are they going to use to make money?
[/QUOTE] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
[/QUOTE] clothing factory workers in bangladesh are thankful for that.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 11, 2012 9:35 pm GMT
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Laihendi wrote:The notion that children are entitled to benefit from government services designed exclusively for them at the expense of taxpaying adults is absurd and is a manifestation of the moocher welfare mentality that is a plague in this society. It is the responsibility of parents to raise children, not government and not taxpayers either.Says the kid that goes to a public university.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] by discouraging people from investing[/QUOTE]
Why does this discourage people from investing? What alternative are they going to use to make money?
[/QUOTE] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
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So you think wealthy people are just going to up and move to thailand in droves? Sounds unlikely
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- Dec 11, 2012 9:55 pm GMT_______________________________________________________________
[QUOTE="moneymatterz"][QUOTE="XaosII"]
[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
What if, like, taxes take away from the profit margin, though???
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Then you are running a bad business when you are more concerned about the taxes on your profit than how you earn that profit.
I have a sense that you have ZERO idea how a business works. Let me school you:
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I lol'd
[/QUOTE] To be fair you've been wrong in pretty much everything you've ever said that we here on Gamespot can observe so I can't say I blame him for that assumption...- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 11, 2012 10:17 pm GMT
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
[QUOTE="XaosII"]
Then you are running a bad business when you are more concerned about the taxes on your profit than how you earn that profit.
I have a sense that you have ZERO idea how a business works. Let me school you:
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I lol'd
[/QUOTE] To be fair you've been wrong in pretty much everything you've ever said that we here on Gamespot can observe so I can't say I blame him for that assumption...[/QUOTE]
Let's be honest. I've been pretty spot-on about the nature of Liberalism and its adherents, in this thread and many others.
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- Dec 11, 2012 10:21 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
Why does this discourage people from investing? What alternative are they going to use to make money?
[/QUOTE] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
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So you think wealthy people are just going to up and move to thailand in droves? Sounds unlikely
[/QUOTE] The world is not broken down into united states and Thailand, but believe what you want. if i had a few mill i would move to the Republic Myanmar, they have recently opened up (2010)and back before it became a series of military dictatorships, it was the riches Asian country. there is more money to be made there than anywhere here in America or Europe as far as investment opportunities are concerned and the list does not end with them.
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- Dec 11, 2012 10:36 pm GMT
Where did all these conservatives pop up from? Anyway my argument when raising this and capital gains taxes....what about the beloved old people who both sides shameless try to pander in any way possible. A lot of old people and retirees get that from investments.....so raising taxes on that leaves them with less money......
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- Dec 11, 2012 10:41 pm GMT
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
Why does this discourage people from investing? What alternative are they going to use to make money?
[/QUOTE] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
[/QUOTE] clothing factory workers in bangladesh are thankful for that.[/QUOTE] your boys battery company A123, that got a huge bailout, was just purchased by china. so if you dont care about heavy industry or consumer product industries, do you care about producing anything or do you think people will just let america print and buy forever without anything in return?
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- Dec 11, 2012 10:42 pm GMT_______________________________________________________________[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
I lol'd
[/QUOTE] To be fair you've been wrong in pretty much everything you've ever said that we here on Gamespot can observe so I can't say I blame him for that assumption...[/QUOTE]
Let's be honest. I've been pretty spot-on about the nature of Liberalism and its adherents, in this thread and many others.
[/QUOTE] Well at least you don't contest that you're wrong about everything all the time.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 11, 2012 10:46 pm GMT
[QUOTE="AdamPA1006"]
Where did all these conservatives pop up from? Anyway my argument when raising this and capital gains taxes....what about the beloved old people who both sides shameless try to pander in any way possible. A lot of old people and retirees get that from investments.....so raising taxes on that leaves them with less money......
[/QUOTE] It's only higher taxes on income over 250k any income up to that point will still benefit from the bush era tax cuts. So for example if you have 1 million in cap gains, only 750k of that will be taxed at the new rate. Most retirement portfolios aren't worth this much money, but it's not the drastic change so many want to proclaim. It's like winning the lottery and then complaining that you have to pay taxes on that money, how can you miss what you never really had in the first place?
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- Dec 12, 2012 9:48 am GMT
[QUOTE="XaosII"]
[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
[QUOTE="XaosII"]Business decisions are not made based on taxes, they are made on what brings in profit.
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What if, like, taxes take away from the profit margin, though???
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Then you are running a bad business when you are more concerned about the taxes on your profit than how you earn that profit.
I have a sense that you have ZERO idea how a business works. Let me school you:
Megacorp earns 2 million in profit one year. If Megacorp does nothing, they will pay %35 on that and owe $700,000 in taxes. If Megacorp reinvests 1 million back into their company before the end of the year, they only pay 1 million worth in taxes - in this case $350,000.
A smart business will maximize their profits without regard to taxes, because reinvesting that money is always a better decision.
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Lol no.
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- Dec 12, 2012 12:15 pm GMTthe clothing factory burned to the ground, over a hundred people died because there were not proper exits in the building. i was being sarcasticsurrealnumber5 wrote:your boys battery company A123, that got a huge bailout, was just purchased by china. so if you dont care about heavy industry or consumer product industries, do you care about producing anything or do you think people will just let america print and buy forever without anything in return?comp_atkins wrote:clothing factory workers in bangladesh are thankful for that.surrealnumber5 wrote:the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
"everything is amazing right now, and nobody's happy" -louis c.k.
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] the united states is not the world, just because taxes go up here does not mean they do so everywhere else, notice how manufacturing has been moved abroad, that is because 'our' regulations dont reach foreign shores.
[/QUOTE] clothing factory workers in bangladesh are thankful for that.[/QUOTE] your boys battery company A123, that got a huge bailout, was just purchased by china. so if you dont care about heavy industry or consumer product industries, do you care about producing anything or do you think people will just let america print and buy forever without anything in return?
[/QUOTE] the clothing factory burned to the ground, over a hundred people died because there were not proper exits in the building. i was being sarcastic :P- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 12, 2012 12:48 pm GMT
[QUOTE="moneymatterz"]
Let's be honest. I've been pretty spot-on about the nature of Liberalism and its adherents, in this thread and many others.
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Let's be honest. You've been acting like a child, so i've treated you like one. Its only fair.
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- Dec 12, 2012 1:24 pm GMT
What's the average income tax rate? Isn't that pretty high? We should just make a flat tax code that doesn't let people get out of paying taxes.
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- Dec 12, 2012 1:25 pm GMT
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Laihendi wrote:The notion that children are entitled to benefit from government services designed exclusively for them at the expense of taxpaying adults is absurd and is a manifestation of the moocher welfare mentality that is a plague in this society. It is the responsibility of parents to raise children, not government and not taxpayers either.Says the kid that goes to a public university.
[QUOTE="GIJames248"]
What's the average income tax rate? Isn't that pretty high? We should just make a flat tax code that doesn't let people get out of paying taxes.
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flat income taxes are a terrible idea. How do people not understand this?
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- Dec 12, 2012 1:26 pm GMT
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="GIJames248"]
What's the average income tax rate? Isn't that pretty high? We should just make a flat tax code that doesn't let people get out of paying taxes.
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flat income taxes are a terrible idea. How do people not understand this?
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Isn't everyone getting the same military protection, used of the roads, and legal process as everyone else?
It seems pretty common sense to me. It's not like everyone is paying the same amount of taxes.
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- Dec 12, 2012 1:40 pm GMT
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Laihendi wrote:The notion that children are entitled to benefit from government services designed exclusively for them at the expense of taxpaying adults is absurd and is a manifestation of the moocher welfare mentality that is a plague in this society. It is the responsibility of parents to raise children, not government and not taxpayers either.Says the kid that goes to a public university.
[QUOTE="GIJames248"]
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]
[QUOTE="GIJames248"]
What's the average income tax rate? Isn't that pretty high? We should just make a flat tax code that doesn't let people get out of paying taxes.
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flat income taxes are a terrible idea. How do people not understand this?
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Isn't everyone getting the same military protection, used of the roads, and legal process as everyone else?
It seems pretty common sense to me. It's not like everyone is paying the same amount of taxes.
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It only seems common sense because you don't understand how the economy actually works.
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