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Why nothing even comes close to the PC right now...
- Dec 9, 2012 1:57 am GMT
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Season Finale on May 1[QUOTE="Primordialous"]tl;dr- PC is superior. We know. We hear it every day.
[/QUOTE] Then hear it more peasants.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 2:16 am GMT
Honestly I'll take a PC ownage thread over another Uncharted 3 Vs Gears of War thread. That plus any sort of "Console Graphics King" which seemingly means you take second place? even though its more like 39th place... but yeah. For me personally atleast PC threads tend to bring games that are something bigger and better than what is already out there. Console threads tend to be the best of a bad situation.
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- Dec 9, 2012 2:52 am GMT
GT: LAMEIRAS 360
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Now playing:
The Witcher 2 (dark mode)
Most antecipated games:
GTAV, Battlefield 4, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and SW Battlefront 3
Most antecipated console:
Playstation 4
Hmm....because current consoles are almost a decade old? Next gen games will probably be neck to neck with PC ones for the first few years.
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- Dec 9, 2012 3:20 am GMT
Quickly! Think of a good sig. Everyone's counting on you.
Way more frames on my dual core Pentium G860 than my quad core Phenom II X4 840. Both are on radeon 7850s.
The game's good. Actually very n00b friendly. I killed some people.
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- Dec 9, 2012 3:22 am GMT
3 for sight. 2 for sound. 1 for the touch. And you're out for the count.
Advance mind control for a better future.[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...[/QUOTE]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc
Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.
Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.
[/QUOTE] next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
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~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 3:38 am GMT
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hermits are trolls, most are anyways.[/QUOTE]most people here are trolls, hermits or otherwise.
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- Dec 9, 2012 3:51 am GMTiamrob7 wrote:GamingVengeance wrote:looks even better at 1440piamrob7 wrote:
Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.
That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.
12 mb RAM?
[QUOTE="iamrob7"][QUOTE="GamingVengeance"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]
Yeah unfortunate as it is a nice clip. Game looks epic with high settings at 1080p, I think that comes across well when you watch it in the small window.
[/QUOTE] looks even better at 1440p :P[/QUOTE]
That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.
[/QUOTE] 12 mb RAM?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 4:06 am GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]
[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...[/QUOTE]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc
Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.
Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.
[/QUOTE] next gen ~ $400 console
[/QUOTE] I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
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~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 4:23 am GMT
3 for sight. 2 for sound. 1 for the touch. And you're out for the count.
Advance mind control for a better future.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]
[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc
Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.
Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.
[/QUOTE] next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
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~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.[/QUOTE] I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.[/QUOTE] I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 4:36 am GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
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~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.[/QUOTE] I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.[/QUOTE] I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
[/QUOTE] I'm looking to build a pc next year. I'd either she'll out for a really nice LCD panel, or go plasma. Consumer LCD displays are atrocious.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 4:52 am GMT
3 for sight. 2 for sound. 1 for the touch. And you're out for the count.
Advance mind control for a better future.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Heirren"] I payed $299 for a ps3, and have spent $60 on a game under five times. With online vendors like amazon, it's rather common to get newer releases for $39. Oddly enough, with October/November being a popular relapse window, new games in that time frame often drop to $25-$30 for the shopping season. Pc confuses me. First, getting the great visuals and framerates with not having to upgrade for a minute costs some money and research. Second, I often hear that people game on monitors higher than 1080p. Now, I'm fully aware that there are monitors with very high resolutions, but is is a fact that a plasma gives better motion and color accuracy. ....and those pro LCD panels are very very expensive.[/QUOTE] I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
[/QUOTE] I'm looking to build a pc next year. I'd either she'll out for a really nice LCD panel, or go plasma. Consumer LCD displays are atrocious. [/QUOTE] If you're going to sit within 1.5 foot distance I would advice to not go bigger than a 24 inch. Or at least, it's not really necessary because you might have to start moving your head around to see what is happening in corners of the screen.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 5:51 am GMT
CPU: i7 3770 @3.4GHz + Zalman CNPS9900MAX-R CPU Cooler Red LED
GPU: SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6GB 7970 GHz Edition
MB: ASUS P8Z77-M
RAM: Crucial Ballistix Tactical 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
PSU: CORSAIR HX750
CASE: Cooler Master 932 HAF Advanced
MONITOR: ASUS VW246H (to be upgraded to three monitors in the future)
MOUSE: SteelSeries Diablo III mouse
KEYBOARD: Microsoft Sidewinder X4
[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]
[QUOTE="Heirren"]I'm probably going to build a gaming pc around the time the next consoles launch. I don't kid myself, though. Building a gaming of, right, is expensive. $300 for a gaming pc? Lol, how?! Please explain. First, saving money at the start just means that more money will be spent down the line. ...[/QUOTE]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc
Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.
Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.
[/QUOTE] next gen ~ $400 console
[/QUOTE] More like $300 for the system (is what I paid for my ps3), $0 for online, and 15 games per year at $10-$20 each. That vs $1,800+ to build the new PC I am currently working on. Suddenly PC gaming doesn't look even close. Console gaming is cheaper unless you are one of the many fools who buy consoles when they first release at full price as well as pay full price for games instead of wait til they are $20 or buying used. Or you aren't too serious about your gaming and buy a cheap (already outdated) PC that will need to be upgraded a lot sooner. Then PC gaming might be cheaper.
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
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~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 6:12 am GMT
"Dear MacGyver, enclosed is a rubber band, a paper clip and a drinking straw. Please save my dog."
Yeah, the game has an impressive scale. Too bad that it's simply not fun. Played it once, cursed myself for downloading it and went back to Orcs must die 2 and Torchlight 2.
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- Dec 9, 2012 6:25 am GMTfend_oblivion wrote:12 mb RAM?iamrob7 wrote:GamingVengeance wrote:looks even better at 1440p
That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.
lol, typo, 12GB.
[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]
[QUOTE="GamingVengeance"] looks even better at 1440p :P[/QUOTE]
That game would rape my PC at 1440p. I have a 3770k @4.6Ghz, 12mb RAM and an overclocked GTX 580, planetside 2 still struggles to maintain 50+fps in big battles at high settings 1080p. I can only imagine what this game would be like with a triple 30" monitor setup with the hardware to back it up.
[/QUOTE] 12 mb RAM?[/QUOTE]
lol, typo, 12GB.
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- Dec 9, 2012 6:26 am GMT
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]
[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/df-hardware-introducing-the-digital-foundry-pc
Here is a £300 PC built by Digital foundry 5-6 months ago that will deliver multiplats at slightly higher settings and almost double the framerate of their console counterparts. The same PC will be around £100 cheaper by now.
Depends what you want though, if you want the ultra settings in super high resolution @60 FPS you are going to have to pay for it. If you are satisfied with something just quite a bit better than what the current consoles provide you don't have to pay much at all and that PC will last just as long as this current console generation lasts because those multiplats are limited by the consoles.
[/QUOTE] next gen ~ $400 console
$50 * 5 year gen ~ $250 for online
15 games per year * 5 year gen ~ $750 license fee
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +
~ $1400 PC hardware (no screen) budget per 5 year gen
I don't get why people think PC is that more expensive? It's cheaper for most gamers. Some places in my country offer you to pay your PC in 12 months. Maybe that could soften the blow if you don't have that kind of cash to spend right at the start of a gen.[/QUOTE] More like $300 for the system (is what I paid for my ps3), $0 for online, and 15 games per year at $10-$20 each. That vs $1,800+ to build the new PC I am currently working on. Suddenly PC gaming doesn't look even close. Console gaming is cheaper unless you are one of the many fools who buy consoles when they first release at full price as well as pay full price for games instead of wait til they are $20 or buying used. Or you aren't too serious about your gaming and buy a cheap (already outdated) PC that will need to be upgraded a lot sooner. Then PC gaming might be cheaper.[/QUOTE]
If all you want is a PC that can deliver multiplats in superior graphical settings and at a superior framerate to your PS3, $300 is more than enough.
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- Dec 9, 2012 6:29 am GMT
Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A
That actually looks really cool. Very dynamic and engaging.
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- Dec 9, 2012 6:42 am GMTThat game does look pretty sweet. Right now though I'm playing through Uncharted 2 for the first time!
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That game does look pretty sweet. Right now though I'm playing through Uncharted 2 for the first time! :D- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 7:01 am GMTAndross's enemy...is my enemy[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] I suppose in the USA consoles and console games get discounts very fast, in europe I can find PC games about 15 euro's cheaper consistently than console games. Which makes sense because you don't pay for license fees. I don't really understand how console games could be cheaper. There are online forums that help people who are trying to put together the right PC components. It's not something that you have to figure out, and I wouldn't try go beyond 1080p for some time unless you're rilly rich.
You could just hook up the PC to a TV if you prefer those. I wouldn't go plasma though, they devour electricity and burn in/ghost easily.[/QUOTE] I'm looking to build a pc next year. I'd either she'll out for a really nice LCD panel, or go plasma. Consumer LCD displays are atrocious. [/QUOTE] If you're going to sit within 1.5 foot distance I would advice to not go bigger than a 24 inch. Or at least, it's not really necessary because you might have to start moving your head around to see what is happening in corners of the screen.[/QUOTE] Oh I would never sit that close if I used a plasma. If I did go LCD I'd get the best panel size for the, give or take, 2ft viewing distance. I understand what you are saying and agree with you. In a lot of cases a smaller monitor for pc games is better.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 8:08 am GMT[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="iamrob7"]
I lose track of who cows are, are they Xbox gamers or PS3 gamers? They all seem the same to me.
Anyway, just celebrating the complete and total victory of the PC as a platform, isn't that what system wars is about? You know, which system is best.
[/QUOTE] If your system were universally superior, wouldn't most of us have switched by now? It's not like we can't find a Fry's.[/QUOTE]
Most of "you" don't actually comprehend the situation. Some are in denial, some are delusional and many are just confused.
[/QUOTE] A difference of opinion is not the same as a lack of comprehension.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Dec 9, 2012 8:19 am GMT
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[QUOTE="iamrob7"]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWe83bud1A
One of the many PC exclusives that are really putting the PC in a completely different league to consoles right now. It will be nice when new consoles get released and SW can hopefully see some sort of competition for the PC again, at least for a while. Right now the PC is so dominant it has almost become embarassing to even mention it. It's like Mike Tyson picking a fight with a 10 year old girl.
With Valve announcing their convenient PC for the living room, I don't really see what consoles have left? The PC dominates in every single area, the most games, the best games in every genre except perhaps sports, the most high scoring exclusives, the best graphics, the best sound, the greatest versatility/variety (mods) etc, the best version of every multiplatform game...
The only thing consoles had left was the convenience of playing on your couch without having to set things up. Now that is gone, what is left for consoles? Expense? Well consoles are cheap I suppose, but you can get a PC for $200-250 now that will play any multiplat in higher graphical settings than any console. Plus with the expense of console games compared to PC games I don't really see much of a cost difference right now.
So that's it then, the last thing console gamers could cling to has gone, the PC has crushed them under its mighty boot. What now for hermits on SW?
[/QUOTE]$200-$250? You can probably buy a PC for that money, but I doubt you'll be able to run much of any games at all on it.
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