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Why was Lords of Shadow "wrong"?

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  • MBirdy88
     
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:51 am GMT
    I enjoyed it, and this is coming from someone who hates devil may cry and god of war.

    Lords of Shadow has so much more charm, though admittedly repetitive often.

    Love the new lore, beats the crap out of the old ones in that department.
    I enjoyed it, and this is coming from someone who hates devil may cry and god of war. Lords of Shadow has so much more charm, though admittedly repetitive often. Love the new lore, beats the crap out of the old ones in that department.
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  • TheGuardian03
     
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:55 am GMT
    i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.


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    i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.
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    Dec 7, 2012 11:55 am GMT
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.

    Nice!

    I thought so too.
    [QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.[/QUOTE] Nice! I thought so too.
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    Atleast you aren't as annoying as that part of the DMC fanbase being crybabies for the new DMC.

    (and it's a big portion of the fanbase)

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    Atleast you aren't as annoying as that part of the DMC fanbase being crybabies for the new DMC.

    (and it's a big portion of the fanbase)

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    GreekGameManiac wrote:

    Atleast you aren't as annoying as that part of the DMC fanbase being crybabies for the new DMC.



    I'm a huge DMC fan and can't wait to see how the new game turns out.

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    Atleast you aren't as annoying as that part of the DMC fanbase being crybabies for the new DMC.

    [/QUOTE] I'm a huge DMC fan and can't wait to see how the new game turns out.
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    AcidSoldner wrote:
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    I though it was a great game and a good Castlevania game as well. Those that seemed to dislike LoS are those fans who started with Symphony of the Night while those who enjoyed it are fans of the earlier Castlevanias. Just something I noticed within the Castlevania community.

    You noticed this as well? Thought it was only me.

    Yeah, there seems to be a (stupid) consensus with "newer" Castlevania fans, especially around here, that metroidvania is the only way to make a Castlevania game. Castlevania was a pretty linear affair before SoTN.

    I know right? MercurySteam even said it would be like the old CVs and not like metroidvania, and the whining keeps continuing about it "not being a CV game"

    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]I though it was a great game and a good Castlevania game as well. Those that seemed to dislike LoS are those fans who started with Symphony of the Night while those who enjoyed it are fans of the earlier Castlevanias. Just something I noticed within the Castlevania community.[/QUOTE]

    You noticed this as well? Thought it was only me.

    [/QUOTE]Yeah, there seems to be a (stupid) consensus with "newer" Castlevania fans, especially around here, that metroidvania is the only way to make a Castlevania game. Castlevania was a pretty linear affair before SoTN.[/QUOTE]

    I know right? MercurySteam even said it would be like the old CVs and not like metroidvania, and the whining keeps continuing about it "not being a CV game"

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    freedomfreak wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.

    Nice!

    I thought so too.


    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.


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    [QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.[/QUOTE] Nice! I thought so too.[/QUOTE] gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.
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    Dec 7, 2012 12:12 pm GMT
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    freedomfreak wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.

    Nice!

    I thought so too.


    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.

    I can agree with that.
    [QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]i enjoyed it, it was better than god of war 3.[/QUOTE] Nice! I thought so too.[/QUOTE] gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] I can agree with that.
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    Dec 7, 2012 12:14 pm GMT

    freedomfreak wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    freedomfreak wrote:
    Nice! I thought so too.
    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.
    I can agree with that.

    All games do that.

    There's no such a thing as an "original game".

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    [QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] Nice! I thought so too.[/QUOTE] gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] I can agree with that.[/QUOTE]

    All games do that.

    There's no such a thing as an "original game".

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    Dec 7, 2012 12:14 pm GMT

    There wasn't a decent soundtrack.

    That's what felt wrong about it to me, also some of the level design was awful.

    combat system wasn't anything special either.

    I liked it alot at first, but within the next few hours of playing I just couldn't shake how Meh it all felt.

    Edited on Dec 7, 2012 12:16 pm GMT

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    There wasn't a decent soundtrack.

    That's what felt wrong about it to me, also some of the level design was awful.

    combat system wasn't anything special either.

    I liked it alot at first, but within the next few hours of playing I just couldn't shake how Meh it all felt.

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    Dec 7, 2012 12:14 pm GMT
    GD1551 wrote:
    You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.

    I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design.

    It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.

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    [QUOTE="GD1551"]You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.[/QUOTE] I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design. It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.
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  • GreekGameManiac
     
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    Dec 7, 2012 12:16 pm GMT

    Zeviander wrote:
    GD1551 wrote:
    You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.
    I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design. It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.

    Uh,no.

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    [QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="GD1551"]You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.[/QUOTE] I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design. It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.[/QUOTE]

    Uh,no.

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  • AcidSoldner
     
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    Zeviander wrote:
    GD1551 wrote:
    You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.

    I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design.

    It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.
    Funny, I've been playing Castlevania since Bloodlines and it felt very much like Castlevania to me.

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    [QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="GD1551"]You have to realize sir that most of these guys on here are fans of metroidvania, not the entire franchise. I can concede the point about the art, particularly enemies designs but really nothing else.[/QUOTE] I may not enjoy Lament of Innocence (my third favorite CV btw) or Harmony of Dissonance as much as Curse of Darkness or Symphony of the Night, but I don't think Lords of Shadow even remotely resembles either of the styles of "Castlevania" (Belmont or Castleroid) in terms of gameplay or art design. It's much like the DmC reboot. Similar only in name.[/QUOTE]Funny, I've been playing Castlevania since Bloodlines and it felt very much like Castlevania to me.
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    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.

    There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.

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    [QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.
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    GreekGameManiac wrote:

    freedomfreak wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.
    I can agree with that.

    All games do that.

    There's no such a thing as an "original game".




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    [QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] I can agree with that.[/QUOTE]

    All games do that.

    There's no such a thing as an "original game".

    [/QUOTE] Journey? Echoshift/Echochrome Unfinished Swan Flower Please i'd love for you to tell me how Nothing is original.
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    Zeviander wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.
    There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.

    so?

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    [QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.[/QUOTE]

    so?

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    AcidSoldner wrote:
    Funny, I've been playing Castlevania since Bloodlines and it felt very much like Castlevania to me.

    Then we just have different inklings as to what defines "Castlevania". Having a guy named Belmont run around with a whip isn't specific enough for me.

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    [QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Funny, I've been playing Castlevania since Bloodlines and it felt very much like Castlevania to me.[/QUOTE] Then we just have different inklings as to what defines "Castlevania". Having a guy named Belmont run around with a whip isn't specific enough for me.
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    Zeviander wrote:
    TheGuardian03 wrote:
    gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.

    There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.


    does this make it a bad game? nope it copied shadow of the colossus and it did it well and i enjoyed those battles.


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    [QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]gamespot main complaints about the game was it taking ideas from other games like god of war and shadow of the colossus, i don't see the problem its not forbidden for games to copy other games ideas.[/QUOTE] There is a difference between copying an element verbatim, and using it in a new, refreshing manner. The Ice Titan fight felt like it was ripped directly out of SOTC's "unfinished content". As if it was meant to be in that game and not LoS.[/QUOTE] does this make it a bad game? nope it copied shadow of the colossus and it did it well and i enjoyed those battles.
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    rilpas wrote:
    so?

    An "average" game copies.

    A "great" game refreshes.

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    [QUOTE="rilpas"]so?[/QUOTE] An "average" game copies. A "great" game refreshes.
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