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Israeli Airstrike in Gaza Kills Top Hamas Military Commander
- Nov 14, 2012 9:28 am GMT
[QUOTE="cslayer211"]It seems the drone/airstrike version of a counter-insurgency has been the most effective way to get rid of terrorists.[/QUOTE]
That is something of an oxymoron. COIN primarily involves a recognized government (in this case Israel, but since you made reference to bin Laden the US as well) trying to establish their authority over that of the insurgents, this is theoretically accomplished by containing the insurgency and then supplanting the insurgents authority.
Simply flying over and bombing a target doesn't accomplish this. Insurgents can still operate between bombings, killing a top commander is nice, but the insurgents in question will just martyr the target and move on. Since it is difficult to distinguish and insurgent from a member of the general populace, we run into situations where we end up bombing civilians, we diminish our own authority while giving legitimacy to the insurgents.
COIN calls for a large military force to enforce containment and by extension, casualties, drone strikes cannot do this.
The entire premise of COIN is suspect anyway, there is no example of it actually working on this large of a scale.
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:29 am GMTAnd likewise, dangamit, there will be Israeli people who will suffer by the actions of violence that will wish the same thing on Palestinian people. Remember: an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi.
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:29 am GMT[QUOTE="dangamit"][QUOTE="michaelP4"][QUOTE="dangamit"]
RIP. It's time for Hamas to retaliate.
[/QUOTE] How is that going to improve the situation though? Hamas retaliates, Israel retaliates and it will go on and on and on. Both sides must totally renounce the use of violence and commit themselves to resolving this peacefully and democratically. If they don't, there is no end to this conflict. I live in Northern Ireland, so I know what it is like living in a deeply divided society - the only way to move forward is for both sides to get talking to each other and compromising.[/QUOTE] It was an Israeli aggression. A truce was sponsored by Egypt and both sides agreed to it, but Israel was the one who violated it with such a cowardly act. Not only did they kill the Hamas leader, they also managed to kill 3 children so far in air strikes on civilian areas. I hope Israel will pay dearly for both killing those children and ruining my day [/QUOTE] ok the next step is having the IDF flatten Gaza for the second time in 4 years. I think you people need to reconsider your retaliation mentality.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 9:31 am GMT
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[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="pie-junior"]behind you nate silver
[/QUOTE] I see you are getting your orgasm already. This is gonna ruin an already post-apocalyptic Gaza...[/QUOTE] I'm saving your life gaza. Help me help you[/QUOTE] Like it was hard to figure that out by myself...- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 9:36 am GMT
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] I see you are getting your orgasm already. This is gonna ruin an already post-apocalyptic Gaza...[/QUOTE] I'm saving your life gaza. Help me help you[/QUOTE] Like it was hard to figure that out by myself...[/QUOTE] OT but where's your avatar from?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 9:41 am GMT[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] I see you are getting your orgasm already. This is gonna ruin an already post-apocalyptic Gaza...[/QUOTE] I'm saving your life gaza. Help me help you[/QUOTE] Like it was hard to figure that out by myself...[/QUOTE] and this is the thanks I get
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:44 am GMTI don't even.....justsayin117 wrote:Forge World is 5 maps combined into one, so technically, it doesnt countalfredooo wrote:You obviously haven't played on forge world... way bigger than anything on Killzone. But Killzone does look better than Reach.This is so unsurprising its tragic. Israel breaks the truce to assassinate a general. I wonder how they expect anyone to trust them under any circumstances. This beyond anything shows that Israel doesn't hold its word for crap.
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am GMT
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="pie-junior"] I'm saving your life gaza. Help me help you[/QUOTE] Like it was hard to figure that out by myself...[/QUOTE] OT but where's your avatar from?[/QUOTE] I have no idea to be honest.- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am GMT[QUOTE="mayceV"]This is so unsurprising its tragic. Israel breaks the truce to assassinate a general. I wonder how they expect anyone to trust them under any circumstances. This beyond anything shows that Israel doesn't hold its word for crap. [/QUOTE] You know Israeli officials kept parroting 'There is no cease fire' over and over through the course of the 'truce'?
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:49 am GMT[QUOTE="mayceV"]This is so unsurprising its tragic. Israel breaks the truce to assassinate a general. I wonder how they expect anyone to trust them under any circumstances. This beyond anything shows that Israel doesn't hold its word for crap. [/QUOTE] the truce was broken for over a week.
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- Nov 14, 2012 9:57 am GMT
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="GazaAli"] Like it was hard to figure that out by myself...[/QUOTE] OT but where's your avatar from?[/QUOTE] I have no idea to be honest.[/QUOTE] yoursig.jpg- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 10:01 am GMTI don't even.....justsayin117 wrote:Forge World is 5 maps combined into one, so technically, it doesnt countalfredooo wrote:You obviously haven't played on forge world... way bigger than anything on Killzone. But Killzone does look better than Reach.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="mayceV"]This is so unsurprising its tragic. Israel breaks the truce to assassinate a general. I wonder how they expect anyone to trust them under any circumstances. This beyond anything shows that Israel doesn't hold its word for crap. [/QUOTE] the truce was broken for over a week.[/QUOTE] I am referring to the one that was..supposedly, brokered by Egypt just yesterday. Reading over it again though it seems as though it wasn't fully official though.
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- Nov 14, 2012 10:08 am GMT[QUOTE="mayceV"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="mayceV"]This is so unsurprising its tragic. Israel breaks the truce to assassinate a general. I wonder how they expect anyone to trust them under any circumstances. This beyond anything shows that Israel doesn't hold its word for crap. [/QUOTE] the truce was broken for over a week.[/QUOTE] I am referring to the one that was..supposedly, brokered by Egypt just yesterday. Reading over it again though it seems as though it wasn't fully official though. [/QUOTE] I haven't heard about that one tbh, could be something wasn't agreed on. though even the previous ceasefire was more of a lessfire
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- Nov 14, 2012 10:18 am GMT
SNIPER4321 wrote:AussieePet wrote:SNIPER4321 wrote:AussieePet wrote:Are you calling me a barbie doll?barbie, dora, hello kitty, hanna montana or any other crap why it matter?
I assume you have all that inside your room
what? Im Hardcore PC gamer and cant put these casual/girly/animish/pink stuff.Just remember guys,they're the "Israeli Defence Force".
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- Nov 14, 2012 10:24 am GMT
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Hamas fired, like what 100+ rockets into Southern Israel and they expected no retaliation? Such a braindead move on their part. Hamas is still the main obstacle to Israeli-Palestinian peace. That's not to say that Israel isn't at fault either (they are also a big problem why this conflict is still ongoing) but when one says they are committed to the destruction of the other, how do you achieve peace then?- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 10:30 am GMT
[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]Hamas fired, like what 100+ rockets into Southern Israel[/QUOTE]
IIRC, it was a 100 in a single day.
That's pretty fvcking impressive, all considering.
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- Nov 14, 2012 11:04 am GMT
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- Nov 14, 2012 11:11 am GMT
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]Borukh Hashem! [/QUOTE]- Please wait. Quick reply will be available shortly.
- Nov 14, 2012 11:19 am GMT
[QUOTE="michaelP4"]And likewise, dangamit, there will be Israeli people who will suffer by the actions of violence that will wish the same thing on Palestinian people. Remember: an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi.[/QUOTE] Palestine belongs to the Arabs - Ghandi
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